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riversedge

(70,260 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:40 AM Aug 2020

The "Squad" is about to get bigger.

Congrats to Cori Bush.



08/05/2020 12:21 am ET



Progressive Challenger Cori Bush Unseats Rep. Lacy Clay In Missouri



The “Squad” is about to get bigger.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cori-bush-victory-missouri-democratic-primary_n_5f29e000c5b656e9b0a17444


Progressive challenger Cori Bush defeated Rep. William Lacy Clay in the Democratic primary for Missouri’s 1st Congressional District on Tuesday, adding to the activist left’s winning streak. The primary win in one of the most Democratic House seats in the country assures Bush’s spot in the next Congress.

Bush’s success follows an attempt to unseat Clay in 2018, when he won by nearly 20 percentage points.

But this cycle, with more endorsements, cash and name recognition ― a star turn in the Netflix documentary “Knock Down the House” helped ― Bush appears to have caught Clay by surprise. She outspent him on the TV airwaves in the final two weeks of the campaign.

“It’s a seismic shift in St. Louis politics,” said Jeff Smith, a former Missouri state senator who now runs the Missouri Workforce Housing Association. “Clay raised very little for an incumbent facing a serious challenge, and he paid the price.”

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Cori Bush’s victory over Rep. William Lacy Clay, a 10-term Missouri Democrat, is likely to send shockwaves through the Democratic establishment.



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The "Squad" is about to get bigger. (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2020 OP
Oh, heck yeah! nt mdelaguna Aug 2020 #1
k&r bigtree Aug 2020 #2
Clay was a sell out not an icon, opposed Obama's fiduciary rule. See # 39 below. grantcart Aug 2020 #43
I don't want a left version of the Freedom Caucus but it is good to know we are finally being heard bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #3
Why don't you North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #4
The more radical elements of either party bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #6
Agree. Good to have new blood, new thoughts & ideas onetexan Aug 2020 #7
Right, not a slam-dunk, but.... zentrum Aug 2020 #8
+1,000. Thanks. klook Aug 2020 #31
+1 Without a strong left, we are anchorless and keep drifting to the right. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #33
Well stated. Center-left will only occur and flourish KPN Aug 2020 #44
I don't know, North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #9
Yes, but the policy agenda still must please the voters at the polls, long term bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #12
Hoping so as well North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #13
I'm not tending to think of these people as 'radicals.' That seems to me to be a label. PatrickforO Aug 2020 #29
Post of the Month Ligyron Aug 2020 #47
++++++++! KPN Aug 2020 #49
Yes indeed. They will profit shareholders while at the same time PatrickforO Aug 2020 #52
Oh, I didn't at all mean it as an add Patrick. I would never KPN Aug 2020 #56
You said what I believe, only so much better. scipan Aug 2020 #61
I agree, and with Biden I feel we're being heard Victor_c3 Aug 2020 #11
Well, It's good to have hope... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #15
I lulz'd KG Aug 2020 #21
same here...the Freedom Caucus splintered the right.. samnsara Aug 2020 #30
Huh? Oh I see, that explains all the gop Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #51
Clay was a sell out, opposed Obama's fiduciary rule. See # 39 below. grantcart Aug 2020 #42
It may just stay the same size judeling Aug 2020 #5
Starting to feel proud of my former state! MoonRiver Aug 2020 #10
Why is it a "seismic shift" ? It's a deep blue district with a congressperson who'd held the octoberlib Aug 2020 #14
Exactly. Your observations are astute. Your analysis is succinct. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #16
The hyperbole drives me nuts. According to a Lacy supporter, Lacy was absent octoberlib Aug 2020 #20
Yeah It's all Clickbait . The same shit is happening with MArkey and Kennedy in MAssachusetts JI7 Aug 2020 #22
Yep. Another good example. octoberlib Aug 2020 #28
The first Black woman to serve in MO in Congress BlueWI Aug 2020 #24
The first Black woman is a huge accomplishment and she worked hard and ran octoberlib Aug 2020 #27
A 0.01 on the Richter scale GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #38
Not a seismic shift. Not a fan of the "Squad" but Clay was a sell out see # 39 grantcart Aug 2020 #41
Didn't know about that. Claire McCaskill tweeted that Clay sided with octoberlib Aug 2020 #46
I didn't know about it until someone mentioned it last night on MSNBC grantcart Aug 2020 #54
Just left a comment. I'll try to find the tweet. octoberlib Aug 2020 #57
Clay is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus mathematic Aug 2020 #17
Similar to the Ayanna Pressley win in Massachusetts bottomofthehill Aug 2020 #18
Kinda like Tipernini campaiging side by side with Anita Malik in AZ 6 in 2018, them both losing vsrazdem Aug 2020 #19
why did she do that? Celerity Aug 2020 #23
Because all she cared about was winning, and stabbing a friend in the back apparently vsrazdem Aug 2020 #25
How was she able to win if she isn't even from there ? JI7 Aug 2020 #26
She lives in a different district, and apparently the rules do not require her to live in the vsrazdem Aug 2020 #37
but why did people there vote for her over others ? JI7 Aug 2020 #48
Clay was a sell out grantcart Aug 2020 #39
:) The Trid will once again become a Quad in a Hortensis Aug 2020 #32
I hope you are correct that she will be joining murielm99 Aug 2020 #36
This bit from Twitter isn't a great sign, but hope, hope. Hortensis Aug 2020 #45
The Party's Fab Five. ancianita Aug 2020 #34
I like that there will be "new blood"/new thoughts. More diverse thought helps in formulating more iluvtennis Aug 2020 #35
I'm good with this... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #40
The antipathy toward the Squad shown by some is just depressing. marmar Aug 2020 #50
Outspoken women of color. Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #53
We need more than energy and ideas. murielm99 Aug 2020 #58
Who says they aren't? marmar Aug 2020 #59
Your pronoun use there is confusing. murielm99 Aug 2020 #60
And Talib was reelected in a landslide. nt jalan48 Aug 2020 #55

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
2. k&r
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:49 AM
Aug 2020

...I'm always reminded of other influential legislators who replaced icons in our history.

Like Charlie Rangel replacing Adam Clayton Powell decades ago.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
3. I don't want a left version of the Freedom Caucus but it is good to know we are finally being heard
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:57 AM
Aug 2020

and I hope the left engages tactically, prudently, and effectively with the mainstream Democratic center to get things done, because that is how we will be measured at the polls in subsequent elections.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
6. The more radical elements of either party
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:27 AM
Aug 2020

don't get to see their proposals enacted into law. They have to compromise with the majority in the center, or the other party. We'd have to see 1932 magnitude Congressional shift to pass legislation that is far left, and while I'm hoping Trump is the new Alf Landon, i doubt the Senate, with a slim Democratic majority - if we win one - will go along. At some point practicality must be considered.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
8. Right, not a slam-dunk, but....
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:33 AM
Aug 2020

....it's essential to have a solid left wing at the back pushing the center to be more progressive.

It exerts influence, pressure and a model of the world that makes the ultimate compromise, when it comes, be more in favor of working people over corporations.

We need a center-left. Not a center-right. Especially now.

klook

(12,160 posts)
31. +1,000. Thanks.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

We need the full spectrum of voices, and a place for all Democrats in the tent.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. +1 Without a strong left, we are anchorless and keep drifting to the right.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:16 AM
Aug 2020

The eagle can't fly with two right wings.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
44. Well stated. Center-left will only occur and flourish
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:49 AM
Aug 2020

when there is a stronger left. There is also a substantial difference between left and radical. In the context of today’s social and economic structures, left is not radical. It is balanced. We need a center-left Congress, not a center left party to fully achieve balance, again, in today’s context.

North Shore Chicago

(3,321 posts)
9. I don't know,
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:33 AM
Aug 2020

seems like the Tea Party paved the way for the trump party. What happened to the main stream Republicans?
I want to believe that compromise with the other side of the aisle was the prudent thing to do, but these trump years have jaded that prospect for me. We know what this country needs and doesn't need, and frankly I will support anyone who stands up for everyone.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
12. Yes, but the policy agenda still must please the voters at the polls, long term
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:41 AM
Aug 2020

or there will be a day of reckoning. Like the Tea Party and Trump are, hopefully, about to experience.

PatrickforO

(14,585 posts)
29. I'm not tending to think of these people as 'radicals.' That seems to me to be a label.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:55 AM
Aug 2020

For me, the question is, "does this person reflect the constituency they serve or are they just an idealogue?"

If the answer to that is yes, they do serve their constituents, then the follow ups are, "How responsive are they to their constituents? Are they somehow beholden to big lobbies, or are they relatively free of that corruption? Do they advocate sensible things that would actually make life better for their constituents and their families?"

Things like expanded Social Security and Medicare, healthcare, infrastructure improvements, more affordable college, reversing the destructive and short-sighted Republican tax cuts, and so on.

What we really need is a government that responds to us, and implements laws and policies that make our lives materially better, as opposed to towing the line for billionaires and corporations.

It has always bothered me, as an economist, that just a few decades ago, corporations paid in around 35 cents of every income tax dollar the government collected, while individuals like you and me paid in around 45 cents. Now, thanks to feckless Republican tax policy, individuals like us pay 86 cents of every dollar our government collects while corporations only pay 6 cents. That is unsustainable, and reflects the right-wing neocon/neolib agenda of deregulation, privatization, and gutting of all government programs but defense so we can build an American empire.

That ideology was the whole purpose behind the grossly negligent 2017 tax cut for billionaire parasites and corporations. And look what has happened because of it - Trump cut the pandemic response team. There was a paper out, written for Republicans in Congress, about how expensive unemployment is. Think about that for a minute in light of what's going on now.

But we have a shiny new space force, and a really well funded 'defense' program, complete with increases that call for government spending in the red.

This is my gripe - if we truly have a government that is 'of, by and for' the American people, then that government needs to use our tax dollars that we pay in for programs that materially benefit us, including some massive social justice initiatives.

What was it that O said? There's a 'fierce urgency in now?' There is. As MLK Jr. said in his letter from Birmingham Jail, often 'later means never' and justice delayed is justice denied.

I make this point because this deal about 'radicals' unseating moderates in primaries is media blather. They do love to divide us. In fact, if you read your Zinn, the powers that be have been using 'divide and conquer' strategies for centuries. Race, ethnicity, immigrants, Islam, unions, government workers - all under the gun. I get such a kick (not really) about when Republicans rip off pensions of government workers, and then right-wingers spew out talking points that say, "Good! Now those government people will have it like we do!"

Man, that's EXACTLY where they want us to be. Envying and mistrusting one another. Because what all workers ought to be saying is, "Wait a minute. There can be no profits without us. We want better pay and defined benefit pensions. We want the shareholder primacy doctrine diluted so that the interests of workers, communities and the environment are held equal to those of shareholders."

Alas, we've been dumbed down. We really have. Most Americans can't name even ten African countries, and some are so ignorant they cannot even pick out our own country. And THAT is also EXACTLY where the oligarchs want us to be. Dumb, docile and fearful of each other - easy to intimidate into wage slavery while the oligarchs proceed, as they have been, in stripping our treasury bare.

So, this doesn't seem to me to be a battle between radicals and moderates, but rather the pendulum swinging back a bit in our favor from these corporations and billionaires. AOC says that every billionaire is a failure in policy, and she is quite right.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
49. ++++++++!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:01 AM
Aug 2020

Thank you for taking the time to make an important and often missed point so such a cogently and completely.

One additional observation I might humbly add if I may: “the oligarchs are“ also “proceed[ing], as they have been, in stripping our” environment “bare”.

PatrickforO

(14,585 posts)
52. Yes indeed. They will profit shareholders while at the same time
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

making this very planet uninhabitable for humanity. Thanks for the add!

KPN

(15,647 posts)
56. Oh, I didn't at all mean it as an add Patrick. I would never
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:08 AM
Aug 2020

presume to improve on your post. It was absolutely perfect as it was. I only used quotations to credit you for your words. It was a wonderfully spot on post.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
11. I agree, and with Biden I feel we're being heard
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:36 AM
Aug 2020

The way that Biden has added and used ideas from more progressive politicians like Sanders and Warren with his advisory boards, has really convinced me that progressives have a voice in this party.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Well, It's good to have hope...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:47 AM
Aug 2020
I hope the left engages tactically, prudently, and effectively
Well, It's good to have hope...

Voltaire2

(13,095 posts)
51. Huh? Oh I see, that explains all the gop
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

crossover voting in Congress.

And also the stunning election victories from 2010-2016, and the rock solid 40+% support Twitler retains despite the mess he has made.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
5. It may just stay the same size
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:18 AM
Aug 2020

Omar could very well lose (the primary). I don't know if that will happen lots of cross-currents here. I just have no real feel for it ad that is very unusual for me.

Talked to a canvasser for the State Senate here in what should be Ilhan county. His first name is Omar and she told me that she is making sure to emphasize his full name to make sure people will take the literature.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
14. Why is it a "seismic shift" ? It's a deep blue district with a congressperson who'd held the
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:46 AM
Aug 2020

district for 20 years not putting in any extra effort. Complacency is doing these older members in. A seismic shift would be Bush winning a red district.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
20. The hyperbole drives me nuts. According to a Lacy supporter, Lacy was absent
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:25 AM
Aug 2020

from his district , was having problems raising money and what money he did raise wasn't used effectively on ads etc. These incumbents need to start taking their challengers seriously. The squad is still small , though and won't be able to get anything through the Senate. They're not taking over anything.










JI7

(89,259 posts)
22. Yeah It's all Clickbait . The same shit is happening with MArkey and Kennedy in MAssachusetts
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:31 AM
Aug 2020

There is almost no difference between them on issues/policy . Kennedy has an advantage mostly because he is Kennedy and has a certain young energy that most of the later Kennedy generations did not have. But he isn't any better on issues than MArkey .

And the end result will be the same .

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
24. The first Black woman to serve in MO in Congress
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:32 AM
Aug 2020

is a seismic shift - a younger generation with direct ties to the BLM movement defeats a 20-year incumbent.

Give credit where credit is due. Running and winning is a brave act for any young woman of color in this toxic national climate. Too many Democrats have been hesitant to support a truly progressive agenda, to the detriment of conditions in a city like St. Louis.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
27. The first Black woman is a huge accomplishment and she worked hard and ran
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:41 AM
Aug 2020

an effective campaign. As far as the progressive agenda, Lacy was a member of the Progressive Caucus. He took his seat for granted and lost.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
46. Didn't know about that. Claire McCaskill tweeted that Clay sided with
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:53 AM
Aug 2020

Missouri Republicans on their gerrymandering plan which guaranteed him a safe seat but screwed over other Missouri Democrats. Votes have consequences.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
54. I didn't know about it until someone mentioned it last night on MSNBC
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:05 AM
Aug 2020

I speculated here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213857598

that he didn't get money for his sell out but probably got a GE agreement.

Favorable redistricting would do that.

Your comment on that thread would be useful

Thanks for the info

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
17. Clay is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:56 AM
Aug 2020

I'm actually more than a little surprised that Clay's fellow progressives endorsed his competitor. Just seems like something you don't do to a political ally.

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
18. Similar to the Ayanna Pressley win in Massachusetts
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:10 AM
Aug 2020

Replaced one of the most liberal/progressive members of Congress with another Liberal/progressive. New blood. New ideas, sort of yes, but no real ideological shift in the voting make up of the Congress.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
19. Kinda like Tipernini campaiging side by side with Anita Malik in AZ 6 in 2018, them both losing
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:22 AM
Aug 2020

and then Tiperneni sticking it to her by deciding that it would be easier for her in 2020 to win in Malik's district where Malik has lived her entire life, and Tiperneni never even moved into the district. That win was pretty bitter for me.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
25. Because all she cared about was winning, and stabbing a friend in the back apparently
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:35 AM
Aug 2020

was a minor price to pay.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
26. How was she able to win if she isn't even from there ?
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:40 AM
Aug 2020

Did the people in the district know she isn't from there ?

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
37. She lives in a different district, and apparently the rules do not require her to live in the
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:30 AM
Aug 2020

district she represents. Go figure.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. Clay was a sell out
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:34 AM
Aug 2020

He opposed Obama's fiduciary rule that would require financial professionals to sell their clients products that are best for their clients as opposed to what gives them the best commission.

This is the first question you are asked in any state licensing exam and it basically means you shouldn't cheat your clients.

It is universally held as the basic tenet of professional ethics for financial professionals but state enforcement is non existent. Making it a federal rule would have a dramatic impact.

Clay joined Republicans in opposing it and stunned all his "allies", it allowed the Republicans to say that their opposition was "bipartisan".

How basic is this rule to good business? When I heard my "boss" (we are actually independent) say that he couldn't survive in the business if the rule was enforced I immediately ended my 14 year association and lost 4 months of income to find an alternative network. I don't want to be in the same room with anyone who can't support this basic rule, its hardly radical.

I don't know how but Clay clearly got some kind of a pay off for this move and all of the Progressive Caucus knew it for what it was. Not a big fan of the "Squad" but happy for them to have one more and get rid of scum like Clay.


How good was this rule for the good guys and how bad was it for the bad guys? When Trump became President it was the very first Executive Order he signed after his Inauguration.

This wasn't a victory of a Progressive over a Progressive but a Progressive over a crook.













Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) The Trid will once again become a Quad in a
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:14 AM
Aug 2020

"display of progressive might."

I'm frankly disappointed to find Cori Bush was a supporter of Sanders' anti-democratic populist tactics during the 2016 Democratic primary, including accepting being used by Russia to elect Trump. I was hoping she would be another John Lewis and Katie Hill-type Democrat. (Could have been; dissident groups have learned to endorse people who aren't really one of them in order to be able to claim wins.)

Obviously not. But, oh well. The voters have spoken.

We currently have 235 Democrats out of 435 in the house, and the big issue is if our majority over the Republicans will remain strong enough in 2021. Our Democratic House Progressive Caucus will of course still be very large part of our whole. And despite 2016, it's possible Ms. Bush will be joining it instead of the Trid once she's a member of congress, as Ayanna Pressley did.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. This bit from Twitter isn't a great sign, but hope, hope.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:50 AM
Aug 2020



She may experience a great enlightenment as she sees what she's become part of, certainly no resemblance to the propaganda of some of her endorsers, and become a devoted protector of her constituents' sovereignty.

To have good government, we have to elect good people. As basic as it gets.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
35. I like that there will be "new blood"/new thoughts. More diverse thought helps in formulating more
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:17 AM
Aug 2020

well rounded policies.

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
40. I'm good with this...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:36 AM
Aug 2020

the Dem party has been getting a bit old and calcified. We need new blood. Bush sounds like a bright, dedicated woman.

marmar

(77,084 posts)
50. The antipathy toward the Squad shown by some is just depressing.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:01 AM
Aug 2020

They've brought much-needed energy and ideas to the Democratic Caucus, and like it or not, they are the future of the party. But constant condescension on a lot of these DU threads.





murielm99

(30,749 posts)
58. We need more than energy and ideas.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 02:26 PM
Aug 2020

They need to be present and working, like Lauren Underwood. She is more the person I see as the future of the party.

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