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brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:36 PM Jul 2020

Biden's VP shortlist comes up short

Politico

Joe Biden has a dilemma when it comes to choosing a running mate.

The Democratic presidential nominee wants to pick someone who is like him (or at least the way he saw himself as vice president): loyal, trusted, experienced, apolitical, someone with whom he will bond.

"He's not kidding when he says I really want someone I'm simpatico with — someone he can trust," said a close Biden ally. "His experience with Obama was one of genuine closeness and trust."

As Biden conducts a series of interviews with a final list of potential running mates ahead of his August decision, his biggest concern is that there is nobody on his list with whom he has any previous deep relationship.
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Biden's VP shortlist comes up short (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
Politico Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #1
Yup! Stir stir stir Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #11
Right ?! uponit7771 Jul 2020 #25
Amy and he jelled...but she said pick someone else. KewlKat Jul 2020 #2
Not necessarily ruled out empedocles Jul 2020 #3
For which I'm thankful lame54 Jul 2020 #27
bs piece. He has worked well with Susan Rice for years. JI7 Jul 2020 #29
Biden needs to pick from the left of him and not the right. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2020 #32
Is Susan Rice "to his right" Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #33
She's not the progressive I'd like to see, but she's left of Amy. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2020 #34
Ryan Cillizza pens another "Dems don't have it together" crap piece agingdem Jul 2020 #4
Yes, I've noticed an uptick in efforts to kickstart the horse race narrative. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #24
where the hell are Hillary's emails when ya need 'em??? agingdem Jul 2020 #26
Politico, jeez. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #5
Politico again? mcar Jul 2020 #6
It's an honest article. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #7
you should make that MoJo article an OP Celerity Jul 2020 #21
I'm a bit shy about that sort of thing, but you're welcome to. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #31
Second day in a row Politico claims that there is some 'problem' crickets Jul 2020 #8
How well did he know Obama More_Cowbell Jul 2020 #9
As I remember it, they became friendly during the primary. emulatorloo Jul 2020 #12
Standard POLITICO "Democrats in Disarray" narrative. Most of DU have caught onto their BS emulatorloo Jul 2020 #10
Take it with a grain a salt. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #13
Hmmm. I don't recall O and Biden having a previous, deep relationship. brush Jul 2020 #14
That might be what he wants but it's not what he needs Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #15
I have said my Nikki28 Jul 2020 #16
You have some good points mahina Jul 2020 #30
Susan Rice seems like a good choice IronLionZion Jul 2020 #17
NLP ogsball Jul 2020 #18
Unrec Kingofalldems Jul 2020 #19
that seems like BS to me NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #20
LOL. Politico gonna Politico! DarthDem Jul 2020 #22
I don't think Biden was close to Obama before being chosen Veep and that seemed to work. Vinca Jul 2020 #23
Fuck Politico JI7 Jul 2020 #28

agingdem

(7,860 posts)
4. Ryan Cillizza pens another "Dems don't have it together" crap piece
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jul 2020

what else is new...the sonofabitch wants a horserace...sorry dude...not this time...

BannonsLiver

(16,470 posts)
24. Yes, I've noticed an uptick in efforts to kickstart the horse race narrative.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

The blowout polls for Biden have become tiresome for the chattering class.

agingdem

(7,860 posts)
26. where the hell are Hillary's emails when ya need 'em???
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020

poor Ryan...must be a real bitch to have nothing to whine about..

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
5. Politico, jeez.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

He isn't going to sleep with them, FFS; he just has to feel like he can get along with them. A lot of presidents haven't had "deep relationships" with their running mates before selecting them. Sometimes they didn't even like them.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
7. It's an honest article.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

There is no 'Home Run' candidate who checks all the boxes - all have pluses and minuses.

Lots of great choices but no perfect choice - but such is life in the Big City.

This article was interesting as well but from a much different perspective:

"Stories about Biden’s choice have put a longstanding sexist narrative back in the news: Ambitious women cannot be trusted."

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/kamala-harris-vice-president-sexism/

crickets

(25,983 posts)
8. Second day in a row Politico claims that there is some 'problem'
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

with Biden and his VP choice. This is silly. He has a stellar list of candidates, any one of whom will do a great job. He's not a grade schooler- he knows how to get along with people, how to choose someone he feels comfortable with. This invention of 'problems' is silly.

trump has enough problems to fill a bag of holding, Politico. Why don't you go write about those?

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
9. How well did he know Obama
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

before he was picked? Everything I've read indicates that their relationship grew during their time serving together, and wasn't a prior relationship.

brush

(53,876 posts)
14. Hmmm. I don't recall O and Biden having a previous, deep relationship.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jul 2020

Where is that speculation coming from?

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
15. That might be what he wants but it's not what he needs
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jul 2020

He needs a strong woman who stands outside of his shadow.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
16. I have said my
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jul 2020

feelings on this. So in my opinion,he should pick whomever he wants and not be boxed in to pick a woman just because he is pressured to. I still hold out hope that he choose Gov Cuomo because he has the built in experience and will be an excellent president. The points going for him is he has already have a platform that many tune in to see daily. He does not back down or play with Trump. He is a fighter and will go as hard as Trump because they are from the same city. He is built in and more than qualified. I also may get flack for what I am about to see,but here goes.

I honestly do not think Biden should have to choose a black woman because the racist will have a ball and it will play right into Trump's plans to tie them to the black live matters and the main ones who hated the black man in the white house will come out for TRump again because they do not want another black anything in the white house. If he has to pick a woman;;big Gretch-Sally Yates. I think Biden knows this because he knows how these racist work better than anyone because he saw what BO went through.JmHO.

mahina

(17,705 posts)
30. You have some good points
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jul 2020

I know that the Democrats have taken the black vote for granted for way too long and there’s a strong feeling that we need a black person for VP to respect that. But I do agree with you but he shouldn’t be pressured to choose a black woman. He should pick somebody he can work with and somebody who can run and win, most importantly somebody who would be an excellent president if God forbid it’s necessary.

Cuomo would be.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
17. Susan Rice seems like a good choice
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jul 2020

as the only one he has developed a working relationship with before. Not sure the Benghazi conspiracy attack is going to be as effective this time considering Trump's Russian influence, obvious failures on the pandemic, and jackbooted thugs beating up American moms.

ogsball

(356 posts)
18. NLP
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jul 2020

It triggers me when the first three words are . .

Joe Biden has a dilemma

The Republicans are masters at planting ideas and reinforcing them over and over with talking points and sound alike confusions. They are exceptional at playing the media to get them involved too.

'Has dimentia' and 'has a dilemma' is close enough to reinforce the Republican talking point that Biden is slipping mentally.

This word association is all part of Neuro Linguistic Programming and when done effectively it works. By the way this is what Trump is very effective at doing. The crazier it looks the more access you have to people's deep brain.

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
23. I don't think Biden was close to Obama before being chosen Veep and that seemed to work.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jul 2020

Joe's got to pick someone who will excite the younger among us who seem - according to reporting - disappointed in not having Obama-level excitement surrounding him. Personally, I'm not looking for excitement, I'm looking for sanity. Any of the people in consideration are exciting enough for me.

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