i rarely find him funny

Nancy is there in the owner's salon being worked on by somebody who... works there.

they essentially rent spa ce from the landlord/brand owner. So they don't work "for" the owner, they rent space from the owner - and, to a large extent, are able to run their own business (and are responsible for compliance with compliance with the law.

Or perhaps a fine? I don't know what the parameters of the Covid rules are in California.

One of them (perhaps not knowing the rules) invites Pelosi into the salon.

The owner is responsible for the violation and is fined/closed down.

that the salon owner rented space to to other hairdressers (it's not unusual).

the owner of the salon indicates the stylist told her beforehand she was going to see Nancy Pelosi inside the salon. The owner dosen't mention telling the stylist that the changes to restrictions announced Friday did not apply to them. If the owner knew this was not allowed by city law why did she let the stylist do it anyway?
Here is the CNN article https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/02/politics/nancy-pelosi-hair-salon/index.html

who violated rules by taking Nancy as a customer but the shop owner is the one who would be fined (lots of salons rent out spaces to hairdressers).

knew that the stylist was going to bring Speaker Pelosi inside the shop before it happened. For some unknown reason the shop owner allowed the stylist to bring the Speaker into the shop then complained to Fox News afterwards.

she’s a big-ass Republican. Not surprised she ran to Fox.

If Democrats are going to advocate for responsible, science-based rules on dealing with COVID, then they need to abide by them. The City of San Francisco allows salons to operate only outdoors.

This incident will be in the RW "whataboutism" lexicon for all time and they would be right.

when you tell others to follow rules you need to follow them too otherwise it looks like you're a hypocrite who thinks you're better then others.

She is not Joe Biden who is actually running for President. While Trump is 'fiddling on the roof'...

And anyway, why wasn’t she wearing a mask?

No way I’d let anyone near me to cut my hair without one. Haven’t had a haircut since this crap started.

Her mask was around her neck. I suppose a client could wear a mask during a shampoo but it's just going to get wet and be rendered useless.

From the story I read, the stylist claims the salon owner had violated health rules back in April and did not like Pelosi's politics. In addition:

Went out to get soup or something after being possibly exposed.

Huge hullabaloo. Never heard anything of her since.

In 2014, after returning from Liberia, where she was in contact with a freelance cameraman who contracted Ebola, Snyderman and the remainder of her crew were asked to observe a voluntary 21-day quarantine to minimize the risk of further outbreak. After Snyderman was then seen inside a car, outside a local restaurant, in violation of the quarantine, the state of New Jersey issued a mandatory 21-day quarantine for Snyderman and her crew.

On March 12, 2015, Snyderman announced she had resigned her position as NBC's Chief Medical Editor due to the controversy over her breaking the quarantine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Snyderman

They are not allowed to operate indoors. No knowing is not a valid excuse.

This moral relativism crap has got to go.

COVID is a threat - it makes absolutely no difference that there was only one customer at a time. Mask off is mask off. The aerosolized droplets will be hanging out in the salong - whether there is one customer or several. It was a stupid decision by Pelosi to make her hair a priority over public health.

He has been for many years. He isn‘t about to change now, since the DNC isn‘t going to offer him money to get suddenly reasonable or objective.

If it had been Rachel Maddow who reported on it, would it have made it better?

...or have the work done in a city that allows it.

...her money on a local business, after all.

we must, must eat our own

in a position that forces us, if we're being sincere, to "eat" them. It's really no different than Trump saying he's always been an advocate for wearing masks then consistently not wearing one and not forcing those around him to wear one.

None of your exasperation and face-palming is going to change that. Look, we don't need to flay Speaker Pelosi for this but it is a mistake and it will cost us.

If Pelosi not wearing a mask outweighs that fact to anyone then we weren’t getting that person’s vote anyway

This false equivalence is sheer lunacy and bullshit

I’m surprised she did this, actually.

Makes no sense at all.

...darkening her door ever again. So much for keeping her business local — there are plenty of hairdressers in DC.

As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi is next in line to the POTUS, and she gets an equivalent federal security detail, iirc. What do you want to bet her security guys said it probably would not be all that safe for her to have her hair done in the parking lot, sidewalk, or other outdoor location? That certainly might have had something to do with it being indoors.

My gods.

the owner doesn't want to be stuck for a fine and violation for something she didn't do.

That the owner knew about it beforehand and did nothing to stop it.

1. Chris Cillizza is a pig.

2. Some in the media appear to be bored with the current state of the race.

3. Some at DU also seem to be bored with the current state of the race

The net impact of this on the election is 0.0.

Link to tweet

She’s one of the people saving our country! Fuck him and his gossip rag reporting.

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Rep Pelosi's stylist was not available, so the stylist referred her to someone else.

The referral stylist rents a chair at the salon in question. S/He doesn't own it.

Over the past weekend, it was all over local news that salons in the area could offer indoor services as of 8/31. Only three counties were still on outdoor services only as of 8/31. Unfortunately, it seems like the stylist didn't know that SF County was one of those three counties.

The stylist does not have a key to the salon, so s/he called the owner to ask for access on 8/31.

The owner, instead of telling the stylist that SF County still required that salons refrain from indoor services as of 8/31, asked the stylist who the client was.

(I'm guessing if it were the likes of Danielle Steel, or Marissa Mayer, the Monday appt would have been just fine with a nod and a wink from the owner.)

And since the owner is a Trumpette, she decided that her personal reputation in San Francisco didn't mean as much to her as a chance to be Fox Famous For Five Hot Minutes.

In closing, I'm betting the salon owner is probably getting ready to close her SF salon, and figures that her despicable actions will help her business where she actually lives - Fresno.

I thought the issue was Pelosi not wearing a mask

It would seem quite odd, how someone *just happened* to be recording the scant minutes she might have had the mask off... until the actual chain of events is reviewed.

Skanky Vanky, Melanoma, and Kimberly Perón seem to all have been receiving their frequent and regular hair and injection maintenance over the past six months.

but not others is completely irrelevant to the matter of public safety.

Pelosi is a grown-up and a lawmaker. She has a responsibility to understand whehter what she is doing is (1) safe and (2) legal.

Would we excuse this behavior by Ivanka - or be troubled by the fact that it seems to be a setup? If not, we should not be excusing it for Pelosi.

Whatever Nancy did, this is NOTHING compared to the massive crimes that the republicans have commited since they since they have been in power. NOTHING!

FUCK THEM! This is just another disgusting distraction from their crimes and I am sickened by those of you who are falling for this crap. I don't care what she did, honestly. I care about what they have done and are doing now which are the really important things we need to be focusing on. Not this petty, ridiculous bullshit!

Why the hell are so many willing to turn on our own and give them a pass every single time? It's sickening. Don't even give this shit the time of day. It's an absolute joke.

A quick scan of the threads suggests few would. A single standard applies - if it is wrong/a public health threat - so be it. We should be taking responsibilities for our mistakes, not screaming "setup

Whose side are you on anyway? She was set up and the right wing media ran with it. And that is who you choose to believe? SAD!

Further there is no "believe" about it - it is fact. She was in a salon, with someone she is not living or bubbled with, without a mask, in close enough contact for that person to wash her hair. Unless they are superhuman, that puts her closer than 6 ft away (and in my experience, between 1 and 2 feet).

I am taking significant personal risks to teach in person. I currently have at least one (potentially 6) students who were in my classroom within 48 hours before they were sent home because they have enough primary or secondary symptoms to require a 10-day quarantine. There is also a person in the building who has tested positive (now home, but we were in the building at the same time). Because of this potential exposure, I am not currently sharing a room or bed overnight with my spouse. I refused to hug my 88 year old parents over the weekend, while we were celebrating their 65th wedding anniversary, to ensure that I did not inadvertently expose them, because my risk of exposure is higher than it ordinarily is.

It makes no difference to my life if those 7 potential exposures acquired COVID 19 because they were blatantly flaunting the rules - or - because they got snookered by a political opponent into being caught on camera doing something stupid. If you are in close enough contact for someone you are not living or bubbled with to shampoo your hair, you should both be wearing masks. Period. Rule or no rule. Whether you are caught doing it or not.

My problem is with the media making this into a Federal case. What she did was inappropriate and unacceptable for someone of her stature, particularly.

What angers me is that that the media is elevating this into a crime that compares to the many crimes that Trump and company have committed, which is complete bullshit. This is a nothingburger. It should not even be in the news. What should be in the news are the many crimes being committed by Trump and the republicans DAILY.

I am so sick of the media going so hard on our people while they allow the most egregious crimes and offenses committed by republicans just go by without mention. It's disgusting and I don't really give a flying fuck what our people do because it will never, ever be half as bad as what they are doing to this country.

The owner lied.

salons on 8/31, for precisely one customer at a time. It's just that SF was not one of them, apparently. Also, apparently, Speaker Pelosi had been a long-time client.

Not a huge problem, but still a problem.

This sort of unforced error is just so unnecessary.

Certainly not surprising that the story is being pushed by the Trump cable news.They never say a bad word about the maskless idiots at Trump events.
Aren't the owners of salons responsible for how they do business? Apparently not in Ciluizza world.

And from the replies I’m glad I didn’t. The usual fuckery from him it sounds like.