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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts) Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:16 AM Jul 2020

Internal DHS Memo formally changing the blame for PDX violence from "Violent Opportunists" to Antifa

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Benjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes

Internal memo from head of DHS I&A formally changing the blame for Portland violence from "Violent Opportunists" (VO) to Antifa.

Glossary:
FIR=field intelligence report
OSIR=open source intelligence report

Benjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes

Understand this document as responsive to POTUS pressure to "designate" Antifa as a terrorist organization.

7:09 AM · Jul 26, 2020

This is dated yesterday. It's indicative that there's a new push to label any opposition as "Antifa".

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Internal DHS Memo formally changing the blame for PDX violence from "Violent Opportunists" to Antifa (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jul 2020 OP

WTH do they mean by baseball cards of the arrested? Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #1

Probably something like the "Deck of Cards" they had in the Iraq War but the new reference to them Pachamama Jul 2020 #8

Idiocy oswaldactedalone Jul 2020 #2

Right!? It's almost too funny. They even used KPN Jul 2020 #6

So DHS has designated itself as Fascists, ok Captain Zero Jul 2020 #3

I hope once trump is gone there will be a thorough reckoning in the government captain queeg Jul 2020 #4

That DHS Wolf in sheep's clothing needs to be locked up malaise Jul 2020 #5

That's Stupid.. of Course, We're Anti-Fascist! Cha Jul 2020 #7

This is dangerous semantics. "Antifa" has already(?), or will be labeled a terrorist group by Barr Freethinker65 Jul 2020 #9

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)

1. WTH do they mean by baseball cards of the arrested?

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:41 AM

Jul 2020

This whole missive sounds like someone writing it after the fact from their hotel room. We're paying him to do this?

What a joke.

Have they ever determined how many "members" ANTIFA has? Do they know what it stands for? I think most of us are against Facists, so over half of the U.S. are members?

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)

8. Probably something like the "Deck of Cards" they had in the Iraq War but the new reference to them

Reply to Frustratedlady (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 08:07 AM

Jul 2020

...being Baseball Cards is like having pictures and stats on people they are “collecting”....

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)

2. Idiocy

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:43 AM

Jul 2020

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and Fascism. So yes, I guess we're antifa, as we should be.

KPN

(15,646 posts)

6. Right!? It's almost too funny. They even used

Reply to oswaldactedalone (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:58 AM

Jul 2020

the words “we have overwhelming intelligence” — NOT! Can’t get much more moronic than this.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)

3. So DHS has designated itself as Fascists, ok

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:45 AM

Jul 2020

I am Antifa.

captain queeg

(10,207 posts)

4. I hope once trump is gone there will be a thorough reckoning in the government

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:53 AM

Jul 2020

And words will mean something again. It’s like govt scientists not be allowed to use the words global warming or climate change. And they can just throw “antifa” out since it’s meaningless in their vernacular. Or Antifa is defined as a specific, real organization.

malaise

(269,026 posts)

5. That DHS Wolf in sheep's clothing needs to be locked up

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:55 AM

Jul 2020

Antifa does not exist

Cha

(297,275 posts)

7. That's Stupid.. of Course, We're Anti-Fascist!

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:58 AM

Jul 2020

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)

9. This is dangerous semantics. "Antifa" has already(?), or will be labeled a terrorist group by Barr

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 08:38 AM

Jul 2020

Being labeled as part of terrorist group, and not merely a protester gives the government certain options under the Patriot Act that would not otherwise be available. They are labeling random protesters as Antifa not only because it gives Trump as easy name to scare people about during an election year.

Notice Barr and Trump are quiet about the actual arrests of alt-right domestic terrorist group members like the boogaloos.

https://www.aclu.org/other/how-usa-patriot-act-redefines-domestic-terrorism

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