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(624 posts)
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:01 PM Jul 2020

Agent Provacateurs at protests?

How is it that last night in places all over the country protests suddenly became more violent, more fires started, more "explosives" (when has that ever happened) tossed at police after protests had been relatively quiet for a few weeks? The description of events in Oakland, CA in the newspaper here included "protesters . . . started chanting racial slurs at residents." No one here EVER chants a racial slur at ANYONE of ANY race. There is some real B.S. going on now, setting things up for Trump to send in the federal police.

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Agent Provacateurs at protests? (Original Post) people Jul 2020 OP
It's always thus. The true "deep state" sends out agent provacatuers to... brush Jul 2020 #1
Cointelpro - it's never gone away. scarletwoman Jul 2020 #6
without a doubt Demonaut Jul 2020 #2
Of course there are agents provocateurs at work. Trump needs them for his "violent rioters" scarletwoman Jul 2020 #3
Exactly. H2O Man Jul 2020 #10
Yep. kentuck Jul 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #4
If cops weren't ass hurt they'd be involved with the protest against them to get the assholes who uponit7771 Jul 2020 #7
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #9
The ones breaking stuff are not there to protest. They're there to break stuff. brush Jul 2020 #8
Likely paid? Huh. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #11
You didn't hear of the reports of alleged "protestors" imported... brush Jul 2020 #15
Yes, I saw the video of the white guy breaking the windows out of the Autozone HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #16
And rightgeous protestors they were not. brush Jul 2020 #18
ReallY???? Tommymac Jul 2020 #30
I've been saying this. bamagal62 Jul 2020 #5
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2020 #12
No question. Including some of the stuff in Portland over the past week. KPN Jul 2020 #13
I've been wondering about that myself Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #17
Agent Provocateurs, Disinformation campaigns, CointelPro. It is all happening. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #19
+1 Tommymac Jul 2020 #31
A few weeks back someone posted a video of Minneapolis police slashing reporters' car tires. ucrdem Jul 2020 #20
yep. and my first thought on that one was stopdiggin Jul 2020 #27
Agent provacateurs and a few dumbshits Blecht Jul 2020 #21
On a random night protestors should stay home bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #22
well the bars and cinemas are close, what else to do at 2 am? nt msongs Jul 2020 #23
k&r for visibility alwaysinasnit Jul 2020 #24
Reichstag Fire...Everywhere Thunderbeast Jul 2020 #25
Just assume that there are paid provocateurs. Expect the worst. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #26
We had the weirdest experience at the Seattle "riot" area yesterday. nolabear Jul 2020 #28
Good observation. Organized crime. Whether this WH occupant or police unions. Blackwater/DeVos erronis Jul 2020 #32
The only organized 'Antifa' seems to be Trump supporters showing up with their spray paint, Molotov keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #29
No doubt about it. NoRoadUntravelled Jul 2020 #33
They provoked disorder at the George Floyd protests live love laugh Jul 2020 #34

brush

(53,784 posts)
1. It's always thus. The true "deep state" sends out agent provacatuers to...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

create chaos and violence to discredit the protests so there is an excuse for police to move in. Same thing happened in Minnesota, Atlanta...wherever there are peaceful protest, then of course the looters move in, which is also intended. There's a definite pattern. Before it was Hoover's FBI, who knows who is behind it now but I'm sure it comes from the right.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
3. Of course there are agents provocateurs at work. Trump needs them for his "violent rioters"
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jul 2020

reelection scenario.

Response to people (Original post)

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
7. If cops weren't ass hurt they'd be involved with the protest against them to get the assholes who
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jul 2020

... want to break shit out of the protest.

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #7)

brush

(53,784 posts)
8. The ones breaking stuff are not there to protest. They're there to break stuff.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jul 2020

There's a difference. And many are likely paid. Who goes to protests dressed to hide their identity if they are just there to protest?

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
11. Likely paid? Huh.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

People hide their identity when breaking the law to hide their identity while breaking the law.

Kinda like bank robbers wearing masks and such.

brush

(53,784 posts)
15. You didn't hear of the reports of alleged "protestors" imported...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

from state to state, black-clad with identities hidden, to disrupt the protests. There were many videos shown on this very board of them systemically walking down streets in Minneapolis breaking every shop window on the block. You didn't see any of those here?

It's pretty obvious they weren't doing that for free.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
16. Yes, I saw the video of the white guy breaking the windows out of the Autozone
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jul 2020

in Minneapolis - don't know if he was paid or not and neither do you.

What's pretty obvious is that no one seems to believe that some of these 'protesters' aren't protesting anything and have no idea what the protests are even about, but are there to simply cause trouble.

Righteous angels they are not.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
17. I've been wondering about that myself
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jul 2020

Fires were set by some at a Seattle protest the other day. Most of these have been rather none violent.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
19. Agent Provocateurs, Disinformation campaigns, CointelPro. It is all happening.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jul 2020

These are all old tactics used by our government forces and have been in practice for a long time.

To think that these tactics would not be employed by this criminal cartel currently inhabiting the people's house is to ignore reality.

They want civil unrest. If they can get us fighting each other, they win.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
20. A few weeks back someone posted a video of Minneapolis police slashing reporters' car tires.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jul 2020

Very business-like and brisk, like they were just doing routine police work. That was . . . eye-opening.

stopdiggin

(11,314 posts)
27. yep. and my first thought on that one was
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jul 2020

Who ordered this? Who signed off on this? Talk about your typical criminal street gangs!
(incidentally -- I think the MN thing was local and internal -- and thus a somewhat different thing from the OP topic)

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
21. Agent provacateurs and a few dumbshits
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jul 2020

Thousands of peaceful protesters are "boring". A handful dumbshits with fireworks are much more "interesting".

Plus agent provocateurs, of course, but the dumbshits are making them unnecessary.

Thunderbeast

(3,414 posts)
25. Reichstag Fire...Everywhere
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jul 2020

Eric Prince and James O'Keefe (Project Veritas) have their odor all over this.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
26. Just assume that there are paid provocateurs. Expect the worst.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jul 2020

Trump will do ANYTHING to maintain and increase power. Paid provocateurs are easy and relatively cheap. It's money well spent for a fascist.

Just stay disciplined if you're protesting.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
28. We had the weirdest experience at the Seattle "riot" area yesterday.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jul 2020

We used to live on Capitol Hill and were out noodling around yesterday afternoon when we decided to go see what was going on in the former CHOP, where they’ve said violent protests went on the night before. There were many boarded up windows and lots of graffiti but there were NO people other than those just going about their business (all in masks I might add). It was utterly quiet.

Less than an hour later I was home and turned on the TV to local news with the banner “Police declare riot in Seattle.” And there was live footage of a ton of bicycle cops facing down maybe 200 people, indeed with some scuffles. A fire had been set in an empty building they were planning to make a “youth detention center”

I cannot for the life of me figure how this happened within such a short time unless there was some organized effort, not to protest, but to create trouble. And of course things didn’t get any better.

keithbvadu2

(36,816 posts)
29. The only organized 'Antifa' seems to be Trump supporters showing up with their spray paint, Molotov
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020

The only organized 'Antifa' seems to be Trump supporters showing up with their spray paint, Molotov cocktails, or vandalism tools, pretending to be protesters.

https://imgur.com/gallery/E1Ik0Ra

https://imgur.com/gallery/6a8JxK7

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
33. No doubt about it.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jul 2020

Peaceful protesters, after hours of singing songs and holding cell phones in the air don't suddenly start destroying federal buildings and setting fires.

live love laugh

(13,114 posts)
34. They provoked disorder at the George Floyd protests
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jul 2020

It doesn’t take the blind to see that it is not a coincidence that protests that had all but died down nationally are suddenly re-emerging in the wake of Trump’s federal intervention reelection stunt.

One person and one party stand to benefit from this chaos.

Furthermore WHY are they even protesting now? It’s coordinated and the gullible are showing up. I don’t think they even know why they are protesting at this point. AND notice that most of the “new” protesters aren’t wearing masks unlike a month ago.

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