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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is no longer about politics or ideology.
That's the realization that suddenly hit me, like the proverbial ton of bricks, a little while ago while watching Rachel Maddow interview Mary Trump. This is no longer about politics, or ideology, or right vs. left. This is now about common decency, and common sense, and mere SANITY. If we had a Democratic president who was this irresponsible, this incompetent, this corrupt, this slimy, this arrogant, this vindictive, this megalomaniacal, I would be just as appalled and just as determined to get the SOB out of office. But, Democrats never would have a president like this. Democrats never would tolerate it. In fact, if this corrupt orange con man had been a Democrat, the Democrats in the House and Senate would have been leading the charge to impeach him. And he would have been convicted in the Senate and removed from office.
-- Ron
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)SunSeeker
(51,749 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,027 posts)party and the bizarre cult that worships him.
Skittles
(153,226 posts)he would probably already be removed
onetexan
(13,072 posts)if this Idiot somehow rigs the election to stay in power again Dems can get him convicted and kick him out of office. That said, my preference would be that Biden wins the presidency, & Dems have control of both House & Senate. It will take the trifecta to undo the damage this horrible administration has inflicted on the country.
Karadeniz
(22,599 posts)Jeebo
(2,028 posts)Every time I hear one of those polls that says Biden is way ahead, let's say, 51% to 40%, my reaction is never, wow, that's great, Biden is pulling away! My reaction is always, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG with that 40%?!?! What does it say about this country that so many people are THAT BATSHIT CRAZY?
-- Ron
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)is probably true. That's why Putin latched onto him. Perfect tool for the job.
BigmanPigman
(51,643 posts)Tillerson was only half right. tRump is a fucking moron but he also is a fucking sadist.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)would be calling for their removal.
The republican party is dead. (it is now Trump's party)
They are the minority.
They control this country when they are the majority.
They control this country when they are the minority. (the Obama presidency)
They use religion to accomplish this.
They use abortion to accomplish this.
They use cheating, lies, misinformation and the airways to accomplish this.
They use corporations to accomplish this. (lower or no taxes)
They use voter suppression to accomplish this.
They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced.
They have taken it one step further.
They are now killing us with their lack of action. (covid-19)
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)People vote based on ideology. That's why I use that category to wager and really don't care about anything else. The percentages don't shift much at all. Every cycle roughly 10-11% of liberals vote for the Republican, and roughly 15-16% of conservatives vote for the Democrat.
The only two statewide wagers I have ever lost in presidential years were Indiana and North Carolina in 2008. I wagered on McCain to win both states based on ideology varying from the polling and the odds. I really thought there was very little chance Obama would carry those states. But he did so very narrowly, partially because 20% of conservatives voted for Obama that year.
Notice that Indiana and North Carolina both reverted to their past tendencies. The ideology was more significant than the 2008 result. I will always say that Obama winning North Carolina in 2008 was one of the worst things that ever happened to Hillary 2016. Complete waste of time and resources.
In 2020 I do not believe 20% of conservatives will vote for Biden. He is not nearly as dynamic as Obama. The country is more polarized than 2008. No matter what the polling indicates now, I think it will be the typical range of 15-16%.
Maybe we can get below 10% for a change in terms of liberals who vote GOP. But I doubt it. By far the best way to approach this stuff is to ignore the noise and the hype and simply assign the typical number.
If Biden wins big it will be due to swing moderates. They do exist. They dictate outcomes.
Jeebo
(2,028 posts)They're something else, I don't know what to call them. Nuts. Insane. Delusional. They are by definition not liberals.
-- Ron
KT2000
(20,594 posts)then she said "this is who we are" and that is how we are regarded around the world. This low level, anti-science, worship of ignorance will turn us into a "shithole country."
canetoad
(17,200 posts)That made his presidency possible. Similar faults that make it nearly impossible to get rid of him.