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JT45242

(2,282 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:56 AM Aug 2020

October surprise -- courtesy of Cy Vance

Is it too much to hope that the real October surprise given the responses about the Trump corp taxes would be an October indictment of the following: Don Jr, Ivanka,Jared, Eric, (maybe the other spouses/grilfriends) the corporation, and UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR #1 for tax fraud, bank fraud, money laundering, and RICO.

A separate misdemeanor plea deal for the accountant if he testifies truthfully in court against every member of the family.

UI#1 could be described as the CEO of the Trump Corporation who had residence in NY at the time of most of the crimes but now lists legal residence in Florida with a mailing address in the District of Columbia.

8 weeks is plenty of time to get a grand jury.

They could send some of NY finest with arrest warrants to arrest the kids and wives. Might even be a nice photo op.

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Aristus

(66,434 posts)
1. Is there any possibility at all that that would land Trump some sympathy votes?
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:57 AM
Aug 2020

I wouldn't have thought so, but our country really has passed through the looking glass lately...

2naSalit

(86,691 posts)
12. Doubt it...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020

How many more family members of We the People will have died by then? That's going to be a clear and present factor.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
7. He's given passes to Trump crime family members before.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:21 AM
Aug 2020

Do they have dirt on him? Maybe. New York Democrats were way too cozy with orange asshole when he was "The Guy" to hang out with and get donations.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. I wish! But, besides Covid, that won't happen then because it would be
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:20 AM
Aug 2020

seen as a political attack on a political candidate right before an election. Those battling to save our ethics and institutions from others determined to destroy them don't have the luxury of joining in the destruction.

That said, if things got bad enough... It's believed that, if Russia chooses the very dangerous (for them) course of active subversion of the elections themselves rather than mostly just mind-fucking voters, we'll see the indications somewhere in early October. However, Russia's strategy involves destroying faith in the elections, as well as us, once again arguing against actions giving aid to that effort.

The Kremlin’s more appealing strategy appears to be the pursuit and sustained subversion of the upcoming election and American democracy as a whole. On the propaganda and disinformation front, they’ve already ramped up predictions of widespread election rigging and fraud via mail-in balloting, building on the election rigging narratives they’ve promoted since the Iowa caucuses. GRU hackers might, like 2016, take shots at voter rolls and election machines, but this seems less likely in the face of an American cyber response this time around.

This leaves Election Day. If the polls aren’t close, and a Biden victory seems likely, the Kremlin could get really evil. ... Russia could conduct pin-prick hacks in key battleground states to muddy the voting results either at polling places or amongst reporting media outlets. Maybe shut off the power, disabling poll sites in key battleground states. Simultaneously, they could instigate witting and unwitting allies in America to storm polling places, incite violence or contest election results—Kremlin operatives were connected to a similar scenario during Montenegro’s 2016 parliamentary election. ... encourage President Trump to remain in the White House post-inauguration ... Kremlin trolls would amplify all such chaos on social media and confuse the American public, helping to shatter voter confidence in the true outcome of the election.

For Russia, this would be a bold maneuver, one that would necessitate an American response that could be very costly over the long term. But Putin might feel just emboldened enough to pursue it, depending on a mix of domestic and international factors. In the latter doomsday scenario, if 2020 goes like 2016, we should watch for the Kremlin to signal its chosen course of action in early October, roughly a month before votes are cast. ...

https://www.fpri.org/fie/election-2020-russia-china/

(Should have said "final" votes.)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. For sure, but could further suppress the vote. People too ignorant
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:26 AM
Aug 2020

to know what to believe in are easily discouraged. As we saw in 2016. 40 million mind-fucked and feckless nonvoters thinking, and/or pretending to think, there was no real difference between Democrats and Republicans.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
10. If one hasn't figured out Trump is a crook yet....
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:30 AM
Aug 2020

....they are literally too stupid to vote. They probably aren't even registered they couldn't find their polling place.

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