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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:32 PM Jul 2020

How can you believe two different things at the same time?

My neighbor told me tonight she does not believe the virus is real.
Then she said it was created to reduce the world's overpopulation.

Huh ?

I asked her,
what about the 150,000 dead people.

She said,
those are just numbers.

Okie dokie

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How can you believe two different things at the same time? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 OP
Doublethink. She's a goner. bullimiami Jul 2020 #1
She believes in one thing: parroting back foxnews nonsense. unblock Jul 2020 #2
It has to be hard on them safeinOhio Jul 2020 #3
She's just covering the bases ....just in case. Grammy23 Jul 2020 #4
Cognitive Dissonance is a helluva drug... RockRaven Jul 2020 #5
Mental Splitting--a DSM-IV psych issue. Strong Christians use it to resolve 300 biblical errors. TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #6
👀 marking underpants Jul 2020 #9
Magical thinking. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #7
Cognitive dissonance! Silver1 Jul 2020 #8
Consider how these people came to support Trump underpants Jul 2020 #10
Primary requirement is being proud to be deplorable. greyl Jul 2020 #11
She missed out on critical thinking skills at birth. Sad. brush Jul 2020 #12

unblock

(52,240 posts)
2. She believes in one thing: parroting back foxnews nonsense.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jul 2020

It's not about objective reality for them. It's about showing loyalty to their side, pushing the party line, convincing others, etc.

They see the rest of us as limited or held back by our silly insistence that statements have some grounding in actual truth.

Once you dispense with that crazy notion, then parroting back two lines that logically contradict each other is no problem at all.

After all, the goal is to throw it all against the wall and see what sticks. So they talk about many things and later drop the ones people dismiss and stick with the one that works.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
4. She's just covering the bases ....just in case.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jul 2020

Either way.....it is not real. It IS real.

She’s right. How convenient.

TheBlackAdder

(28,202 posts)
6. Mental Splitting--a DSM-IV psych issue. Strong Christians use it to resolve 300 biblical errors.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:09 AM
Jul 2020

.

The impact on Christianity was exacerbated after the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy, where many different churches got together and affirmed that the Bible is without Error. Previously, the position was that the Bible was divinely inspired by God and written by fallible man, which could explain away the over 300 errors in it, but once that meeting in the late 70s occurred, churches started pushing that the Bible is without error.

The intelligentsia of the churches and Christian colleges protested and were forced to either resign or adopt this sham. As such, most left their positions in protest. This created a brain drain and opened the door for a bunch of uneducated religious hacks to fill the voids. Church leaders began to fabricate backstories that never existed to build false narratives of why these errors exist.

Church congregants also know of the many errors in the Bible and this is what causes the mental conflict. Akin to I know this is wrong, but to be a devout evangelical I must believe the stories I'm being told. This also grooms the congregants to accept other false information and adopt it as true.

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underpants

(182,811 posts)
10. Consider how these people came to support Trump
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:56 AM
Jul 2020

Note - he did not receive a majority of votes in their primary either.

These people simply couldn’t handle it. Too much change way too quickly. A black President was one thing but that was a result of the obvious lies about the war, a crumbling of an economic system they worshipped, and a visible crumbling of basic compassion in the midst of a natural disaster. All their patriotic dogma crashed and burned around them. Not only did the black guy save everything but suddenly being gay was both okay and celebrated. It was simply too much.

Enter the white knight. It’s all sunshine and roses. Victory after reaffirming victory....then it all crashed again but this time in a brutally fast 90-120 days.

It’s just too much for them.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
11. Primary requirement is being proud to be deplorable.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:03 AM
Jul 2020

That's the RNC target market of gullible, hateful fools.

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