Trump and the media are always blowing new dog
whistles that overwhelm the one before.

This really is good timing.

so that whatever BS Trump and the republicans cook up about Biden wouldn't get any traction.

lots of tapes

will have any affect on his supporters. They are hunkered down in the bunker of denial. The more information that comes out, the more sure they are that their messiah is being unjustly persecuted.

and influencing a few people at the margins to either sit it out, or vote for Joe just to save their lives.

did not have 180,000 dead people attached.

Not that the trumpsters give a shit.

the tapes then, there would be far fewer "covid is a hoax" cult members. There would have been fewer who believed trump and risked their lives to prove it. That would have saved lives.

Joe has plenty of things to go after trump about. I am glad he is reacting strongly to this news, but if Woodward had released the tapes in February, Joe could now certainly be reacting strongly to some other aspect of trump's covid genocide.

Woodward is a reporter. The president of the United States was lying to the American public about a deadly pandemic and putting ALL Americans in harm's way intentionally. Woodward knew this EIGHT months ago. He had tapes to prove it.

Woodward has blood on his hands.

And for those who are reacting as if saying this is somehow exonerating Donny Bodybags' willful genocide of Americans, get a grip.

It would have been a fart in the wind. Only someone hopelessly naive would believe otherwise. Way to give Trump cover, though.

I take it you think DeSantis and Abbott and Reynolds, among others, are blame free for the death toll. Because if you acknowledged that they have any responsibility for deaths, that would be "giving trump cover."

See how that's dumber than a box of hammers?

There is trump, and there are those who enable trump.

Woodward enabled trump for 8 months while 190,000 people died. Only someone hopelessly naive would believe otherwise.

Playing politics over people's lives

Woodward is a different bastard though, he did it to sell books

The fact that he waited until closer to the election is to sell more books

to pretend that opinions other than yours are "giving Trump over...", 'cause it sure as hell at grounded in fact, truth or reality.

Especially when I’m right.

The first death from COVID was March 10. In February there were no deaths yet, Fauci and all the experts, including WHO, were saying the virus wasn’t airborne and masks weren’t needed. Do you truly believe if Woodward had released that tape back on February 7th anyone would have paid attention?

Trump would have lied about his reasons for telling Woodward what he did. Say “well, right now it’s just theory, not confirmed. That’s what I meant.”

No, no one would have paid attention to Woodward without subsequent confirmation from our experts, who would have hemmed and hawed and downplayed for their own reasons. Whether it’s to make sure people don’t panic buy masks (Fauci), or whether to keep their jobs (Birx)...back when we had zero deaths and our own experts were downplaying the virus, no one would have listened to Woodward.

One thing after the other, hammering on Trumps incompetence and outright dangerous actions as a leader.

I’m not much for conspiracy, but I do wonder about high level Trump sycophants (looking at you Linsey Graham) and their behavior throughout this debacle.

With the ties to Epstein and the documented sexual proclivities of many Men in Power, makes me wonder how much blackmail was going around. I’ll never know I guess.

Naked skeletons.

who have supported him up to now turning tail and running from him now. Lindsey Graham, for example. He might well panic and flip on Trump to try and save his phony baloney job. I'd love to see that happen and have him still lose.

That we don’t condone the needless deaths of 200,000 Americans just to score some points to win an election.

And allow Trump to kill more people with his policies after he wins 4 more years?

whatever happened to that guy?

and no one who lived through 2020 will want to revisit it.
maybe in 50 yrs another generation will wonder wtf happened.

Probably two weeks too early. I would have gotten it out there a week prior to the first debate.

Trump is already on defensive now. No matter how that first debate goes Trump could not gain much momentum if this story was brand new. In fact, the debate questioning was guaranteed to focus on this aspect.

Instead, in Trumpworld there could be multiple developments to straddle this over the next two weeks.

if the goal is to save as many lives as possible. The only way to save lives is to boot out Turd and as many of his cronies as possible. Not much would have happened if these tapes had come out in February.

That's the big difference between Woodward's book and the others. I agree with you most are just a flash in the pan, but I've always thought the one that would do the most damage was Woodward's and I had no idea he had the interviews records.

really, nor for any longer time.

He released the book closer to election in order to garner more attention and increase sales

Pretty craven though, considering all the deaths since March

It will have a larger impact now than it would have before, though. Just watch. The release timing was deliberate, no doubt.

He was telling the truth to Woodward and telling lies to the American public! ABOUT A DEADLY DISEASE

Are you telling me a reputable journalist should hide the truth too?

unbelievable

.. contagious and killin kids too would've made a difference in so many peoples lives in mid Feb for instance.

There were a lot of smart ways to get that information out to the public

As the science was figured out, it was published. Trump just didn't admit that information. He didn't accept it, because it didn't fit his planning.

The fact that the virus was transmitted through droplets was covered in the news media. The fact that it was deadly was covered, too. I saw the information. I also saw that Trump was ignoring it. Others commented that he was ignoring it.

I don't know when the Woodward interviews took place, to tell you the truth. The interviews were all part of his book project, and he needed to be able to continue to interview Trump. So, he didn't reveal what Trump was saying in them, because doing that would have ended the interviews, which he wanted to continue.

He was planning a book. Books are time-consuming and require a lot of information. At least the kinds of books he writes do.

So, the information was out there, for anyone who wanted to get it. I don't know about you, but in February, I was already taking precautions to keep from getting infected. That was based on the information that was widely available. I had already isolated myself, stocked up on necessary items, and had accumulated a stock of masks, disinfecting stuff like wipes and hand sanitizers. I didn't stock up on toilet paper, but I had a giant Costco pack of Scott 1000 sheet rolls anyhow, since I buy that stuff in bulk. But the information was out there. Woodward wouldn't have scooped anyone. Trump was hiding it in his public speaking, but who trusted Trump in the first place.

Woodward accumulated the information he needed, wrote a long book containing that information, checked it over and over again, like all careful writers do, and it is finally in print. The timing might have been planned to coincide with the imminent election, and probably was. Woodward is smart about things like that, But the book was not finished in February. It was barely conceived of in February.

The information about COVID-19, though, was out there. I knew about it., and I'm not an insider. I follow the news very closely in many areas. Did you not know that COVID-19 was airborne and dangerous in February? I did. Did you not know that Trump was lying about it then? I did.

.. dormancy of the bug at that date but Trump did.

He should've socilazied it to every American

The information about COVID-19, though, was out there. I knew about it.

Are you talking about social media? Do you rely on social media for your news? If so, I suggest you expand your sources.

... point is on Feb 6th it was not well know that the virus was airborne and it held dormant for a week.

Yes, you are more informed than the above average human especially when it comes to political issues.

I don't deal with non-English speakers here unless they use their native language or write in standard English.

What do you think "socilazied" means.

...this will cement in countless voters' minds.

The type is cast.

At the start of a pandemic he's going to keep his trap shut for the sake of book profits seven months later? Fuck Bob Woodward. 190,000 Americans have died, and he could have helped make that number significantly lower.

He’s going to make a mountain of money.