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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstwo GOP candidates claim to be Rangers in campaign ads
John James, running for Senate in Michigan, and Bryant Messner, running for Senate in New Hampshire have both claimed to be Rangers in campaign ads.
The Washington Post, and to some extent the U.S. Army itself, have called shenanigans on these claims.
Both men are Ranger School graduates. However, they did not serve in a Ranger Battalion. To the general public, and even service members outside of the Ranger community this sounds like a distinction without a difference.
Ranger School is a two-month-long course that teaches leadership and infantry tactics and is available to any qualifying soldier in the Army to attend. As an Army school, it falls under Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC). The 75th Ranger Regiment is a special operations direct action unit that falls under Special Operations Command (SOCOM) and includes three battalions and several support elements. Service in the Ranger Regiment requires graduating from the Ranger Assessment and Selection Program (RASP). Not all members of the Ranger Regiment are Ranger School graduates but those in leadership positions are.
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So can John James and Bryant Messner claim to be Rangers because they graduated from Ranger School or is this some type of Stolen Valor? According to the Army and in the interest of accuracy, both can justifiably make the claim that they are "Ranger qualified" meaning that they completed Ranger School and earned the black and gold Ranger tab. Simply claiming that they were Rangers may come across as a misrepresentation of their service since they did not serve in the Ranger Regiment.
Neither political candidates are telling outright lies, but rather are saying something that may irk the relatively small community of Ranger Regiment veterans.
https://connectingvets.radio.com/articles/would-be-politicians-claim-to-be-rangers-but-are-they
BGBD
(3,282 posts)is essentially a leadership course and standard for most combat arms officers.
You aren't a ranger because you went to ranger school. You are a ranger when you pass RASP and airborne school and serve in the 75th.
louis-t
(23,296 posts)Wild-eyed conspiracy theorist and serial liar.
woodsprite
(11,917 posts)I thought my nephew was moving pretty fast going from Basic directly to Ranger. He just finished basic and had started Jump school, after that, on to Ranger school. He was leading a 9-mile hike w/ full packs and gear 2 wks ago at Ft. Benning and suffered severe heat stroke. When they removed his gear, stripped him down and laid him on the ground to ice him, his group didn't realize they had laid him on top of a fire ant mound. When they got him to the hospital, they said his body temp was 108 and he was covered with ant stings. They just released him from the hospital and told him he is confined to barracks for 2 months and he's not allowed to do anything physical or taxing, no exercise, etc. Apparently they will reevaluate his ability to move forward with the path he's chosen. Apparently at temps of around 108, you can have brain and organ/system issues.