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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:04 AM Jul 2020

GOP Relief Package to Include Romney Bill That Would 'Fast-Track SS & Medicare cuts

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"They will use every opportunity and every crisis—including the mass death and economic carnage from Covid—as cover for their sick desire to destroy our Social Security system."

byJake Johnson, staff writer


Shortly after publicly ditching one attack on Social Security—the payroll tax cut—Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell confirmed Thursday that the Republican coronavirus relief package will include legislation sponsored by Sen. Mitt Romney that one advocacy group described as an "equally menacing" threat to the New Deal program.

In a speech on the Senate floor, McConnell touted Romney's TRUST ACT as "a bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by Senate Democrats, to help a future Congress evaluate bipartisan proposals for protecting and strengthening the programs that Americans count on."

"In the midst of a catastrophic pandemic, they should be focused on protecting seniors, essential workers, and the unemployed. Instead, they are plotting to use the cover of the pandemic to slash Social Security."
—Nancy Altman, Social Security Works
Ostensibly an effort to "rescue" America's trust fund programs, Romney's bill—first introduced last October with the backing of three Democratic senators—would initiate a secretive process that could result in cuts to Social Security and Medicare benefits, a longtime objective of lawmakers like the Utah Republican.

Romney celebrated the inclusion of his bill Thursday and pointed to statements praising the legislation from a slew of right-wing advocacy groups, including the Koch-funded organization Americans for Prosperity.

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GOP Relief Package to Include Romney Bill That Would 'Fast-Track SS & Medicare cuts (Original Post) G_j Jul 2020 OP
Fuck him malaise Jul 2020 #1
Not a friend G_j Jul 2020 #2
Mr. 47% malaise Jul 2020 #3
Sideways. With a chain saw. Glorfindel Jul 2020 #4
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Jul 2020 #20
This is why I didn't praise him during impeachment or anytime he bad mouths trump jimfields33 Jul 2020 #6
He did the bare minimum required by the Constitution, and that's it . . hatrack Jul 2020 #11
Funny. Kingofalldems Jul 2020 #36
My significant other thinks so too. Hint hint!!!! jimfields33 Jul 2020 #38
So much for any TRUST in Romney. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #5
The Repubs never-ending assault on the social safety net continues...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #7
It must be in their DNA Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #28
That is the worker's money . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #8
Who are those 3 Democrats? Trailrider1951 Jul 2020 #9
Sinema has no excuse JonLP24 Jul 2020 #18
A reminder of what "reasonable" conservatives do. JHB Jul 2020 #10
You want to save SS? Simple: lift the cap on earnings subject on the SS tax. stopbush Jul 2020 #12
Well, if you lift the cap you have to increase their payments. nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #16
No you don't. That's a specious argument. stopbush Jul 2020 #23
They should get increased payments if they pay more in, unless you want means testing! nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #25
If that's the case, then anyone who dies before they qualify to receive SS stopbush Jul 2020 #27
Nope! Different topic all together. nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #30
Nope. Same benefits, same ball of wax. stopbush Jul 2020 #32
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #33
Right mvd Jul 2020 #40
Then introduce a rule saying that the Trust Fund can NEVER be used to borrow tax cuts for those... WyattKansas Jul 2020 #39
No you don't. Voltaire2 Jul 2020 #42
Yes, that is the easy answer Trailrider1951 Jul 2020 #17
The Rs include these ridiculous, DOA poison pills as bargaining chips. stopbush Jul 2020 #13
Stealing from the poor to make the rich richer dalton99a Jul 2020 #14
This really scares JonLP24 Jul 2020 #15
Oh well. I guess the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy - nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #19
Does DU have enough activists to make their voices heard regarding this? Little ole me contacted Ninga Jul 2020 #21
I wonder how much they've saved in payouts due to the deaths of SS Covid victims? Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #22
Mitt is still a Shit after all these years... abqtommy Jul 2020 #24
Fuck these fucks ... GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #26
this is one of their key ling term objectives SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #29
Surely Pelosi and the House won't go along with this. ananda Jul 2020 #31
Even some of my Trumper high school friends have made it clear that you don't screw with their SS. Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #34
So, when are we going to address the automatic cut in Social Security of 23% that will occur Hoyt Jul 2020 #35
I'm not happy three Democratic senators joined him. This is why we can't get ahead. Hotler Jul 2020 #37
That's why Romney is no hero mvd Jul 2020 #41

jimfields33

(15,842 posts)
6. This is why I didn't praise him during impeachment or anytime he bad mouths trump
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jul 2020

At the end of the day, he’s bad news politically. Same reason I don’t praise the Lincoln group. They will stab us in the back for sure sooner then later. I won’t badmouth them but I don’t get giddy about them.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
11. He did the bare minimum required by the Constitution, and that's it . .
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020

Fuck Mitt, fuck Mitch, fuck Republicans.

jimfields33

(15,842 posts)
38. My significant other thinks so too. Hint hint!!!!
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jul 2020

Just putting it out there for transparency that I’m happily taken.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
9. Who are those 3 Democrats?
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:16 AM
Jul 2020

Here they are:

Joe Manchin (D-WV): “I have always said that our national budget should reflect our values and priorities, but be fiscally responsible,” Senator Manchin said. “Unfortunately our fiscal irresponsibility has left critical programs like Social Security and Medicare heading towards insolvency. Congress cannot let these programs fail. That’s why I’m proud to join my colleagues on this bipartisan bill to proactively help to secure sustainable funding for programs like these before it’s too late.”

Doug Jones (D-AL): “This important legislation creates a bipartisan path forward that gives us the tools to we need to put our budget on the path to fiscal responsibility and upgrade our decaying infrastructure, protect pensions and Social Security benefits for retirees, and ensure that Medicare remains strong for seniors for generations to come,” Senator Jones said.

Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ): No quote available.

Also, in the House of Representatives: "U.S. Representatives Mike Gallagher (R-WI), Ed Case (D-HI), William Timmons (R-SC), and Ben McAdams (D-UT) have introduced companion legislation in the House of Representatives."

Source: https://www.romney.senate.gov/romney-leads-bipartisan-bicameral-legislation-protect-taxpayers-trust-funds

WTF?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
18. Sinema has no excuse
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:34 AM
Jul 2020

Kelly & Biden is likely to win the state she doesn't have to be a Joe Manchin. We are not West Virginia.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
10. A reminder of what "reasonable" conservatives do.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jul 2020

None of these people got elected to cut Social Security. None of these people got elected to wreck the post office.

But they do it anyway.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
12. You want to save SS? Simple: lift the cap on earnings subject on the SS tax.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jul 2020

Bingo! SS is solvent in perpetuity.

Want to cut the costs of Medicare? Get rid of the R rule that says the government can’t negotiate prices on prescription drugs. Voila! Lower prices by at least 50%.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
23. No you don't. That's a specious argument.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

The argument goes that if you lift the cap, then the wealthy should be paid more per month because they “never get back what they paid in.”

So what? You know who else never gets back what they paid in? People who die before reaching retirement age. People who die within a year or two of retiring.

No one “has to do” anything.

BTW - statistically, the rich are in better health than the general populace, live longer and draw more $ out of the SS system than does the average American.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
27. If that's the case, then anyone who dies before they qualify to receive SS
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

should get a full refund from the government for the $ they paid into the system over their lifetime, paid to their heirs.

mvd

(65,175 posts)
40. Right
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jul 2020

It is just like progressive taxation to me. The rich certainly aren’t hurting at all and can pay some more in.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
39. Then introduce a rule saying that the Trust Fund can NEVER be used to borrow tax cuts for those...
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jul 2020

Above the cap and activate a claw back for unpaid IOUs for previous tax cuts borrowed for those above the cap.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
17. Yes, that is the easy answer
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jul 2020

I makes so much sense that the Repubs will never support it. I would like to see the cap on earnings raised to $1 million. And ditto on the prescription drug prices. That was just Shrub's give-away to Big Pharma. There is NO reason in the world why Americans pay the highest drug prices in the world.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
13. The Rs include these ridiculous, DOA poison pills as bargaining chips.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jul 2020

“Ok, the Romney clause is out, as long as you agree to cut the weekly UI benefit from $600 to $100.”

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
21. Does DU have enough activists to make their voices heard regarding this? Little ole me contacted
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jul 2020

her Senators. It would be really something if every member here did the same.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
22. I wonder how much they've saved in payouts due to the deaths of SS Covid victims?
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jul 2020

Those would no longer be paid out.

Also, the savings on Medicare and future payouts.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
29. this is one of their key ling term objectives
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jul 2020

that plus the massive tax cut would justify the Trump presidency in their minds.

thankfully we have the House.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
34. Even some of my Trumper high school friends have made it clear that you don't screw with their SS.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jul 2020

This won't go well for the GOP if they do that.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. So, when are we going to address the automatic cut in Social Security of 23% that will occur
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

around 2030, perhaps sooner because of CV19?

We keep kicking the can down the road, because no one has the guts to address it. Obama tried, and was bashed.

Hotler

(11,428 posts)
37. I'm not happy three Democratic senators joined him. This is why we can't get ahead.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

No solidarity.

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