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Post removed (Original Post) Post removed Aug 2020 OP
Yeah tman Aug 2020 #1
ignore stumpy hes toast..we all do gaffes.. at least joes gaffes arent deadly.. samnsara Aug 2020 #2
He clarified soothsayer Aug 2020 #3
Thanks... Maxheader Aug 2020 #31
Yahoo ? Is that still a thing ? OnDoutside Aug 2020 #4
Seriously?? It is the 47th most used site in the world. USALiberal Aug 2020 #11
Yes, seriously, It's been years since I've heard of it. OnDoutside Aug 2020 #14
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #16
I really like Yahoo's home page. It is well thought out. The comments there is a sewer, Blue_true Aug 2020 #40
Reich-wing assholes on social security and disability Yeehah Aug 2020 #46
I wouldn't be surprised if many of them are Russian bots. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #49
Yahoo has suspended rusty fender Aug 2020 #52
I did a survey on Yahoo comments just yesterday. Blue_true Aug 2020 #53
Mostly just a bunch of Incels, MRAs, Racists and Russians on those message boards anymore. TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #12
Yup. ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #41
It's not as if DJT is gaffe-free... mwooldri Aug 2020 #5
on trump's Gaffe's.. "..he is not ok.." Cha Aug 2020 #47
if you vote for a racist pig you are a racist pig ! fuck trump stonecutter357 Aug 2020 #6
NO betsuni Aug 2020 #7
No ..... Iliyah Aug 2020 #8
No, next question SallyHemmings Aug 2020 #9
No. But I really don't care. StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #10
Nah CatLady78 Aug 2020 #13
Yes n/t Devil Child Aug 2020 #15
Of course you'd think that. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #26
Yes n/t Devil Child Aug 2020 #28
And still supporting your opinion with as much evidence as exists... LanternWaste Aug 2020 #51
No. Devil Child Aug 2020 #54
Unless there is proof that Biden was convicted of a felony, I don't give a shit. dalton99a Aug 2020 #17
Definitely something that's been trending on twitter the last 24 hours. Drunken Irishman Aug 2020 #18
Joe makes a lot of gaffes. God Bless him. He has to be aware of got ya journalism. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #19
that is exactly what Jim Clyburn said (and to all the NO people, even Clyburn said it was) Celerity Aug 2020 #56
Much ado about nothing Tennessee Hillbilly Aug 2020 #20
My heart goes out to Biden on this one. Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 #21
When Biden tells people to drink leach get back to me. SoonerPride Aug 2020 #22
Trump is an outright racist Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2020 #23
No and an awkward ally is better than a hateful enemy uponit7771 Aug 2020 #24
I will see if I can find it. Saw Bidens clarification. But, I never saw what he said. Anyone help? LizBeth Aug 2020 #25
Person, women, man, camera, TV. sarcasmo Aug 2020 #27
so...... BGBD Aug 2020 #29
Except, black people can be Latine violasays Aug 2020 #32
Yes BGBD Aug 2020 #44
True, but you don't say it. LeftInTX Aug 2020 #35
What? Is he supposed to be a rabid, spit slinging racist now? lunatica Aug 2020 #30
This isn't helpful violasays Aug 2020 #36
I'm very glad you're voting! lunatica Aug 2020 #37
Thank you for your welcome. I appreciate it violasays Aug 2020 #38
So you think he might be a racist? lunatica Aug 2020 #39
This is what I mean violasays Aug 2020 #42
My initial post was not a response to you lunatica Aug 2020 #43
I apologize for harshnness and misconstruing your intent violasays Aug 2020 #48
Hugs to you! lunatica Aug 2020 #50
Well, he is white. Dr. Strange Aug 2020 #55
Obviously. lunatica Aug 2020 #57
No...as for Stumpy....who gives two shits what he says...and what exactly is the point of this? Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #33
He should have just pointed out the diversity without comparing to African Americans LeftInTX Aug 2020 #34
Yes, pretty much. demmiblue Aug 2020 #45

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
31. Thanks...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:17 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Fri Aug 7, 2020, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)


Hopefully the explanation is accepted...I think he is smart enough to know what is wrong to say and right...A slip, nothing more.

Joe is for the people...a more humane leader in the big house...imagine that..



on edit..changed excepted to accepted...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. I really like Yahoo's home page. It is well thought out. The comments there is a sewer,
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 03:59 PM
Aug 2020

lots of right wingers that seem to do nothing but make comments on news items - Yahoo seem to respond to that by putting on a blindfold.

Yeehah

(4,587 posts)
46. Reich-wing assholes on social security and disability
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:49 PM
Aug 2020

have nothing better to do than pollute the internet.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
49. I wouldn't be surprised if many of them are Russian bots.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 05:24 PM
Aug 2020

Russia hacked into something like 3 billion Yahoo accounts a few years ago (sometime before the 2016 election).

Lots of people used Yahoo e-mail in the past, then switched years ago to Google and other options. So it wouldn't be surprising if many of those accounts had been forgotten by previous users.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. I did a survey on Yahoo comments just yesterday.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:08 PM
Aug 2020

I pointed out that unless Yahoo heavily moderate them, the company should get rid of them. Yahoo comments are a haven for racists, women haters, and religious bigots. They always seem to be there to post vile shit that stays up.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
5. It's not as if DJT is gaffe-free...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:01 AM
Aug 2020

Thighland? Maybe we can ask Stormy Daniels as to where this mysterious country is located. Apparently it might be near Thailand.

CatLady78

(1,041 posts)
13. Nah
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 09:11 AM
Aug 2020

I don't mean it as a diss on Joe at all, but the oppostion in this case is so spectacularly awful that most people inclined to vote for him at this point, would do so if he showed up for a rally drunk, in his pajamas and with a cat as his running mate.....
The people who are inclined to vote against him will find imaginary reasons for doing so anyway...

Which leaves that small % of swing voters whose mentality is largely incomprehensible - at least to me. Who knows what drives them...


 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. And still supporting your opinion with as much evidence as exists...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:37 PM
Aug 2020

Hence, your consistent use of 'n/t'

Does 2+2=22?
Yes, n/t

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
18. Definitely something that's been trending on twitter the last 24 hours.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:01 AM
Aug 2020

it's all a lot are talking about. African Americans trended for a big chunk of the day yesterday and today black voters is trending.

Joe needs to be careful with what he says. I don't think it's a big gaffe but the problem is that he is not doing a lot of events, so, these gaffes stand out more since they're often what we hear when he's mentioned. I don't think it'd be a big deal in a normal campaign but if he's going to do only one major interview every two or three weeks, and essentially go radio silent between that, he can't have these gaffes or that's what everyone discusses when he's actually in the news. Then eventually, that's all anyone ever hears.

The interview was a tough one. I'll give props to Joe for doing it but he struggled at times during it and, as they did with Trump's last interview, the media is going to focus on the areas that highlight most his struggle. Hopefully he can work on that because right now, it's the buzz of Twitter and while Twitter isn't everything, I do think it's a good representation of what people are talking about.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Joe makes a lot of gaffes. God Bless him. He has to be aware of got ya journalism.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:05 AM
Aug 2020

Most of his gaffes are on race. That's why an African American running mate is a necessity !

Celerity

(43,339 posts)
56. that is exactly what Jim Clyburn said (and to all the NO people, even Clyburn said it was)
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:06 PM
Aug 2020

Every single A-A pundit I saw on MSNBC and CNN (well over 10 or 15 by now) said it was a gaffe and most said he tends to make them on racial issues and (as you and Clyburn said), that is why he needs a black female running mate.

20. Much ado about nothing
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:26 AM
Aug 2020

The repugs ignore the real issues and waste their time on inane things like this that won't change anyone's vote.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
21. My heart goes out to Biden on this one.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:32 AM
Aug 2020

First generation Latin Americans can come from various different latin american countries in Central And South America. There is a tinge of pain sensitivity when we all get lumped into one one or two categories, assigned as Latinos or Mexican Americans, but we do our best to fall in place.

However, in that huge "diverse" group that Biden mentioned, we also have Latinos with strong African descent. And to complicate the issue, we also have other people with family origins that come from Europe. Argentina, for example. Very white.

So, the word "diverse" is subjective, especially when you have Black Americans who can claim the same connections to Latin America.

We are evidence of the melting pot.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
22. When Biden tells people to drink leach get back to me.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

there are no gaffes that Biden can do that trump trump.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
23. Trump is an outright racist
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:45 AM
Aug 2020

and has exactly zero credibility on the issue of race- from here to eternity. I'm not quite sure what to make of Biden's comment but I don't think he's a racist.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
29. so......
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:24 PM
Aug 2020

they are raising a fuss that Biden basically said Black voters aren't as diverse as Hispanic voters?

What's not true about that? Black voters vote 9:1 Democrat over republican, Hispanic vote share relies much more on their geographic location in the country and the nation of origin of their closest non native relatives. Hispanics in Florida are much more republican than hispanics in Texas, for example.


Let's put a little punctuation on this.

The congressional black caucus has 55 members......55 democrats and 0 Republicans. That means either black Republicans don't want to associate with organizations focused on black issues or those organizations think the republicans are too out of step with their issues to let into the group.

That doesn't suggest diversity. it suggests that there are major overarching issues among the group that influence voting behavior. you know, something like institutional racism, the thing Republicans say doesn't exist.

violasays

(50 posts)
32. Except, black people can be Latine
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:22 PM
Aug 2020

See: Gina Torres, Laz Alonso, Amara la Negra, and the late Celia Cruz.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
44. Yes
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:45 PM
Aug 2020

which is one of the reasons there is more diversity among that group.

I don't see this as insulting. Black voters should be voting as a bloc. If not there's no chance of them ever getting fair representation.

LeftInTX

(25,294 posts)
35. True, but you don't say it.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:33 PM
Aug 2020

It's a bit insulting to African Americans

Hispanics tend to be more socially diverse. It's like trying to court the Italian or Jewish vote. There tend to be alot of Republican Hispanics too. They're all over the place down here. South Texas. Cowboy and rancher types.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
30. What? Is he supposed to be a rabid, spit slinging racist now?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:33 PM
Aug 2020

Has he been fooling everyone, including the Obamas all along? Was his time as Vice President all just him working to destroy race relations? To undermine President Obama?

Paleeze! Some people need to get a life!





violasays

(50 posts)
36. This isn't helpful
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:51 PM
Aug 2020

I am casting my very first vote ever this fall and it will be for the VP. Like a lot of other people who turned 18 in an election year, I am very excited and while VP Biden was not my primary choice, I am all in. But you and others need to stop acting as if really unfortunate stumbles that he makes can't be discussed. No one is saying he's a "rabid, spit-slinging racist." He said something foolish. He realizes that and clarified. It helps no one to act as if he did nothing wrong and people discussing it are being problematic.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
37. I'm very glad you're voting!
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 03:02 PM
Aug 2020

It’s an excellent year for first time voters.

But you probably haven’t been around long enough to get it that all those so-called gaffes are, as Joe Biden would say, just malarkey. The Republicans have been making this shit up for longer than you’ve been alive.

I would be a bit more circumspect in how I tell long time Democrat’s to act. You’re on a political sight for Democrats. Defending the Democratic nominee for President is expected here.

violasays

(50 posts)
38. Thank you for your welcome. I appreciate it
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 03:21 PM
Aug 2020

However, I'm a young black woman. I have stated this elsewhere when I've engaged with fellow DUers. So I'm not really just talking to wag my Gen Z finger at long time Democrats. It is a friendly warning. Many of my friends and family, along with other people in the black community across the diaspora, were upset with the Vice President's statements. This is the third or fourth time he has had to clarify something rather silly he has said about black people.

The Vice President needs to be more careful in how he states things, particularly in regard to race. He has a young black staffer who has a high-level position. Her name escapes me, but I saw her often on AM Joy. I wish she would take him more in hand.

So your point is noted, and it was not my intent to be a scold. But I also hope you equally understand how I as a black Gen Z woman will have very strong and possibly very different opinions about comments made about my racial and ethnic group than those who are do not share those characteristics with me.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
39. So you think he might be a racist?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 03:28 PM
Aug 2020

He must have fooled all of us.

If every time he says something he has to prove he isn’t a racist he might as well just drop the pretense he’s kept up all his life AND especially as President Obama’s Vice President.




violasays

(50 posts)
42. This is what I mean
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:13 PM
Aug 2020

In no way do my words suggest that, but because I am saying he said something silly about black people, you are jumping to this conclusion.

Just a thought: Black people are allowed to speak our minds when non-black people say something silly about us. That doesn't mean pistols at dawn. That doesn't mean we think the person is to the right of HP Lovecraft as far as racism. It just means we are speaking our minds about someone saying something silly about us.

No sarcasm tag needed.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
43. My initial post was not a response to you
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:38 PM
Aug 2020

You have every right to react the way you do, but to tell me I’m not helpful because I’m reacting to the lies and spin put out there by a Republicans and the media is a waste of both out times. The Republicans have been doing this since Ronald Reagan started running for President. It’s old, very old underhanded methods to confuse the issue for young voters and their base.

In their determination to win they are quite willing to destroy their opponents. No lie is too putrid nor is any slur too despicable for them. They lie. They smear. They attack and they never stop.

If you allow them to influence you even a little they are thankless and they will use you and then empty your pockets and thwart you at every opportunity.

I have no patience for their tactics.

Having said that I want to apologize to you. I was needlessly harsh and wrong. I hope you accept my apology because I really am delighted that anyone your age is voting as a Democrat. And I also believe that your generation is going to save us from ourselves and you’re going to save the planet too. Welcome to DU. I’m proof that we can get pretty cantankerous during election years.

violasays

(50 posts)
48. I apologize for harshnness and misconstruing your intent
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 05:03 PM
Aug 2020

I think that for me, it is difficult to be taken seriously. I'm sure everyone felt that at 18, but not everyone had four years of Trump to contend with. Many people seem to think my generation is doing nothing but making Tiktoks, taking potshots at Millennials, and going on IG Live to overshare. I am absolutely serious when I say I feel life will be over if that Orange gherkin gets another term in the White House. I and others of my generation will have no future at all. That's why I am very concerned at setbacks. I know rationally not to worry about Kanye, etc, but I am so scared for what this country will be if Trump is reelected. So I just want the Vice President to stay the course and when he makes mistakes like this, it just frightens me, that's all. So much is at stake here. I know I'm preaching to the choir.

So, allow me to apologize to you. I am learning a great deal by being here, which is why I've tried to "Talk Less and Smile More" and absorb the wisdom from those Dems who have been doing this for a long time, but who also remember being my age and just hungry for change and a country to be proud of.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. Hugs to you!
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:32 PM
Aug 2020

You are more than welcomed here. We need you. The country needs you!

This is a good place to be. We are solid and we are determined and you’ll find a lot of incredibly smart DUers. We keep each other sane. In many ways we are as solid as family. I hope you’re here for many years!

LeftInTX

(25,294 posts)
34. He should have just pointed out the diversity without comparing to African Americans
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:26 PM
Aug 2020

Hispanics are extremely diverse.

It is good that he is working on outreach and realizing this immense task.
Many are not going to be moved by children in cages.

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