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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:16 PM Jul 2020

I don't get the "go to school" messaging from the WH, "because you might abuse your kids" in secret?

Note this clip from:

Politico

Trump warns of 'greater mortality' if schools don't reopen

The CDC warned Thursday that outbreaks at a particular school could force parents to keep their child at home for a two-week quarantine.

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Trump on Thursday called teachers "essential workers," cautioning that keeping schools closed will lead to greater learning loss for Black and Hispanic children, that more students will go hungry, and that more sexual and physical abuse will go unreported.


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Bold is mine and quote marks denote my re-wording.
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I don't get the "go to school" messaging from the WH, "because you might abuse your kids" in secret? (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 OP
Lots of CPS reports come from schools. Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #1
I know that. But I don't get why that would help get kids back in school safely. nt JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #3
I think he was saying Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #4
Trump's "twisted mind" explains just about everything today. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #6
True. jimfields33 Jul 2020 #11
Since it will be everybody, I think they'll be fine Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #12
That's very true. jimfields33 Jul 2020 #13
This. They're all in this situation together and can make up the time together. crickets Jul 2020 #17
Exactly! Some may actually benefit from the Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #18
This would be my solution as well. Virginia is doing its absolute best to deal with this virus Nay Jul 2020 #15
fully funded daycare for working parents - yes! crickets Jul 2020 #20
True, but not that he is capable of caring. Hortensis Jul 2020 #2
Just seems a bit insulting to the "suburban housewives" he is trying to get support from. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #5
For sure. He's reading a teleprompter and on most items mostly Hortensis Jul 2020 #8
True. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #9
Projection. Salviati Jul 2020 #7
Good point... JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #10
A two-week quarantine for students at a school with an outbreak? no_hypocrisy Jul 2020 #14
It's hilarious, isn't it? Don't people realize that the parents of the sick kids will be Nay Jul 2020 #16
Says the Abuser-in-Chief dalton99a Jul 2020 #19
This is pure government propaganda to get the parents to think it is to 'protect the children'. KWR65 Jul 2020 #21

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
1. Lots of CPS reports come from schools.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jul 2020

Teachers/admin are mandatory reporters. Fewer reports in the summer but part of that is due to less conflict over school grades/homework getting up in the morning etc

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
4. I think he was saying
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jul 2020

kids will get sick if they go to school but a lot will be abused if they are not in school. The one off sets the other, in his twisted mind.

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
6. Trump's "twisted mind" explains just about everything today.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jul 2020

Also, just heard that a nine-year-old girl died from the virus in FL tonight.

(tears)

jimfields33

(15,842 posts)
11. True.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jul 2020

The one question that must be asked is if it’s worth repeating the grade the students were in when this started especially the kindergarten through eighth graders. It will be fascinating how they will deal with this.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
12. Since it will be everybody, I think they'll be fine
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:40 AM
Jul 2020

No ones “failed”. They’ll be with their same friends.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
17. This. They're all in this situation together and can make up the time together.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jul 2020

If schooling is delayed for a year because of this, it might require a shift in gears to deal with being a year behind where they might have been otherwise, but at least they'd be alive. And it's not just one grade - all grades will be moving along together as a bloc. It might be logistically interesting for schools to deal with that given the students coming along behind them, but the actual number of students would not really change enough to be considered impossible.

Let's face it, graduating a year later than you thought you would sure beats dying.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
18. Exactly! Some may actually benefit from the
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jul 2020

added year. Emotional maturity seems to come with time on planet earth. Play so much of what happens in schools is pure busy work. I AM NOT slamming the teachers. They are frustrated with crap curriculums pushed by money hungry text book manufacturers and incompetent school boards who refuse to keep up with the science of how people learn.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
15. This would be my solution as well. Virginia is doing its absolute best to deal with this virus
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:24 AM
Jul 2020

and did the sensible thing months ago by shutting down, ramping up substitute classes on Google Classroom, etc. The kids all got Chromebooks at the beginning of the year, as the school system thinks this is the future (I've seen that the majority of kids don't learn jacksh*t on a computer, but that's a discussion for another time). So at least they had a medium through which kids could theoretically learn at home.

The object in VA is obviously to keep kids from forgetting all they learned during the year. School has continued through the summer. Now, a month away from the new school year, they announced that at least the first 9 weeks of the new school year will be at home OR part-time at school, parents' choice. With the new virus spikes, I fully expect the schools to revise their ruling and not reopen this fall. I do think it's a mistake to start a new school year. They should not have school and, next year, have everyone repeat the grade.

What do you do about the kids whose parents are both forced back to work? I don't know. Personally, this country should long ago have had fully funded daycare for working parents (a la France), but this country has always been a horror show in that respect.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
20. fully funded daycare for working parents - yes!
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jul 2020

This is a concept whose time has come in the US. Actually, we're way behind the curve on this but COVID is laying bare all the many ways the US citizenry has been left behind as a society. Wake up calls everywhere.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. True, but not that he is capable of caring.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jul 2020

It's about getting the parents to work, creating profits, keeping the economy from major depression.

It's terribly tragic, though, that keeping some kids out of sight at home means dreadful abuse will remain hidden that would otherwise have been discovered. Education and medical professionals are trained to scrutinize children for indications, and required by law to act on them.

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
5. Just seems a bit insulting to the "suburban housewives" he is trying to get support from.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jul 2020

Like saying "you are wrong about keeping your kids safe at home, because you might abuse them."

Seems like an odd way to get support for getting the kids back to school, or for winning votes. And I tend to think that with Trump, it's about the votes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. For sure. He's reading a teleprompter and on most items mostly
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jul 2020

neither knows nor cares what he's saying, though. Maybe he is pleased by a lack of specificity that allows him to insult many; we certainly know he's cruel and has no respect for others.

But the grave problem of abused children and the horrors that take place behind closed doors should be mentioned, even if it was only slipped in, and I'm sure many of those "suburban housewives" would be happy to shoulder the insults as long as it was.

no_hypocrisy

(46,133 posts)
14. A two-week quarantine for students at a school with an outbreak?
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 05:56 AM
Jul 2020

I'm a teacher and is he kidding? Kids are sent to school on a regular basis when they're coughing and sneezing and have anything from a cold to pneumonia, let alone Covid.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
16. It's hilarious, isn't it? Don't people realize that the parents of the sick kids will be
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:40 AM
Jul 2020

FIRED from their jobs for staying home with a sick child that long? Parents are desperate. They will give their kids some Tylenol and send them in. This country will make both parents scramble 24 hours a day to pay their bills, and then these clueless authorities think they can take two weeks off? No wonder everybody in the country is becoming mentally ill from all this bullshit.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
21. This is pure government propaganda to get the parents to think it is to 'protect the children'.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jul 2020

The government constantly creates propaganda that is to 'protect the children'.

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