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This video is completely devastating for Trump. George Carlin gives him the finger from the grave. (Original Post) soothsayer Jul 2020 OP
Big fat K&R! flibbitygiblets Jul 2020 #1
Kick and Retweet for Speaking Truth to Power Tommymac Jul 2020 #2
Amen. BKDem Jul 2020 #3
K&R Docreed2003 Jul 2020 #4
Is this a direct quote, or a Carlin impersonation? FakeNoose Jul 2020 #5
It's George. The bit has been around for a while. Auggie Jul 2020 #11
Here: SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2020 #13
I just watched the whole thing yesterday... BigOleDummy Jul 2020 #15
We were in the audience for that show stopwastingmymoney Jul 2020 #24
Oh I thought that background looked wrong 😊 stopwastingmymoney Jul 2020 #25
The clip is edited a little JonLP24 Jul 2020 #32
Actually, Carlin is also giving Democrats the finger as well... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #6
+1 betsuni Jul 2020 #7
Billionaires Also Push Democrats Around DanieRains Jul 2020 #16
Exactly. Thank you for saying it. zentrum Jul 2020 #19
Stop. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #20
Why? Is it inaccurate? FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #28
See posts #29 and #30 - the level of prosecutions of banks was unprecedented under Obama. George II Jul 2020 #31
Thank you for that FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #33
Criminal prosecutions of individuals in situations like this rarely, if ever... George II Jul 2020 #37
I get so fucking tired of the "Obama did nothing" smears and attacks. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #38
I suspect its a way of indirectly bashing his VP, Biden. trump does it every day.... George II Jul 2020 #39
Nobody's "smearing" Obama FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #42
Oh please, come off it! NurseJackie Jul 2020 #45
you're the only one I see making those statements FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #46
Stop playing games. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #47
I'm not disputing that Obama's DOJ FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #43
Start with this: George II Jul 2020 #29
Obama's Administration was highly effective in prosecuting banks: George II Jul 2020 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #23
"third way Democrats latched onto the teats of Wall Street" is criticism, not disparagement? George II Jul 2020 #34
Of course it's meant as a New England style slam on Democrats and the Democratic party. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #35
No wonder trump was able to "win" on the basis of a mere 77,000 votes. Let's hope we do better.... George II Jul 2020 #36
Yep It Discards Responsibility for the Choices Americans Have Made Stallion Jul 2020 #26
Love the man, the genius, Mr Carlin Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #8
Carlin's words are as accurate now as they were then. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #9
For decades, you work, toil, sweat, and sacrifice to make some dick even richer than they were CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #22
Top shelf commentary, right there. yonder Jul 2020 #10
I admired Carlin a lot more when I was an adolescent eager for Hortensis Jul 2020 #12
Exactly! For the ignorant and weak-of-principle, things like this create... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #40
"Negativity generates apathy." Yeah... Hortensis Jul 2020 #41
What I Have Been Saying All Along DanieRains Jul 2020 #14
If anyone owned you, it'd by shackling your thinking, Hortensis Jul 2020 #27
You Need 50 Million To Run For The Senate DanieRains Jul 2020 #17
Wow. Just Wow. zentrum Jul 2020 #18
My sentiments exactly! nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #21
K and Fn R nt greyl Jul 2020 #44

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
2. Kick and Retweet for Speaking Truth to Power
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jul 2020

George was The People's treasure. I love him, and wish he was with us today.

Fucking retweet this if you care at all about Reality.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
5. Is this a direct quote, or a Carlin impersonation?
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jul 2020

It sure sounds like him, but I don't know when he would have said this or what context. He frequently made political references in his stand-up routines, even on television. I believe he could have said these things, but I don't recall ever hearing this rant before.

Whoever created the video using the montage of current clips, nice job on this! I'm sure Mr. Carlin would approve.



Auggie

(31,172 posts)
11. It's George. The bit has been around for a while.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jul 2020

It’s as spot on today as it was when he introduced it.

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
15. I just watched the whole thing yesterday...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jul 2020

...it's the last HBO special he did "Life is worth losing" and the whole thing is worth watching. Classic George and as relevant today as when he stood on that stage.

"Its a big club, and you ain't in it" is also part of that.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
24. We were in the audience for that show
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jul 2020

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve thought about George and what he might have said about the idiot current event of the day

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
25. Oh I thought that background looked wrong 😊
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020

This is from the last show, he looks a little older, chaotic library set, March 2008




JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
32. The clip is edited a little
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jul 2020

He was honestly talking about both parties. I honestly don't think this ad is a good idea.

This is the full length version.


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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. Actually, Carlin is also giving Democrats the finger as well...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jul 2020
This video is completely devastating for Trump. George Carlin gives him the finger from the grave.
Actually, Carlin is also giving Democrats the finger as well. Although the video is edited to be Trump-centric, Carlin's words unfairly engage in the "both sides" attack that also smears loyal, true, honest and stalwart Democrats.

I don't like it.
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
16. Billionaires Also Push Democrats Around
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

Obama was not allowed to jail any top bankers in 2009. Even if he wanted to.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
28. Why? Is it inaccurate?
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jul 2020

If so, please name one bankster jailed or punished by the Obama administration.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
33. Thank you for that
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jul 2020

However, from the article you posted, it seems that only a handful of lower-level bank employees received any jail time. The execs, the Jamie Dimons, did not.

As to the fines, a $10 billion fine sounds like a staggering amount of money to me, but if the bank made hundreds of billions on whatever violation it was fined for, that is hardly a deterrent. And most of those fines were reduced or "settled" for less.

In fact, it really looks more like the government simply retroactively demanded a cut. There may well have been unprecedented prosecution, but there was no real punishment. Banks were called "too big to fail" and "too big to jail", and those same banks are now bigger than ever.

One mentioned in that article, the French bank BNP Paribas, subsequently was allowed to take over Bank of the West.


George II

(67,782 posts)
37. Criminal prosecutions of individuals in situations like this rarely, if ever...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jul 2020

wind up in convictions. Best to go after the corporations themselves, which is what the Obama DOJ did and was successful in winning.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. I get so fucking tired of the "Obama did nothing" smears and attacks.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020

Why does this shit continue? And why NOW?? What purpose does this serve?

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. I suspect its a way of indirectly bashing his VP, Biden. trump does it every day....
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jul 2020

Criminal fines and penalties were virtually non-existent prior to 2009, then shot way up:

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
45. Oh please, come off it!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020
Nobody's "smearing" Obama
LOL! Oh please, come off it! I wasn't born yesterday you know. Y'all need to cut this shit out.

One can only wonder why simple fact can be so upsetting to some.
Which fact? All I see are a series of repeated insinuations. Obviously, this is just a continuation of the accusations that Obama was a "lazy do-nothing Democrat" who is "no better than the Republicans" that he's a "corporatist" who is "in league with banksters" and that Democrats "are the party of the elite" and the "party of the one percent".

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
46. you're the only one I see making those statements
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jul 2020

My posts address banks, prosecutions , and consequential punishment.

All those other projections , strawmen and statements are just attempts to put words in the mouths of others. I didn't make any of those statements and I'm not gonna argue about them.

I say banksters were not jailed, and the banks were not punished in a way that deters further corruption. That's the fact, and that's what actually should have you upset, not the strawmen

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
47. Stop playing games.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jul 2020
I didn't make any of those statements and I'm not gonna argue about them.
I never said you did. What I said was that you were adding to the chorus and amplifying those messages. You know exactly what you were doing and so do I. You also know exactly what's been going on. None of this is happening in a vacuum. This is just part of a continued and ongoing effort to denigrate and smear Democrats, the Democratic party, our elder statesmen and women, our leaders, and our nominee.

Don't treat me like I'm an idiot. At least I understand what a consensus is.

I say banksters were not jailed, and the banks were not punished in a way that deters further corruption.
Still the effort is being made to "blame" Obama. That much is clear. It's already been established that MORE action and prosecutions took place during Obama's terms than ever before. And now we have all this moaning and groaning that he didn't do enough. Boo-hoo.

Better to build on that success than to continually bemoan the man and the party... the man and party that you should be on your knees and THANKING instead. But, I guess this is to be expected from the folks who wanted Obama to be primaried after his first term.

Jesus Christ!

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
43. I'm not disputing that Obama's DOJ
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jul 2020

increased the prosecutions, and collected billions more in fines.

But regardless of the reason for not prosecuting responsible individuals, if there is no meaningful punishment, there is no deterrent.

That's why the same corporations DO pay their payroll taxes - the responsible individual will be prosecuted and can be held liable for the company's unpaid tax.

Also, stating these facts is not "bashing". It's just truth.

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #6)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. Of course it's meant as a New England style slam on Democrats and the Democratic party.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jul 2020

It really serves no good purpose, and the timing of these new rounds of these types of denigrating smears and attacks on Democrats is suspicious. The "both sides" smears... the lies that Democrats are "do-nothings"... that Democrats are "the party of the one-percent", blah-blah-blah.

I've pointed out on many occasions that this type of thing only serves to create an atmosphere of negativity: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.


George II

(67,782 posts)
36. No wonder trump was able to "win" on the basis of a mere 77,000 votes. Let's hope we do better....
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jul 2020

...this time around.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
26. Yep It Discards Responsibility for the Choices Americans Have Made
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

"Is Donald Trump the President--Yes he is--We elected him President....."

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
9. Carlin's words are as accurate now as they were then.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jul 2020

Billionaires and corporations own everything, we just have the illusion of freedom and real choice to keep us from rising up.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
22. For decades, you work, toil, sweat, and sacrifice to make some dick even richer than they were
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jul 2020

before you got there. Then, instead of a gold watch, you get a pink slip.

After the gross (intentional?) mismanagement of the company and a few thousand families devastated, the schmuck gets a $12 million retirement package after you get kicked in your package.

It's called Capitalism.

They capitalize on you just like when the defense recovers a fumble. The announcer even says, "They really capitalized on that miscue, didn't they? And now a word from EffYu Industries, a family-owned company."

Then you push your shopping cart past the TV store, hoping to find a fresh rat for today's lone meal.

The Land of Opportunity (if you pick the right birth canal to emerge from).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. I admired Carlin a lot more when I was an adolescent eager for
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jul 2020

a grown-up share of the ignorant cynicism that passed for wisdom in my circles. It was in the air and so easy to be politically sophisticated. My husband and I even went to see Carlin in West Hollywood for my 21st birthday.

Remember the disaster of 2016, when critical millions of people were persuaded by lying scoundrels foreign and domestic that they had nothing good to vote for? So didn't?

This ad could have been used then and can be used now to suppress votes for Democrats by preying on those so ignorant and weak of principle that a few catchphrases and toxic ads will keep them home. Republicans vote in high numbers. The voting problem is OURS.

Here's some more vintage Carlin. And vintage is the word. But notice the hidden message to these, which listeners can take at face value or completely the opposite. Depending on what is appealed to in them.

The next time they give you all that civic bullshit about voting, keep in mind that Hitler was elected in a full, free democratic election.

I don't vote. Two reasons.

First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years doesn't mean a fucking thing.

Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. Exactly! For the ignorant and weak-of-principle, things like this create...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jul 2020
This ad could have been used then and can be used now to suppress votes for Democrats by preying on those so ignorant and weak of principle that a few catchphrases and toxic ads will keep them home.
Exactly! For the ignorant and weak-of-principle, things like this create an atmosphere of negativity: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

ignorant cynicism that passed for wisdom
Beautifully worded. Thank you. Apparently it's still a "thing" all these years later. Sigh.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. "Negativity generates apathy." Yeah...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jul 2020

After the development, and refining, of advertising techniques of mass manipulation and communications, each of the last few generations has grown up marinated in in soul-killing political negativity

I remember being horrified when a matinee full of kids cheered as aliens destroyed the White House; but it was 1996, and the Republicans' toxic anti-government propaganda industry had been in full production since their parents were their age.

Those kids and others have been voting or of voting age for a long time now. Many rescued themselves, but many more were among the almost HALF who didn't vote, even in 2016. Apathy. And also complacence. For all their usual complaining excuses, those who did vote enabled them to maintain that. Until 2016.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. If anyone owned you, it'd by shackling your thinking,
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

not your money or freedom.

But absolutely NO ONE wants to own any of us, and I can't imagine how anyone can think otherwise. They're trying to get rid of us.

Does the word come from a desire, I wonder, as it does with strong conservatives, to be secure and cared for by a ruling order? Or merely an expectation of settling for at least some return for all they take? Whatever, at best they'd "own" all the people who think they have a claim on them like they'd own gum they were trying to scrape off their shoes.

As for voting, they're AFRAID of us. That's why they work so constantly to make you think your vote doesn't matter and to steal the votes of those who know theirs do.

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