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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho will stop Trump from stealing this election?
Since Barr has removed all oversight from the DOJ and Trump's crony has made sure the USPS is FUBAR.
Don't tell me we just have to GOTV. That is fine, but not if votes are flipped and mail in votes aren't counted.
It is apparent that Trump is pulling Banana Republic fascist shit now. How do we stop it? And what do we do if we can't?
We have to start think about this now.
Botany
(70,614 posts)Overwhelming # of votes.
doc03
(35,389 posts)it is what it is.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)to defeat fascism/ If we don't, the US will cease to exist and its OUR fault if it ends up that way
edhopper
(33,639 posts)that it is still too close.
I think a majority of Americans will reject him. But I don't see a big enough majority to feel safe.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)as INDIVIDUALS and quit the bullshit of expecting others to save our asses. If we go down fightin. at least we did fight and not go willing on the cattle cars to our demise.
Ifs fine to handwring and complain BUT for heavens sake we have to be involved. Our collective involvement has led america to this point. This story has an ending that WE can impact
kacekwl
(7,024 posts)they count. Guess what trump wins again. The supreme court and AG Barr have ruled. Here's a cup of tea for those who disagree.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)edhopper
(33,639 posts)kacekwl
(7,024 posts)Snoopy joy.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... no dem victory will change that.
For those things the kGOP should be investigated ... all of them
Also, without a senate win Moscow Mitch will allow the country to go down in flames without a hint of give a damn.
The Russians are kings at strategic retreats, a senate/house/White House win is needed to make sure MAGA is dead
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)help out at polling places to assist, no matter what the risk is to my health and COVID.
The bullshit must end
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)edhopper
(33,639 posts)if votes aren't counted.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)school openings compound, more institutions and voters respond - some good Dem things may happen unexpectedly.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... go without a president while the USSC Roberts Ran upholds laws and shit that Trump did before the election.
Trump will
- Send out Troops to hinder Americans from voting, there's nothing to stop Trump from doing this quickly (big kink in constitution)
- Slow down mail before the election, 500,000 votes weren't counted during primary due to late arrival
- Give polling data to The Russians so they know who to target on FaceBook, The Russians did this last time
- Stoke unrest and burn polling places down, yes ... he's an asshole.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)to do what is necessary.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... and let the country sit without a president for months.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)- the military will not do any such thing
- we have work arounds FOR any mai-in voting issues
- who gives a fuck about russia and facebook? You got to be an imbecile to be influence by anything posted on social media
- we make sure polling places are free and open and we do that by being there/
If you want the enemy to win? Roll over and give up. That is THEIR HOPE. I am not going along with it
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... ballots in all swing states that can't be altered by the federal government this second, Russia's facebook campaign helped 3rd party candidates last time so those who are informed of the efficacy of such campaigns do care.
Your last point is not based on reality in any way, I'm black ... I know damn well the polling places in all areas are not free and open when they're not existent or all the resources related to them are not working.
Do you live in the US?
Thx in advance
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)post...it only helps Trump.
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beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)- if private militias are sent in then we will see what state and local authorities will do or not
- mail in ballots do have alternatives depending on local rules, if early vote allowed in person, you do that, if ballots can b hand delivered you can do that
- 2020 is NOT 2016 and what was done in 2016 simply will not work in 2020 by russian bots and social media unless you are that ignorant to fall for the bullshit
- polling places are manned by people and volunteers so how many times have you acted as election judge or poll watcher over your years of voting?
I am an american and my family goes back almost 400 years of being in this country before US even existed. We have fought wars and died for our country, This is a war today, I am sacrificing my safety and will will work at polling stations this year as its a matter of our country surviving.
If every american thought this way, we will win
uponit7771
(90,367 posts).. irrelevant the efficacy of the tactic is the 17 yr old Shooter for instance,
Deflection, don't have to work at polls to know as a PoC I don't have equal access to them and kGOP pols in swings states have ... ALREADY ... made that situation worse.
Come on, I'm not into arguing how wet water is ... we need to be prepared that's my bottom line.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)by people telling them over and over ...that ' Trump is invincible" which he is not...no need to steal it...Trump can win. Most of the election shit Trump is spouting is to discourage Democratic voters...make them believe they can't win so why bother. Let's not help him.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... what we can do to overcoming them helps America.
Bengus81
(6,936 posts)And..I don't give a rats ass if Trump wants to bitch about a "rigged election" until the day he dies--which I hope is VERY SOON.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... but that's not in all states, I still can't find a drop off location in my state.
We need to be prepared for a fight
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rejected-mail-ballots/2020/08/23/397fbe92-db3d-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html
Bengus81
(6,936 posts)Filled it out the next morning and mailed it that day at the airport mailbox. It would have been at the election board at our County Court house the next day. It would have been in their hands at least 4.5 weeks before the election.
What people need to do is STOP tossing them aside and fill them out that day or early the next and get them mailed.
BlueWavePsych
(2,640 posts)edhopper
(33,639 posts)could you make it it's own thread?