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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStaff meeting Zoom call today - we're going back in in two weeks
Weve been teleworking since St. Patricks Day until the beginning of July. Im basically in my office in one part of our building by myself.
Staff conference call this morning. I wasnt sure if they were sticking with the proposed plan. They are. Next week and the next are all teleworking. August 24th everyone back in. Monday to Friday all day like, you know, work. I have just been going in two days a week since the beginning of July. An administrative presence they called it.
My wife isnt happy about this. She probably wont be going back in (corporate world) for the rest of the year. We just ordered her a permanent desk and chair and are making one of the extra bedrooms into her full time office. Shes been working out of our library the last 5 months. We should have done this a while ago. I work from my recliner in the main room of the house - TV room - its called a laptop for a reason. 😁
I work in the public sector and we have been providing services virtually. I understand the need to show our relevance and that we need to continue being employed. Well see. My boss thinks we are going to go back to some sort of virtual and teleworking not too long from now. I may need to start searching for other positions just in case. Sort of the low man on the totem pole again. Started back at this place 5 weeks before they closed the office for the pandemic. Id been there previously for a few years.
Well I guess Im packing a lunch and eating in my office soon.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)nuxvomica
(12,434 posts)My boss was telling me today that he has to remind people to take time off because we're still stuck in that mindset that "going to the office" is the actual "work" part, even though our group has actually had a slight uptick in productivity since WFH starting March 9. We're WFH at least through the end of the year now. Damn we are lucky to be able to do this.
underpants
(182,848 posts)From the get go. I was pushing the conversation on this and we had some people blowing it off. This was in February. I kept pushing it and then we got word from higher up that they had a plan. All the naysayers literally sat up. It got their attention. Id been pushing on this for a good two weeks.
JustAnotherGen
(31,834 posts)We are in NJ - we started with 25% of staff in the office in mid may. That's a shortened day - staggered arrival. Three days a week.
July - 30-40% in the office - same shortened day/staggered arrival. 5 Business days in the office then five WFH - rotating.
Our restrooms, office, etc. etc. - everything has plexiglass, we have a nurse checking us when we walk in.
Our production teams had their lines doubled to create social distancing, plexiglass in between stations, staggered arrival, staggered breaks, and two shifts (we normally do one).
We build cloud servers so we haven't taken our foot off the gas the entire time. Down time was very low as we have been considered essential since day one - but the closed days were really to make our office, production and warehouse facilities all plexiglassed, check the ventilation, deep cleaners, uv cleaning, etc. etc.
They better give you ppe - like I get mask if I don't have one when I arrive to work, temp check, sanitizer all over the place etc. etc.
They are taking one hell of a risk if you don't HAVE to be there. Lets put it this way - my Analysts are not in the office. I see no need - and they aren't leadership interacting with other leadership. Over my dead body are they coming back in.
underpants
(182,848 posts)We do have PPE everywhere and as I posted below they redid the AC so it doesnt recirculate.
JustAnotherGen
(31,834 posts)Should be half in the office, half work at home - rotating.
nilram
(2,893 posts)And suggest that others do the same.
If you get to close the door, keep it closed.
Ask if they can turn up the air replacement on any central air/heating.
Apologies for the unsolicited advice, but this is from stuff Ive been reading lately.
underpants
(182,848 posts)No recirculation. In, cool, and vent out. We got our electric bill and were like NO ONES BEEN HERE then we realized that it was from the new AC set up.
Right now only one of us is in the office in our area. A few times weve overlapped and theres the shootout stare down as I call it where two people pause and we figure out whos going where.
nilram
(2,893 posts)Theres actually efficient heat-recovery systems now, I think theyd work on cool also. But that would be a big overhaul to the AC system. I wonder if the AC industry is thinking of that.
blaze
(6,367 posts)Most systems are designed for a 20 to 25 degree air temp drop... So if it's 80 degrees outside, the air coming out of the vents should be around 60 degrees. But if you have toasty days, it could be a much different story. Hope it works out okay.
underpants
(182,848 posts)Big building too. Our power bill increased quite a lot.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)and we have a spacious new office building where almost everyone has nice offices.
Our company is not going to risk it...best job I have ever had.
underpants
(182,848 posts)We dont have elevators. Everything on ground level. Elevators are a serious headache from what Ive read and heard. Apparently Medical College of Virginia downtown is a nightmare with the elevators, a doctor told me.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)underpants
(182,848 posts)We do provide services and if we dont provide those services it may be determined that we arent needed anymore or at least not in the same number of staff.
Its really about providing services. We actually kept going during this via virtual. Pretty impressive flexibility and resourcefulness to do that.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I'd hoped that everyone able to work from home would continue to do so, not only for covid safety, but to save time, money, & carbon emissions.
Stay safe!!
roamer65
(36,745 posts)We are downsizing to a much smaller satellite office.
underpants
(182,848 posts)She does NOT want to go in. Given what she does theres really no reason for her to not work at home. Ill be surprised if she goes back in this year at all. I think a lot of organizations are going to rethink the standard office model now. Those community desk work space things are probably gone forever. Well see.
Having put together conventions that is an industry that could really get hurt. Hotels built for that are likely going to have to adjust. You can do conferences virtually even if you have a group of people in one room socially distanced and watched on a big screen.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)My wife hates it, because I have taken over her craft room. If she and my daughter clean out my daughters room on the second floor, Ill move up there. She is living with a boyfriend at his place.
underpants
(182,848 posts)Three people. 4 bedrooms and and extra room instead an open foyer over the front door.
My wife picked the room and Ive been trying to get her to move to one of the extra bedrooms.
We actually have an extra bedroom that we dont use for storage. Weve been really good about that.
Alex4Martinez
(2,198 posts)Seriously, good luck with return to work.
I hope masks, etc., are part of a new dress code and that the company is taking ventilation, etc., seriously.
underpants
(182,848 posts)Im in the office now. I have a box under my desk that I can kick off my shoes and put my feet up.
Yes. Masks are required. Lots of steps taken its just going to get crowded in here.
Hugin
(33,169 posts)It's poor management's traditional fall back.
The premise of the plan is something like this, screw everything up so badly, it's hard for the casual observer to miss how horribly you've screwed everything up. Then shrug your shoulders and say, "Well, mistakes were made and it's gotten too bad for us to pay the enormous price to fix. So, the only thing left to do is carry on exactly as we were before we messed everything up." I believe this is the plan at this point and it has been the plan almost since the beginning.
It's a kind of responsibility loophole that's used in the United States far too often. If it isn't, it should be a criminal offence.