when we saw Florida opening back up ( they were never really closed ), I predicted 200K dead by August.

I was thinking end of August...

I think that prediction is in the bag at this point.

One of my siblings says 300,000 by election day

and he wants to move on - this is genocide

200,000 deaths by November. I think this country will reach that goal somewhat earlier, without even breaking a sweat.

signaled to Magats that it was ok to wear masks. Businesses are making mask worn properly mandatory for anyone on their property.

I think the above will first slow down infections and around 6 weeks out, cause the deathrate to drop big.

The problem is the very large number of people that got infected over the last month and this week. There is something like 70,000 people in the hospital now and many hospitals are sending sick people home with an oxygen tank. So it is hard to say how many people will die over the next month. But, I expect that by late August or early September, we will see deaths dropping due to more mask wearing taking hold now.

I just hope that when infections drop, followed by a drop in the deathrate, that the dumbass Press doesn’t attempt to credit Trump, he would have had nothing useful to do with that outcome.

some three weeks ago. At the same time, the mayor of my city, Santa Fe, also passed an ordinance mandating face masks. At first people were a little slow to wear them, but for about two weeks now I never see anyone unmasked in a store. I do see some people wearing them wrong, meaning their noses aren't covered, but that's a tiny minority.

And we're experience a real spike in cases anyway. Which means people are still getting infected. I'm going to guess it's from people gathering in each other's houses, or at parks. Indoor dining was closed early on here, reopened at the end of May, and closed again a couple of weeks ago. Right now it's patio dining only. Or carry-out or delivery. Me, I'm not about to eat indoors any time in the foreseeable future.

At least that is among the best science on it to date. I read a few times that the incubation could be longer.

So, the infection spike being seen in your state could be baked in before the mask mandates were done.

was all that was needed. But even if it's a full 15 days, we should then see a very sharp drop in infections starting now. I have a feeling we won't, and I suspect that as good as masking is, a lot of people are being a bit careless outside of going into stores. The park near me, which in the past, all summer long, would be packed with family groups, especially ones celebrating a birthday, is nearly as busy right now as it was last year. Not good.

Too many people just don't get how fully we need to be shut down to get this under control.

At this rate, we will easily be at 200k by election day, if not worse.

And to think of how this country reacted over 9/11 with under 3,000 dead. Not that 9/11 was any less tragic or horrifying, but just by pure scale of preventable deaths, this is a disaster of epic proportions.

Yet there are still so many out there who are not taking it seriously. What will it take to wake people up?

And even that won't convince some.

By the way, I now know 12 that have been infected and 4 that have died.

I expect to see some 1500-2000 per day deathrates soon, but because mask wearing is being forced by businesses, I expect to see the deathrate drop back into the low hundreds per day in late August or early September.

We are seeing a decrease in daily deaths. Less then a thousand today. Let’s hope it continues.

Trump makes up a lot of stuff.

Link to tweet

Easily.

What decrease?

I asked for one from the other poster who claimed deaths were down.

Ah well

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There are just so many seriously sick people out there, some are being sent home sick because hospitals have no room for them. My wag? Deaths should peak at around 2,000 per day over the next 2-3 weeks, then sharply decline due to private companies and local governments forcing proper mask wearing. Where will we be by November? It is hard to say, the actions of private companies and local governments will dramatically slow the virus, no thanks to Trump and republican governors, sans Hogan and Baker - who appear to have taken this seriously from the get go.

I am now to scared to think about the numbers by November. At this rate it will be close to 2000,000 by the end of August.

You need to show your work.

150,000 most likely Sunday.
That is closing in on Viet Nam + WWI (58,000 + 116,000) together. Those wars took a lot of time. Trump has killed 150,000 in (march, april, may, june, july) 5 months.

You think it is bad now. We’re still in the first wave.

In October as more people go inside and many schools open up anyway and those kids seed infections in homes all over it will be an absolute tsunami of death.

I think we exceed 400,000 by November 3rd.

And over 750,000 by the time Biden is inaugurated.

But, the people that are saying that don’t appear to be sure.

Last I checked Virus can be spread by any living being. It's been a long time since Biology Class, but children are a vector.

the virus particles they release fall downward and don’t get to the noses, mouths and eyes of adult family. I honestly have yet to see scientific research backing up that claim.

Kids bring home viruses all the time, what would make SARS-COV-2 an exception?

actual infections and deaths, especially in Florida.

So we probably passed 150,000 long ago in reality.

Sad

I do not like recommending this, as it is such terrible news. But it demands a recommendation, because it is so important for people to see and understand.

Just wait for the first serious hurricane warnings and the evacuations that follow.
Don the Con will be remembered as the worst disaster (bar none) in history.

It is going to get worse. Much worse.

"Thank God for President Trump."

"All deaths involving Covid-19 dropped to 336 week ending 7/18/2020. The lowest reported since 563 deaths the week ending 3/14/2020."

The poster goes on to describe how all of the hype is made up numbers meant only to hurt Trump.....He claims that people who die of heart attacks and gun shots are being counted as Covid deaths and that is the only reason numbers are as high as reported.

I have quit trying to argue with such fools. My last word will be on Nov. 3.

I'll see your and raise you

He's Ivan the Terrible alright. Hi there!

I wonder what the real numbers are.

Maybe 150,000 in May?

Resist!

About 1500 to go. Today is pretty much done. We've been averaging 600/day on weekends; 500-ish on Mondays.

That would put us at 150,000 about midafternoon on Monday.

We'll see - deaths are going up and he is going down.
He will not get a pass this time.

so it is possible we will hit 150,000 by Sunday. Roughly 600 away - which is about the number of deaths on May 31. (Sunday hasn't been near that since then.)

and he thinks he's doing a great job.
This did not have to happen

You were right - It will be tonight
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
4,371,276
Deaths:
149,843

Which counts slightly fewer cases.

But we will hit 150K no matter what next week, given that deaths increased by 1200+ this early morning from the same time a day before.