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The Blue Flower

(5,444 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:34 AM Jul 2020

Ban on exportation of silencers, meant to protect our troops, is lifted by il drumpf

The Trump administration lifted a ban on sales of silencers to private overseas buyers that was intended to protect U.S. troops from ambushes. The change was championed by a lawyer for the president who had worked for a firearms trade group.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/trump-gun-silencer-exports.html

But try as he might, he could not achieve one of the industry’s main goals: overturning a ban on sales to private foreign buyers enacted by the State Department to protect American troops in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Then Mr. Williams joined the Trump administration.

As a White House lawyer, he pushed to overturn the prohibition, raising the issue with influential administration officials and creating pressure within the State Department, according to current and former government officials. On Friday, the State Department lifted the ban, and a longtime industry goal was realized. The change paved the way for as much as $250 million a year in possible new overseas sales for companies that Mr. Williams had championed as general counsel of the American Suppressor Association. His role in pushing to lift the ban, which has not been previously reported, follows a well-established pattern in the Trump administration, with the president handing over policymaking to allies of special interest groups with a stake in those policies. And in this case, Mr. Williams’s victory comes for a key constituency as President Trump seeks re-election.

Mr. Trump’s cabinet includes a former coal lobbyist as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, a former lobbyist for the defense contractor Raytheon Technologies as Defense Secretary, a lobbyist for the auto industry at the helm of the Energy Department and a former oil and gas lobbyist as Interior Secretary. Those industries have been sources of funds for Mr. Trump’s campaign and committees supporting it. Mr. Williams’s work, though lower-profile, has nevertheless been a boon to another crucial political constituency: the gun lobby, which plays a leading role in Republican get-out-the-vote efforts and views eliminating silencer restrictions as an emerging issue. It’s a subject that has been embraced by the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. — an ally of Mr. Williams’s former trade group — as well as by other powerful gun industry groups.




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Ban on exportation of silencers, meant to protect our troops, is lifted by il drumpf (Original Post) The Blue Flower Jul 2020 OP
That'll help with earning bounties, I'm sure. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #1
Oh good. This will make it easier for the Taliban to collect those $100k bounties on our dead soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
The draft-dodging Republican Golfer-in-Chief is further endangering our troops Champp Jul 2020 #3
Bookmarking for later. Newest Reality Jul 2020 #4
trump sucking off the radical 2nd Amendment types, as usual. Paladin Jul 2020 #5
Just anything the dickhead can do.. Maxheader Jul 2020 #6
I came to the conclussion that he is trying to take down America, pazzyanne Jul 2020 #9
I remember reading some time ago that IdiotJr. was lobbying for this. Tanuki Jul 2020 #7
This should be on every TV news outlet. KS Toronado Jul 2020 #8
he's a murderous fuck. barbtries Jul 2020 #10
I am not a pro gun person at all but the ban made very little sense in my opinion simply because cstanleytech Jul 2020 #11
It's just a metal tube with baffles in it madville Jul 2020 #18
The "commander in chief" hates our troops. From bounties on their heads to silencers. George II Jul 2020 #12
They shouldn't be allowed to sell silencers to the general public in this country, patphil Jul 2020 #13
They are required at many target shooting ranges in Europe madville Jul 2020 #19
most other countries don't regulate them like we do Amishman Jul 2020 #23
That's because our politicians gain most of their firearms knowledge madville Jul 2020 #24
So that is why he had Krissy Noem ride on Air Force One to DC... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2020 #14
As instructions and parts are available on the internet, a bad guy will most likely make his own Kaleva Jul 2020 #16
A reason why the top snipers in history didn't use silencers was that they served no purpose. Kaleva Jul 2020 #15
Trump must be earning commission BGBD Jul 2020 #17
Some European countries require suppressors madville Jul 2020 #20
It appears that the EU has relaxed it's regulations on sound suppressors Kaleva Jul 2020 #21
China, Russia and several European companies make suppressors. hack89 Jul 2020 #22

Champp

(2,114 posts)
3. The draft-dodging Republican Golfer-in-Chief is further endangering our troops
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:42 AM
Jul 2020

Shame on the Republicans. Eternal shame.

Paladin

(28,271 posts)
5. trump sucking off the radical 2nd Amendment types, as usual.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:12 AM
Jul 2020

They're still coming in his mouth, but the silencers will make it less obvious.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
9. I came to the conclussion that he is trying to take down America,
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:34 AM
Jul 2020

and he is making sure he is making profit from all his efforts.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
7. I remember reading some time ago that IdiotJr. was lobbying for this.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jul 2020

I wonder if we will ever find out how much money changed hands, either directly or through yet another laundering scene, to make this happen.

KS Toronado

(17,313 posts)
8. This should be on every TV news outlet.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:57 AM
Jul 2020

But will probably get buried because of all the other stupid things trumpig says/does.

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
10. he's a murderous fuck.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jul 2020

#TrumpGenocide #CrimesAgainstHumanity

every day more damage, more cruelty, more suffering and death

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
11. I am not a pro gun person at all but the ban made very little sense in my opinion simply because
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

people can build themselves if they have access to certain materials.

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. It's just a metal tube with baffles in it
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jul 2020

Can be made with simple machining skills.

Hollywood crafted most people’s knowledge and opinions on “silencers” (which should actually be referred to as suppressors).

patphil

(6,204 posts)
13. They shouldn't be allowed to sell silencers to the general public in this country,
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jul 2020

let alone to foreign countries.
I can't see any legitimate use for one outside of the military.

madville

(7,412 posts)
19. They are required at many target shooting ranges in Europe
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jul 2020

In order to limit noise pollution. In some European countries it’s illegal to NOT use a suppressor.

madville

(7,412 posts)
24. That's because our politicians gain most of their firearms knowledge
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020

From the movies, the reputation of “silencers” being utilized by criminals and hitmen is mostly a Hollywood creation.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
14. So that is why he had Krissy Noem ride on Air Force One to DC...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jul 2020

... there is a gun/muzzle silencer business in Sioux Falls. Their office/shop is on a major thoroughfare I take into Sioux Falls, so I can't miss it.

"From Silencer Central



"Silencer Central makes it simple to own a silencer. We do all the work for you, including managing your ATF paperwork, providing you with a FREE NFA Gun Trust and an interest-free eZ-Pay payment plan. We also ship your silencer directly to your front..."

[link:https://www.silencercentral.com/|

They say it takes away, "some of the bark and recoil, so it is great for woman shooters". Billboards ads with an attractive lady are seen in high traffic areas, too.

on edit: The company recently changed their name from Dakota Silencer to Silencer Central. I post this after reading about Don Jr lobbying for these devices.

Kaleva

(36,333 posts)
16. As instructions and parts are available on the internet, a bad guy will most likely make his own
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jul 2020

No paper trail if one makes their own.

Kaleva

(36,333 posts)
15. A reason why the top snipers in history didn't use silencers was that they served no purpose.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

Simo Hayha, Fyodor Okhlopkov, Francis Pegahmagabow, Ivan Sidorenko, Christopher Kyle, Vasili Zaitsev, and Adelbert Waldron combined killed many hundreds without the use of a silencer.

madville

(7,412 posts)
20. Some European countries require suppressors
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jul 2020

To be used at shooting ranges in order to reduce noise pollution. That’s probably most of the export market.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. China, Russia and several European companies make suppressors.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020

they are easy to buy in Europe as they are considered mandatory safety equipment in some countries.

I don't think our enemies have any problems getting all the suppressors they want.

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