anybody who has kids know they are the best illness spreaders out there. Nobody should believe or fall for any of the bs the dip shits are trying to ram down our throats or up our arses.

I used to be a teacher. I caught everything the kids got.

I have a daughter named Ananda, she, her daughter and my wife shared a hotel room once to watch the 2016 eclipse.

I came home with pneumonia, her kid had a fever. I certainly don’t blame them, but kids are a Petri dish of every germ known to humans.

at a daycare center in my late teens and early 20’s in the late 70’s. I always ended up with the flu. This was before the flu shots were encouraged. Not until my late 20’s did a doctor suggest I get a flu shot. And yes I believed then they spread all kinds of nasty stuff after my experience.

How they could even think of sending kids back to school shows how insane our nation has become. It’s like sending the kids into a burning building.

They are constantly picking a winner and placing it somewhere, especially in places like schools and grocery stores. I have gotten into the habit of washing anything from any grocery store.

They get every germ under the sun, carry it, and spread it.

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how it spreads, who spreads it and the likelihood of transmission. Do we really want to risk the lives of our children for Trump's economy and re-election chsnces?

If I had school aged children, I would not be comfortable about sending them to a classroom right now.

And we keep filling in those gaps with incomplete information. This is why we needed a comprehensive testing regime in place after the initial lockdowns in March. Test, learn, and adapt.

to get this pandemic under control. It can't be done piecemeal.

That's the proverbial canary in the coal mine here.

My god the shit the con artists are trying to pull goes against all common sense.

Of course schools are germ factories. Parents become ill by catching viruses and cold from their children.

Dear lord who doesn’t know and understand this?

One of the first school districts in the country to reopen its doors during the coronavirus pandemic did not even make it a day before being forced to grapple with the issue facing every system actively trying to get students into classrooms: What happens when someone comes to school infected?

Just hours into the first day of classes on Thursday, a call from the county health department notified Greenfield Central Junior High School in Indiana that a student who had walked the halls and sat in various classrooms had tested positive for the coronavirus.

Administrators began an emergency protocol, isolating the student and ordering everyone who had come into close contact with the person, including other students, to quarantine for 14 days. It is unclear whether the student infected anyone else.

“We knew it was a when, not if,” said Harold E. Olin, superintendent of the Greenfield-Central Community School Corporation, but were “very shocked it was on Day 1.”

Open 'em back up and see what happens.

Jeezus kryst, people.

While a sleep away camp poses particular challenges that schools and other social settings may not face, the

I would argue the inverse also is true.
At sleep away camp children can be kept in smaller groups. All activities can be outside at distanced. There are no daily bus rides. there is no daily contact with outside people. All meals can be at camp site in small groups instead of lunch rooms.
Bathrooms and showers can be regularly cleaned and sanitized between users because they are stand alone structures rather than spread throughout a building. Because activity areas such as archery or arts and crafts are separate it is easier to track and sanitize shared equipment and materials between users.
It is easier to mandate individual water bottles rather than shared drinking fountains.

I would say that if you can not keep kids safe at sleep away camp then it is impossible at school. There are too many advantages of the camp setting that schools simply do not have.

The article only discusses positive test results but not clinical status. It's probably too soon to know, but it'll be important to determine how many of these kids remained asymptomatic, had mild symptoms at home, were hospitalized, were transferred to an ICU, etc.

Just say KEEP THE SCHOOLS CLOSED.

Just tack it on to any old statement.

- Open the schools SAFELY during a raging pandemic
- SAFELY run the bus routes and bring the untested schoolchildren SAFELY to school
- SAFELY have classroom teaching with exposed schoolchildren and vulnerable teachers

Take a drink every time you hear SAFELY in a Republican political ad.

every time, lol. I see what you mean though. I have been noticing it a lot too.

that’s not hyperbole.

It may be that children don't show symptoms as often as adults but can still carry and transmit the virus.
This would make it even more dangerous for school employees and parents.

The crap US administration rolled out the meme it was an old person's disease from the very start. Now all oliversudden, they're surprised young adults and kids are infected and spreading. Yeah, no one could have seen that coming. So, the school districts are in charge of how to open and teach, without extra funding. The schools are funded by property taxes. There will be so many foreclosures in August and September, it'll make heads spin, unless there's a miracle by Congress. Renters will be evicted... huge homeless camps already, now we're going to add millions to those camps, that are raided by cops weekly. So, here we are... Up shit creek, no paddle, no lifeline. How are they expecting to teach millions of homeless kids?

The idiocy of those in charge is staggering.

that are, well were, a huge success. I was an administrator and head teacher for our program. My staff was well trained and cpr certified. I haven't heard a word about these programs. Our program was vital for many kids. We also were trained in health screening and of course, mandatory reporters re child abuse. I personally did health screening at the opening of every school year- I was our school's lice check queen, lol. I don't believe many understand just how vital school programs are in monitoring child health issues. If we're going into the school year with minimal funding, (already under funded), leave the districts hanging for non-existent funds... This non school opening plan will bankrupt our schools and the before/after care programs will disappear. I am sure every principal in the nation has been furiously applying for fed grants... Wonder what the backlog time on those are...

This is what the msn.com article really says:

The campers were 85% of the total present.
If 85% were unmasked, they essentially did nothing.
They lied about following the guidelines.

but they can't come home (until they've been isolating for 2 weeks)

And no teachers, administration, or other staff over the age of 12 allowed

Bye klds

You think?

of why the f*** do we even have to debate this?

The camp DID NOT REQUIRE MASKS FOR THE KIDS!
This nonsense about their mitigation methods is BS.
80% of everyone there were maskless!
There was, therefore, essentially no mitigation plan!

I'm so tired of the CDC tossing their medical intuition in the trash can before making pronouncements about "it isn't transmitted this way."

Especially with something like COVID 19, it is a known means of transmission of similar illnesses - err on the safe side until proven otherwise.

get it. Why would kids be less likely to get it if it affects humans? Aren't kids just little humans? I wish someone with knowledge about this would put it in layman's terms for those of us who don't understand it.

It seems to have been based on the fact that there wasn't conclusive evidence that the virus is spread by children. However, there wasn't evidence to the contrary either. So they are essentially claiming a "default position" that the schools should be opened as usual due to a lack of evidence either way.

I believe this claiming of the default position to be fallacious, and the correct default position given our emergency situation should be an abundance of caution (i.e. that children will spread the virus thus schools should remain closed). So the burden of proof should be shifted back where it belongs: to those claiming they can safely open schools.

However we are in a fast-moving news cycle where science can be seen working in real time. Evidence that children can spread the virus is slowly trickling in, like that Georgia overnight camp mess.

I know it has to be hard with kids out of school since earlier this year. This feels so much like an experiment, sending them back now. Some states will try to enforce distance learning and/or social distancing, but some states will just throw them all back in there together. I'm expecting a nightmare scenario that is going to affect all of us horribly.

That children just like anyone of any age could have covid 19 and spread it, whether symptomatic or not. Children are usually key spreaders of viruses etc at schools.