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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHours after calling coronavirus a hoax, Chuck Woolery's son tests positive for it.
I do not wish this horrible virus on anyone--friend or foe.
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jayfish
(10,039 posts)No one would believe it.
hlthe2b
(102,419 posts)So, how does he explain his comments from the day before?
Afromania
(2,771 posts)agingdem
(7,865 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 14, 2020, 09:55 PM - Edit history (1)
their 15 year old daughter gets pregnant and then they go all pro-choice...
their son comes out of the closet and suddenly they love gays..
their daughter/son is in a relationship with a person of color and then they go all Kumbaya...damn hypocrites ..all of them
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)You know those who demonize us into hate-filled monsters can't understand us, can't understand their world or their issues, can't even understand right and wrong. It goes the other way too.
agingdem
(7,865 posts)what I do understand is they look at the world thru the lens of self-righteous hate...until the real world collides with their world and then there's a shift...not a big one but a shift none the less..abortion is murder until...gay is the work of the devil until...mixed marriage is an abomination until..think Dick Cheney and his older daughter...a shift...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of self-righteous hate, of course I'd choose LW also. The Cheneys certainly do their part to make it a pleasant pastime for me as well.
But while we have practical decisions to make in this world, I feel like we should also try for good judgement. And definitely leave the demonizing and evil that comes of it to those on the right. We'll never be nearly as good at it as them anyway, so why compete in their arena instead of on our strengths? Plus, so many are genuinely awful, I really feel it does an injustice to their victims to insist that's not enough.
agingdem
(7,865 posts)doesn't apply in a trumpian world...fighting hate with facts has zero impact until they are affected or infected and then it's omg the sky is falling..we have to stop being nice ...we have to stop dissecting their hate and trying to understand it...no more sympathy or empathy only apathy when they find themselves sucking air through a ventilator...they have to know their depraved narcissistic debauched "hero" did this to them...and maybe then, but I doubt it, they can relate to us instead of the reverse
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)more like the right. They measure these things, you know. Also that increased meanness among individuals is a big danger sign of possible takeover by very, very mean governments.
You don't fight mean fire by tossing meanness on it but by dousing it with decency.
With age, I've come to realize there's not just potential of great evil in people but also such things as common decency and common wisdom in peoples. I believe that's how, at this particular point in history, we've come to choose someone generally seen as a nice and decent person as our presumptive nominee. A collective awareness that we need to recommit to decency and responsibility, to pull back from the brink that meanness growing out of control is bringing us far too close to.
agingdem
(7,865 posts)recommit to decency and responsibility after Trump is evicted from the White House...at this juncture it's fire with fire...so far Biden has stayed above the fray...you don't murder someone (Trump) while they're committing suicide... and for once we Dems are doing the unfamiliar...we are wading into the muck so Biden doesn't have to...common decency is something that will have to wait a little while longer
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)meanness and what's potentially at stake.
I believe, for instance, that the Republican leadership intentionally let pandemic disease sweep this nation for purposes of their own. Actually, we know they did and are still at it. Also that the residual Republican voters are unconditionally supporting what their leaders do, becoming mean to the point of great depravity.
What we don't know, btw, is what they hoped to gain. Sure, Covid-19 is removing a lot of people retired and/or disabled from the entitlement rolls, presumably providing a bit of an excuse for future slices deep into their funding as they work to do away with them altogether.
But what else? They absolutely intended to keep and grow power, and around the planet other corrupt, ruthless authoritarians have always manipulated big disasters to consolidate power. Was that part of it and is it backfiring on them? Their ruthlessness in pursuing goals carries them a good way, but overall they've never been among even our more competent leaders. It's easy to imagine the answers, presuming we win and eventually get them, will reveal both shocking depravity and jaw-dropping stupidity.
Whatever, their voters have become so mean they're all in with jettisoning democracy and cancelling a century of equal rights advances for RW white male authoritarian rule.
Sure, go ahead and call for sharper political ads. Maybe we can adopt the Republicans' signature snide, sneering tone. But when political scientists say our entire nation has become measurably and provably dangerously "meaner" and less principled, they're not talking about just sounding meaner.
agingdem
(7,865 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)
I've lived through too much to be generous...I'm the child of Holocaust survivors..hate up close and personal..my mother taught me numbers using the tattoo branded on her forearm...Father Coughlin, Joe McCarthy, the Mississippi Burning murders, the LA riots, the Kent State massacre, the James Byrd lynching, Charlottesville, George Floyd, Lafayette Park, and on an on...Trump isn't a phenomenon..he is a culmination...so you're right..my definition of civility and honor is different from yours...I'm 72...my time is running out...I can no longer afford to be generous...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)What matters is that it's reflected in those we the people choose to act for us. We kept well on the right side of the line of wisdom and decency with Obama, with Hillary, and now with Biden, who's running to save the soul of America as he puts it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)As for "karma," will it still be karma if his son just has a cold, the way Woollery and his sort are claiming all do instead of just a good percentage? Or no symptoms at all the way science is claiming for close to 40% who get it?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Nature Man
(869 posts)MLAA
(17,340 posts)Nevilledog
(51,219 posts)Zoonart
(11,887 posts)I hope his son recovers completely.
Nevilledog
(51,219 posts)A COVID-19 timeout, if you will, to think about life.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)"clarify" and "add perspective"?
What is clarified is that you are fucking stooge for the turd. Yes, we can see clearly now, thanks to the "perspective".
Idiot.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)The PERFECT response to such stupidity!
Srkdqltr
(6,341 posts)It's an outrageous lie and it's real in 2 days? I'm sorry for the son but Chuck you are a fool.
Sanity Claws
(21,860 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)malaise
(269,219 posts)Fuck Chucl - I have sympathy for his son since he didn't select his father.
Nevilledog
(51,219 posts)Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)Good luck, son
Sure dont see whats been clarified here, but hey
frazzled
(18,402 posts)The term clarify and the concept of adding perspective. This post neither clarifies nor adds perspective to the first one. It is a full contradiction of the original.
Im glad people are flexible enough to change perspectives. Sorry for him that it had to happen in this way.
Sneederbunk
(14,314 posts)vishnura
(247 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,343 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)I dont wish suffering on anyone.
Some of these people will not believe reality until they actually must live the reality themselves unfortunately. They lack empathy. Then, they want understanding from the very ones they sought to discredit by making their attention seeking comments.
Chuck has spoken out many times adding to the absurdity that is the conspiracy theories. We need to stay focused on facts.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)I believe in an accident. I think I read that he was 16 at the time.
Phoenix61
(17,021 posts)Some peoples hearts break and some peoples hearts break wide open. I think Bidens heart broke wide open.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)People who have lost a child are normally very sensitive to that kind of a loss. So hard to imagine wanting to expose our children to this horror.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,912 posts)Or is Woolery going to go out there and state very clearly that it's NOT a hoax and everyone needs to mask up and social distance?
I find it impossible to have any sympathy whatsoever for people like him. I'm just sorry it's his son and not him who's gotten it. Well, maybe he'll still get it himself.
czarjak
(11,301 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,341 posts)I looked at the post... My eyes are still watering. The man needs something else to do.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,732 posts)WHAT?!?!? You replied with the exact opposite sentiment of your original tweet! That's not "clarifying" anything.
Baitball Blogger
(46,769 posts)Preface the comment with "I do not wish this horrible virus on anyone--friend or foe."
Second, we really don't have time to wait for Republicans to get up to speed this way, one asshole at a time.
Hav
(5,969 posts)Now even his son is part of it. Blessed be Soros and Alinsky.
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Shermann
(7,455 posts)Updated liars list:
- The CDC
- The Media
- Democrats
- Our Doctors
- Chuck Woolery
JI7
(89,279 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)spanone
(135,900 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)possibility.
Or in fact is Woolery himself lying when he tweets his son has it and now he said Covid19 is real?
By his own terms old man woolery is likely lying now about his son being sick
ecstatic
(32,745 posts)hits home. So sick of them!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ilsa
(61,705 posts)Some day it will be the anthropology of our current political situation.
It's also a great example of "that didn't age well."
peggysue2
(10,844 posts)She has a way of making herself known!
RandiFan1290
(6,256 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)we don't know at what point his son tested positive, it could have been days before the first tweet
yet the header says the test was hours after the first tweet without any proof
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Deb
(3,742 posts)I wonder if Woolery already knew his son had the symptoms before tweeting that bullsh*t.
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)He was probably getting flack for his post. He then had to admit that some people actually suffer and then says, "Well my son tested positive" (he doesn't say when...kinda like when racists say, "I have a black friend".)
His second tweet is damage repair.
One of our state supreme court justices tested positive.
Two days later, she turns around and votes against expanded mail voting.
Champp
(2,114 posts)Maybe someday they will respect science. Maybe.
Apollo Zeus
(251 posts)So I don't excuse that but I would note that the pandemic has pushed many people into a state of grieving -- grieving for the loss of their illusions of safety, normalcy, etc.
Like other grief, this one takes 5 forms: Denial, anger, sadness, bargaining and acceptance.
I wish his son the best.
Music Man
(1,184 posts)Not until things affect them personally do they seem to get it.
Mad_Dem_X
(9,572 posts)Mad_Dem_X
(9,572 posts)When someone they care about is affected.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I have the same amount of compassion for them as I do for the "bullet-motorcycle" idiots who zoom around the DC Beltway at 150 miles-per-hour... passing on the left shoulder... or splitting the lane and riding on the line BETWEEN cars... WITHOUT A HELMET. They're asking for death. It's just my only hope that they find what they're seeking without hurting anyone else in the process.
HAB911
(8,922 posts)lame54
(35,330 posts)HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)there may be yet another Tweet.