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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:26 PM Aug 2020

Wearing a neck gaiter may be worse than no mask at all, researchers find (stretchy thin material)



In a recently published study, the researchers unveiled a simple method to evaluate the effectiveness of various types of masks, analyzing more than a dozen different facial coverings ranging from hospital-grade N95 respirators to bandanas. Of the 14 masks and other coverings tested, the study found that some easily accessible cotton cloth masks are about as effective as standard surgical masks, while popular alternatives such as neck gaiters made of thin, stretchy material may be worse than not wearing a mask at all.

https://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/Wearing-a-neck-gaiter-may-be-worse-than-no-mask-15475153.php

"Even very small particles can do this kind of (light) scattering," Warren said. "We were able to use the scattering, and then tracking individual particles from frame to frame in the movie, to actually count the number of particles that got emitted."

A fitted N95 mask, which is used most commonly by hospital workers, was the most effective, Warren said, noting that the mask allowed "no droplets at all" to come out. Meanwhile, a breathable neck gaiter, well-liked by runners for its lightweight fabric, ranked worse than the no-mask control group. The gaiter tested by the researchers was described in the study as a "neck fleece" made out of a polyester spandex material, Warren said.

"These neck gaiters are extremely common in a lot of places because they're very convenient to wear," he said. "But the exact reason why they're so convenient, which is that they don't restrict air, is the reason why they're not doing much of a job helping people."

The high droplet count could be linked to the neck gaiter's porous fabric breaking up bigger particles into many little ones that are more likely to hang around in the air longer, Fischer said in the video. This effect makes wearing them possibly "counterproductive," he added.

"It's not the case that any mask is better than nothing," he said. "There are some masks that actually hurt rather than do good."

Other types of face coverings that may fall into that category are bandanas and knitted masks, the study found. An N95 mask with an exhalation valve also failed to measure up.

"Those relief valves are fantastic if what you want to do is protect yourself from the outside world because air doesn't come in through them," Warren said. "If what you're trying to do in this pandemic is protect the outside world from you, it completely defeats the purpose."

Warren encouraged people to assess their face coverings with another basic test.

"If you can see through it when you put it up to a light and you can blow through it easily, it probably is not protecting anybody."

https://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/Wearing-a-neck-gaiter-may-be-worse-than-no-mask-15475153.php
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Wearing a neck gaiter may be worse than no mask at all, researchers find (stretchy thin material) (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2020 OP
I'm still in N95's SheltieLover Aug 2020 #1
N95 worked the best. LisaL Aug 2020 #6
Yes SheltieLover Aug 2020 #7
I use a neck gaiter Dave in VA Aug 2020 #2
Do you actually use a filter? Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #3
I think it's most likely the material of the gaitor that is making it worse than no mask at all. LisaL Aug 2020 #5
That wasn't really the point of my question - Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #8
Yes, we use a filter Dave in VA Aug 2020 #9
Yay! Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #10
Here's a link to the original research info... WePurrsevere Aug 2020 #4

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. I'm still in N95's
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:31 PM
Aug 2020

Ty for posting!

Perhaps mask mandates need to specifically exclude these as meeting requirements.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
7. Yes
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:36 PM
Aug 2020

Shame dotard didn't enact the DPA, so they are still almost impossible to get.

I read a lot, saw what was happening, & bought a small supply - in Feb.

Dave in VA

(2,039 posts)
2. I use a neck gaiter
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:57 PM
Aug 2020

with a pocket for a filter. Wonder if they considered these in their study. Interested to know.

Thanks for the post.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
3. Do you actually use a filter?
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:24 PM
Aug 2020

or is there just a picket there?

If the answer is no, the pocket itself won't add much protection - especially if it is the same fabric as the gaitor.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. I think it's most likely the material of the gaitor that is making it worse than no mask at all.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:33 PM
Aug 2020

Polyester spandex.
Not good.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
8. That wasn't really the point of my question -
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 11:11 PM
Aug 2020

I find most people who have filter pockets don't use them.

If that is the case, having a filter pocket (and not adding a filter) means it is not much better than not having a filter pocket.

As to the reason - I suspect it is more a combination of a knit fabric snugged up your mouth and nose where there isn't any distance for the force behind your speech or breath, so that force shoves the tiny droplets thorugh the fabric - breaking them up into even smaller droplets (bordering on - if not - aerololized).

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
10. Yay!
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 02:56 PM
Aug 2020

I make a lot of masks - and everyone wants a filter pocket. But I only know one who uses it (my SIL who works in a prison and who is not provided with PPE)

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
4. Here's a link to the original research info...
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:27 PM
Aug 2020
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083

I scanned it quick and it doesn't look like they considered this type. Hopefully they will soon instead of negating all gaiters completely without examining the updated versions.

I occasionally use a modified gaiter that has a pocket for a PM2.5 filter too. I use a filter but had to tweak the fit so it would loop over my ears and fit more snug on my head and nose better too. (Mind you I've also had to modify regular masks that were too thin and poorly fit to be effective too.)
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