There will be lots of trolls out there trying to divide our party between left and center, old and young, BS and Biden. We have to drag everyone out to vote. I am voting absentee as soon as the ballot arrives. My husband us driving people to the polls, our niece who is 24 is training to be a poll worker to replace me. Doing what we can as a family.

the voting gap between now and November. Although he can and will certainly try very hard to sow dissension and doubt far and wide to convince people that any outcome that does not have him winning by a landslide is somehow fake.

company with his companions and base. I never thought there were so many wackos and F'ed up people in the US and government 'till Trump came along.

but, goddammit, i get being concerned because we all are, but the gist of this message is to what? rollover and take it? there are plenty of people in our country, us included on this forum, that are working hard to elect good representatives. we're also protesting in the streets.

identify the issue(s) and work the issues to solution - that's what we're doing. donnie's gonna cheat like hell - fuck him, Joe's gonna fight and run his own program and not spend the day chasing squirrels and hummingbirds and whatever else donnie is pointing to during each day's 'daily hate.'

voting for Biden to trump. Not one person and the 10 friends I have who voted for trump in 2016 all said that was a big mistake. The role of the media is to BREED doubt and suspicion in same way the Russian bots did in 2016. Preventing a tidal wave is what the media is going to try to do

I would focus my attention on what you can do to help get democrats elected

As much as he scares me, it's nothing compared to how much I detest and fear the brainless loons that are still supporting this monster.
I know we will never return to "normal" after the havoc this creature has created; and I am scared it will only get worse.
I can't wrap my head around the fact that there are so many who remain devoted to an obvious lunatic.

certainty that Biden will win. Period. No uncertainty,.


No doom and gloom as you seem to espouse and advocate. I will NOT follow you down this path of dismay and hysteria.


My sunshine is just around the corner in Nov. 2020 and will finally be out in its full glory Jan. 2021.

thank you

Lighting a fire under the complacent is not "gloom and doom", it is a necessary correction to overconfidence.

How do you take a warning that this election could still be lost if we're not careful as taking people "down the path of dismay and hysteria"? A little judgment and perspective and less hyperbole okay?

weekly posting on DU, claims that we are all overconfident, based upon on vague evidence of which none is provided other than a 'feeling' or they're 'paranoid' because they feel like what's happened in the past will happen again.

We have had two election cycles already where voter turnout blew predictions out of the water. The 2018 midterms where we gained control of the House of Representatives and recent elections held this year...here's what an election worker claimed in Michigan (where the republicans forced voters to vote in person instead of postponing elections):

Michigan voters blew the election “out of the water.” “Voters really showed up. They voted by mail and in person, and it demonstrated again that even in the midst of a pandemic, you could have a record turnout,” Benson said. “People want to vote, and it’s our job to make sure they can.”

And these are two examples of actual evidence of high voter turnouts that blow any claims of voter overconfidence clearly out of the water. And, IMHO, voters are damn eager to vote especially in the upcoming November 2020 elections. Wild horses couldn't keep millions and millions of voters from the polls, to express their extreme displeasure and hate w/ the current occupant in the WH for the first time in person.

The anger, hatred, and disgust at what rump has turned out to be in reality is there and voters are showing this. They definitely are GOTV and you can further see this by the decoupling of Senate and/or House republican candidates from all things rump (for the most part). As rump said, "I don't understand why voters hate him."

“Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what we are going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.”

We should not be complacent or naive. But feeding worry to those who already know what could happen is not helping. He and the other he are loving it.

That's a massive share of the electorate and it's what makes ordinary election year analysis difficult. Any incumbent and base effect Trump has is offset by the deep and widespread hatred of Trump that's unlike any other anti-incumbent sentiment in recent memory.

...yes trump* could steal it with some really dirty illegal tricks and it may go to the Supreme Court but if theres no clear Prez by a certain date.. then its President Pelosi...

We should keep our feet on the gas, work hard, keep the pressure on, defend Biden on social media platforms, get people registered to vote and get voting info out there and we must be CONFIDENT not nervous. We never do well when we're afraid of our own shadow. Look at any sports champion...it's a mental game and the Cons know how to play that game. A big component of winning is projecting that you're a winner...not over confidence, leave that to the Con Cult. They are certainly the overconfident side this time.

From what Tulsa witnessed between the Juneteenth celebrations and the Trump rally, I expect his goons to be hidden among us, vandalizing homes and cars with Trump signs or bumper stickers under the guise of BLM or ANTIFA, weeks before the election. 24-36 hours before the polls open I expect our boot-licking governor to close numerous polling places in minority areas and call out the NG, "to keep the peace".
I will be voting early, in person (don't trust OK mail carriers) at the election board. I will be driving others to that location for early voting and then to the polls on election day. But by the time polls close, I will be home, prepared and expecting the worst nationwide civil unrest in my lifetime.

Those midwestern states are now on the wrong side of the partisan index. That throws everything out of balance. A 7 point national lead looks good until you realize the break even point from an electoral college standpoint is 3-4, and not 0.

Basically there are many states in the ideological danger zone of 33-37% conservatives and we have to win all of them, except perhaps Florida. The aggressive states Biden is pursuing are very unlikely because their history is 39-44% conservatives. Democrats have not won a state with above 37% conservatives as far back as my records go.

Many posts and threads here recently did a huge misleading disservice by insisting Biden would receive 60-62% of the vote.

We are relying too much on vote-against and not vote-for. That limits the upside. You aren't going to persuade the fringe or reluctant voter. Nobody is going to rally around, "Come hate with me." If they don't hate Trump already it's not going to happen.

Do you think it throws a curve into the statistics you're citing?

Many people were so convinced Trump could never get elected. So some people went and voted for their dog, because Trump could never get elected, and they weren't too trilled with Clinton, but she was going to get elected anyway, right. And here we are.

we can raise out voices and donate money and finally we cn cast our ballots. But if people who are powerful don't want to fight for a clean and fair election, no amount of my worry will do a damn thing.

people with vested interests are always trying to whip up the masses with fear and loathing.

I knew Trump was wrong for America and donated and voted for Hillary Clinton.

Same thing this time.