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Nevilledog

(51,137 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:12 PM Jul 2020

Do Americans Get That Trump is Instituting Martial Law?

https://eand.co/do-americans-get-that-trump-is-instituting-martial-law-86362b107b1c

Yesterday, the Mayor of Portland was gassed by the secret police of storm troopers that Donald Trump has sent to occupy the city.

Wait. What? Let’s read that sentence again.

Yesterday, the Mayor of Portland was gassed by the secret police of storm troopers that Donald Trump has sent to occupy the city.

If I wrote that sentence five years ago, you would have laughed at me. It would have seemed impossible. Inconceivable. Outlandish. And yet here we are.

Shortly before that, Trump announced that he was sending his new secret police’s shock troops…men in camouflage body armor, carrying machine guns, abducting people off the streets, and now gassing mayors…nationwide.

If I wrote that sentence five years ago, you never would have read another word I wrote. And yet here we are.

Where is this, though, this strange new territory America finds itself in? What’s really happening here?

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Do Americans Get That Trump is Instituting Martial Law? (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2020 OP
Neal Katyal has warned us as well. He called these "very dark days". triron Jul 2020 #1
I'm waiting for things to go to hell in Seattle. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #2
I not only realize it, I posted here several times months ago that this woud be trump's strategy BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #3
Me too. Newest Reality Jul 2020 #7
There is something we can do about it, but we need... DSandra Jul 2020 #21
I say don't let them sleep. Find out where they are lodging. Make noise. No rest for the wicked. Captain Zero Jul 2020 #23
trDumpie has unleashed his privatized army of Fascist gestapos on American cities. magicarpet Jul 2020 #4
For What it's Worth Steelrolled Jul 2020 #5
I remember that song very well. I didn't protest back then but I knew the Vietnam war was for Big triron Jul 2020 #6
The gassiest asshole ever to occupy the oval office Blue Owl Jul 2020 #8
Trying to impose De facto martial law Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #9
Trump didn't design this zipplewrath Jul 2020 #10
How would federal troops do that..I'm asking Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #19
Blocking streets zipplewrath Jul 2020 #20
My guess would be Nexus2 Jul 2020 #22
I hope the media tacks on McConnell's name to this as well. Obstructing legislation diva77 Jul 2020 #11
He's normalizing it in the minds of Americans and strategically distributing his forces Doremus Jul 2020 #12
The sociopath party I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #13
THANK YOU !!! Trump doesn't have to say the words "Martial Law" to invoke it in the swing state ... uponit7771 Jul 2020 #14
No, because he' not brooklynite Jul 2020 #15
No, no. Really lets wait. Lets let him get all set up in Democratic cities right before an election. LizBeth Jul 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jul 2020 #25
Agree..someone here posted a great article regarding a fascist takeover Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #18
We have reduced it to talking in dora explorer language. Fuckin' trying to teach them. LizBeth Jul 2020 #16
If this is actually happening, why are we living our lives like everything is normal? Kaleva Jul 2020 #24
The entire country knows what is going on Cosmocat Jul 2020 #26
K&R superpatriotman Jul 2020 #27
No. They don't. Only the governors, mayors and protestors in the blue states get it. ancianita Jul 2020 #28

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
3. I not only realize it, I posted here several times months ago that this woud be trump's strategy
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jul 2020

pre-elections, and was 99.99% roundly booed as a crackpot.
Still I persisted.
The question is, even if finally more and more people ARE recognizing it, WHAT DO WE DO???

Countless pundits and journalists are talking about it, and NOT ONE, to my knowledge, has put forth ANY IDEA about how to deal with it.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. Me too.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

It has been obvious that he would go there if the right circumstances gave him the opportunity, (and maybe if not).

That is something one hopes to be wrong about, but we have a bona fide tin pot dictator with deep set psychological issues and he needs an outlet as well as total power and control. It was clear all along, but maybe people were just looking at his TV "character" and not analyzing him all along.

We do have to stay on this. All of us. It may come down to "being there" for people in the areas effected. It must be made clear that we have the Constitution on our side in regards to resisting and throwing off any tyranny.

Though some are saying, "don't do anything and don't give him what he wants" I don't think passivity will do anything now, but allow this Hitler to plow everything down. We have to collectively stand tall and be brave and bold, but not reckless or brash. Respond, don't react.

DSandra

(999 posts)
21. There is something we can do about it, but we need...
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jul 2020

- Hundreds of thousands of fearless Americans
- A brave, fearless, smart leader to organize the people in unison
- Ingenious strategists

Captain Zero

(6,813 posts)
23. I say don't let them sleep. Find out where they are lodging. Make noise. No rest for the wicked.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:04 AM
Jul 2020

See how good these goons are all sleep deprived.

Find out how they are being fed too. Proceed from there.

Eyes and ears is the first step in resistance once the established order has been subverted.

magicarpet

(14,157 posts)
4. trDumpie has unleashed his privatized army of Fascist gestapos on American cities.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jul 2020

This is a vehicular motif that he hopes assures his re-election.

Spill and splash Democ-RAT blood to excite the racist bread and circus crowd he calls his base.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
5. For What it's Worth
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jul 2020

Great first verse is very fitting...

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down


Of course, the song later turns on the demonstrators, which is often fitting as well...

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

triron

(22,007 posts)
6. I remember that song very well. I didn't protest back then but I knew the Vietnam war was for Big
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jul 2020

Oil. Fortunately I was able to avoid the draft or I might have gone to Canada (but now that I think
about it maybe I should have and then just have stayed there--I was very young and hadn't started
my career).

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
10. Trump didn't design this
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jul 2020

I'm worried there is some "Julius Schreck" kinda guy (formed the SS) that is looking to become Trump's right hand man by building up Trump's private army. Shock troops so to speak. That'll be what Trump would look to in order to disrupt the election.

Thekaspervote

(32,779 posts)
19. How would federal troops do that..I'm asking
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jul 2020

Almost all if not all polling places are non federal properties which his goons would have no ability to wield any authority.
States control elections, set times and polling places, not some federal goons or the idiot in the WH.

Not saying I don’t think the gop won’t try to suppress the vote, they already are! Am I worried they will try and steal it, yes! But this is not 2016. We are wiser and smarter and have great enthusiasm on our side. The gop doesn’t

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
20. Blocking streets
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jul 2020

Intimidating voters, coordinating with sympathetic police departments, doing ID checks under the guise of looking for illegal aliens, and generally just ignoring the law on election day.

diva77

(7,647 posts)
11. I hope the media tacks on McConnell's name to this as well. Obstructing legislation
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jul 2020

that would rein in Dump has been one of Sadistic-Grim-Reaper-McConnell's delights.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
12. He's normalizing it in the minds of Americans and strategically distributing his forces
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jul 2020

Will he use them to thwart voting or if the election goes against him, will he use them to help steal the election?

Only time will tell but if we don't start doing something NOW we're going to regret it I believe.

Mayors, governors, citizens, unions, EVERYBODY should be out in the streets and general strikes called. The fact that this isn't happening is actually more chilling than the damned fascist power grab.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
14. THANK YOU !!! Trump doesn't have to say the words "Martial Law" to invoke it in the swing state ...
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jul 2020

... urban areas.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
15. No, because he' not
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jul 2020

I’ve lived under Martial Law; what’s happening isn’t anything close to it.

Would you consider it “Martial Law” if a member of Congress was arrested ? Because probably 20-30 of them have been, Over the past few decades, when showing up at some local protest. And not by the Federal Government. By local police, generally under the authority of Democratic Mayors. We can argue the facts, but it’s not “Martial Law”.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
17. No, no. Really lets wait. Lets let him get all set up in Democratic cities right before an election.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jul 2020

With four months ago, he is set up to do whatever. Really. Lets all shut up. Right now. Not like he would do anything stupid, dangerous, corrupt. Lie, or anything like that.

Response to LizBeth (Reply #17)

Thekaspervote

(32,779 posts)
18. Agree..someone here posted a great article regarding a fascist takeover
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jul 2020

Listing percentages of groups and people that would have to fall in line, the destruction of a lot more of the government, control of the federal reserve, the military.

It went on to say If he were going to do fascist take over, he should have started months months ago. The logistics at this late date...it’s just not physically possible. He doesn’t have enough in place to make it happen. Frankly, he’s just to fucking lazy. He’s never had or made plans, he probably doesn’t have the mentality for it. And, even if miller, bannon and others are in the background pushing for this, dotard continues to shoot himself in the foot and foil their plans.

Am I Right? Was the article right?

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
16. We have reduced it to talking in dora explorer language. Fuckin' trying to teach them.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jul 2020

They cannot even grasp how masks are helpful or how to use them.

Kaleva

(36,315 posts)
24. If this is actually happening, why are we living our lives like everything is normal?
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:26 AM
Jul 2020

Other then dealing with COVID-19, my life really isn't much different then when Obama was president and I suspect the same is pretty much true with most of us here.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
26. The entire country knows what is going on
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:53 AM
Jul 2020

Its just that 1/3 of us are cheering it on because LIBERALS! and another 1/3 just don't care.

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
28. No. They don't. Only the governors, mayors and protestors in the blue states get it.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:50 AM
Jul 2020

They get that it's really happening. Most other Americans? No.

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