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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:14 PM Sep 2020

What's your take on QAnon?

Who is it? Where?

Was it a long-term plan or just a WTF kind of goof?

Is anyone behind it now or is it self-perpetuating by low-IQ cultists?

Can it really be that hard to track it down? Is anyone trying? Where is Anonymous in this?

Does it really matter? After all, the cultists seem okay so far with the Woodward revelations (of course, if they even know about them).

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What's your take on QAnon? (Original Post) matt819 Sep 2020 OP
All I know is that is a crazy conspiracy theory kimbutgar Sep 2020 #1
It's idiots trolling that get amplified by Russian bots. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2020 #2
It is a prank/troll which Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #3
So if Biden wins he they might kill their children? MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #40
That's what the woman said Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #41
Follow the money. Qanon is making money. cayugafalls Sep 2020 #4
Hell if Trump idiots gave Bannon and three others $25 million for a FAKE wall and $300,000 Bengus81 Sep 2020 #49
The sickest part of all this is that this is all just repackaged Nazism. cayugafalls Sep 2020 #50
Check out this article: QAnon equals Nazi cult Louis1895 Sep 2020 #5
That is terrifying. Hanzzy72 Sep 2020 #11
tea party on meth?... stillcool Sep 2020 #6
It is very dangerous. Newest Reality Sep 2020 #7
They should go back to the basement from which they came. Initech Sep 2020 #8
I thought it was semi-established "the Trump aide Q" is actually the 4 chan leader? dawg day Sep 2020 #9
8chan/kun....Jim Watkins OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #19
+1 dalton99a Sep 2020 #21
Yes. I think this has Russia written all over it. Liberal In Texas Sep 2020 #38
Yes, I follow Jim Stewartson... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #44
What a "joke" dawg day Sep 2020 #37
They've already started to distance themselves... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #45
(Opens a can of beer Dirty Socialist Sep 2020 #10
Now you're just wasting good beer. Initech Sep 2020 #15
You cracked me up with that... MontanaMama Sep 2020 #32
They are batshit crazy. dewsgirl Sep 2020 #12
. area51 Sep 2020 #39
QAnon Key Figure Revealed as Financial Information Security Analyst from New Jersey dalton99a Sep 2020 #13
Those "Skills" 😂 A bunch of mumbo jumbo buzz words, almost all meaningless. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #25
huge dose of anti-semitism steve2470 Sep 2020 #14
That's the component many are overlooking. Behind the Aegis Sep 2020 #29
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #47
Hey. You just inspired a new one. Low IQanon's! I had Quackpots and Quazies already. n/t brewens Sep 2020 #16
QAnon is the next Timothy McVeigh in the making Snake Plissken Sep 2020 #17
Incel man-babies suckered into the long con Tarc Sep 2020 #18
It's evil. I've been following for years now... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #20
They're the crazies that even the Flat Earthers kick out for being too fringe. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #22
Just another crew competing in Turbineguy Sep 2020 #23
The place dumbasses go after you think they can't get any dumber. Squinch Sep 2020 #24
Like Trump - Q Anon seemed like a stupid joke until it got a taste for power. FM123 Sep 2020 #26
Another grifter scam sold to the cultists CanonRay Sep 2020 #27
I think it started with this guy... Baked Potato Sep 2020 #28
It's goof that some people unfortunately took seriously. Like the OK white power thing Sympthsical Sep 2020 #30
It's led by a coalition off self proclaimed nuts and Russian provocateurs Generic Brad Sep 2020 #31
A joke ellie Sep 2020 #33
Qanon is an internet inbred, multi-nation insane asylum askew point of view sanatanadharma Sep 2020 #34
Like all things in the right wing cinematic universe... Yavin4 Sep 2020 #35
My theory Dorian Gray Sep 2020 #36
Incel Dweller's of their Mother's Basements. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2020 #42
It's an indication a worrying proportion of Americans are gullible and paranoid muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #43
Exterminate with extreme prejudice. Nuff said. MyNameGoesHere Sep 2020 #46
It's dangerous. Swede Sep 2020 #48

kimbutgar

(21,181 posts)
1. All I know is that is a crazy conspiracy theory
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:18 PM
Sep 2020

And I have been battling my husbands 22 year old nephew who told me I needed to be in a looney bin for not believing in it today!

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
2. It's idiots trolling that get amplified by Russian bots.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:21 PM
Sep 2020

And the cult is too stupid to realize it.

That’s all it is.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,470 posts)
3. It is a prank/troll which
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020

has now spun out of control.

It is going to get people killed. A Time magazine article had this paragraph to give you a feel for what is going to happen.

Arthur and Frank explained they’re not followers of QAnon. Frank says she spends most of her free time researching child sex trafficking, while Arthur adds that she often finds this information on the Russian-owned search engine Yandex. Frank’s eyes fill with tears as she describes what she’s found: children who are being raped and tortured so that “the cabal” can “extract their blood and drink it.” She says Trump has seized the blood on the black market as part of his fight against the cabal. “I think if Biden wins, the world is over, basically,” adds Arthur. “I would honestly try to leave the country. And if that wasn’t an option, I would probably take my children and sit in the garage and turn my car on and it would be over.”


https://time.com/5887437/conspiracy-theories-2020-election/

Q-Anon is a death cult.

cayugafalls

(5,643 posts)
4. Follow the money. Qanon is making money.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:26 PM
Sep 2020

There is merch to be sold.

How three conspiracy theorists took 'Q' and sparked Qanon
Pushing the theory on to bigger platforms proved to be the key to Qanon’s spread — and the originators’ financial gain.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531?fbclid=IwAR1CA4l9cO7Gvu-KY8ZJjTozsn6jG1MBIG3dUsEhVDQaIAOdbVc_v5-t3Zk

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
49. Hell if Trump idiots gave Bannon and three others $25 million for a FAKE wall and $300,000
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:51 AM
Sep 2020

to the woman who owned the hair salon in San Francisco for her "gotcha" moment (which is now totally forgotten), think how much this bunch of guys will drag in off of those same clowns all willing and able to get out a credit card.

In their flaming RW Trump Humper World you can make a fortune by spewing fake patriotism, hating Mexicans and spinning ridiculous "theories".

Hanzzy72

(51 posts)
11. That is terrifying.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:38 PM
Sep 2020

I chalked it up to being started by some conservative think tank meant to indoctrinate the conspiracy theorist crowd into the Republican party -- but what you've posted is a far scarier alternative that I didn't consider.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
6. tea party on meth?...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:26 PM
Sep 2020

but this is interesting...

QAnon Website Shuts Down After N.J. Man Identified as Operator
By William Turton
September 11, 2020, 2:55 PM EDT
Popular aggregator site received millions of monthly visitors
Qmap.pub’s creator is known online only as ‘QAppAnon’

A popular website for posts about the conspiracy group QAnon abruptly shut down after a fact-checking group identified the developer as a New Jersey man.

Qmap.pub is among the largest websites promoting the QAnon conspiracy, with over 10 million visitors in July, according to web analytics firm SimilarWeb Ltd., and served as the primary archive of QAnon’s posts. The website aggregates posts by Q, the anonymous figure behind the QAnon theory, and the creator of the Qmap.pub website is known online only as “QAppAnon.”
===
The fact-checking site Logically.ai identified Jason Gelinas of New Jersey on Sept. 10 as the “developer and mouthpiece” for the site. New Jersey state records connect QAppAnon to Gelinas’s home address, Bloomberg found.
========================

A LinkedIn profile for Gelinas says he works as an information security analyst at Citigroup. Citigroup declined to comment.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-11/qanon-website-shuts-down-after-n-j-man-identified-as-operator

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. It is very dangerous.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:26 PM
Sep 2020

It is one thing to have fringe conspiracy theories that people believe in, but quite another to have it go mainstream and be endorsed by a political party.

Getting people to believe, en masse, absurd things sets them up for more absurd things and then, that can lead to horrific results. I am not being sensationalist about this, the potential is there, especially when whomever is behind QAnon seems to be utilizing and rebranding something we have seen before. You could say it is a Nazi cult as per this article:

A secret cabal is taking over the world. They kidnap children, slaughter, and eat them to gain power from their blood. They control high positions in government, banks, international finance, the news media, and the church. They want to disarm the police. They promote homosexuality and pedophilia. They plan to mongrelize the white race so it will lose its essential power.


That's from the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/

They may go there slowly in order to camouflage the potentially shocking ulterior motives. At some point, those who are hooked completely will be easy marks, depending on how many there are and how far it has crept into the Republican party via candidates.

In this case, the conspiracy IS the conspiracy theory itself. Whomever is pulling this one off seems to have an end goal and its not good.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
19. 8chan/kun....Jim Watkins
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

The irony of which is that he promotes/allows pedophilia.

He seems to be involved but not the only one. The people who outed Gelinas are close to outing the rest.

Liberal In Texas

(13,570 posts)
38. Yes. I think this has Russia written all over it.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:39 PM
Sep 2020

"The man behind Qanon is a vile hate-merchant coordinating with OANN, Flynn and Russian intelligence."

The link to the Mediium story is a fascinating read.

https://medium.com/@registrarproject17/jim-watkins-is-q-the-russians-are-helping-him-and-other-adventures-b457848e210b

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
44. Yes, I follow Jim Stewartson...
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 07:56 AM
Sep 2020

he's on top of this mess. His other Medium piece is good too. (Title something like "Q is coming for your family&quot

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
37. What a "joke"
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:31 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, all the Q people will just say this is part of the conspiracy. "George Soros is paying him to pretend to be Q!"

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
45. They've already started to distance themselves...
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 07:57 AM
Sep 2020

I follow a few "leaders" on social media and with the outing of one of the "Q Team" yesterday, a viral post started off by saying something to the effect "Even if the 1% chance Q ends up being something nefarious, our cause is just and we're awake"....blah, blah

dalton99a

(81,569 posts)
13. QAnon Key Figure Revealed as Financial Information Security Analyst from New Jersey
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:41 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.logically.ai/articles/qanon-key-figure-man-from-new-jersey

QAnon Key Figure Revealed as Financial Information Security Analyst from New Jersey
Published: Sep 10, 2020 12:40:15 PM





steve2470

(37,457 posts)
14. huge dose of anti-semitism
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:42 PM
Sep 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Role_of_antisemitism

Role of antisemitism
The conspiracy theory's targeting of Soros and the Rothschilds has led The Washington Post and Jewish-American magazine The Forward to accuse it of containing "striking anti-Semitic elements" and "garden-variety nonsense with racist and anti-Semitic undertones".[82][21] An August 2018 Jewish Telegraphic Agency article said, "although not specifically, some of QAnon's archetypical elements—including secret elites and kidnapped children, among others—are reflective of historical and ongoing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories".[83]

The Anti-Defamation League reported that while "the vast majority of QAnon-inspired conspiracy theories have nothing to do with anti-Semitism", "an impressionistic review" of QAnon tweets about Israel, Jews, Zionists, the Rothschilds, and Soros "revealed some troubling examples" of antisemitism.[84]

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, another example of a conspiracy theory likely to have been subtly exploited by foreign intelligence services to exacerbate preexisting weaknesses and suspicions in a national culture for the purpose of stoking internecine damage to its unity and institutions, has intersected with the QAnon conspiracy theories, with a Republican QAnon fan retweeting a Twitter thread about the Rothschild family, Satanic High Priestesses, and American presidents saying that "The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion Is Not A Fabrication. And, It Certainly Is Not Anti-Semitic To Point Out This Fact."[85][86] The retweeter later denied knowing the content of the thread, although anti-Semitic references appeared in the first few tweets.[87] Similarly, Trump has denied knowing anything about QAnon except that QAnon fans like him and "love our country."[88]

By 2020, QAnon followers were advancing a theory that Hollywood elites were engaging in "adrenochrome harvesting," in which adrenaline is extracted from children's blood to be oxidized into the psychoactive drug adrenochrome. Adrenochrome harvesting is rooted in antisemitic myths of blood libel dating to the Middle Ages, claiming that Jews murder Christian children for their blood for use in religious rituals.[89][90][91]

QAnon believers have promoted a centuries-old antisemitic trope about an international banking conspiracy orchestrated by the Rothschild family.[92] Mary Ann Mendoza, who sits on the advisory board of Women for Trump, was scheduled to speak at the 2020 Republican convention, but was dropped hours before her appearance after it became known she had promoted the trope on Twitter.[93]

Behind the Aegis

(53,979 posts)
29. That's the component many are overlooking.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:52 PM
Sep 2020

Seems more than a few don't want to see or acknowledge the rank and huge part anti-Semitism plays in this bullshit.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
17. QAnon is the next Timothy McVeigh in the making
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:49 PM
Sep 2020

People like to laugh at these shit for brains freaks and just brush them off, but they should not be brushed off, they are mentally unstable and believe they are doing he work of God, just like the suicide bombers in the Middle East.

There is no doubt in my mind that we will once again be dealing with mass shooting in schools and churches if Trump loses, the right wing media will once again go out of their way to incite these nutters into violence.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
20. It's evil. I've been following for years now...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:02 PM
Sep 2020

I've gathered so many excellent resources that I can't begin to summarize them and the impact it has had on millions and millions of diverse people.

Regardless of who actually started it (it looks like it may be revealed fairly soon; the people who outed Gelinas know others), I have no doubt that people like Bannon and Putin have been amplifying (if not controlling) it since the number of ridiculously gullible people no doubt surprised even them.

Squinch

(50,993 posts)
24. The place dumbasses go after you think they can't get any dumber.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:12 PM
Sep 2020

As for who Q is? Who gives a shit. He's (I feel certain it's a he) is just another in the sea of right wing psychopaths.

They're so numerous, they're just a blur.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
26. Like Trump - Q Anon seemed like a stupid joke until it got a taste for power.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:16 PM
Sep 2020

Nearly 600,000 people have voted for candidates who support QAnon
The overlap of Q supporters with Trump’s base of support is not a coincidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/01/nearly-600000-people-have-voted-candidates-who-support-qanon/

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
28. I think it started with this guy...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:50 PM
Sep 2020
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Q._Gebert

As far as the whole QAnon cult, I think some clever propagandists saw an opening with the Trump phenomenon of mass manipulation and they ran with it. I think the QAnons are the same type of people who believe The Enquirer is true news and WWE is real wrestling. Their brains yearn for meaning and closure for everything that happens in their lives.

Of course, Republicans weaponize everything and they use these groups to divide-and-conquer Americans. They could probably be “radicalized” to the point of frequent violence. Republicans are again nurturing a dangerous fringe group that we will all have to deal with. The response to them in itself will be used by the cultists as proof of deep-state takeover, IMO.

Sympthsical

(9,099 posts)
30. It's goof that some people unfortunately took seriously. Like the OK white power thing
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:53 PM
Sep 2020

And now it's its own brand of crazy.

A lot of this stuff originates on 4chan, which was originally just a bunch of internet trolls messing with people, but then actual white supremacists got involved.

It's a total shitshow.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
31. It's led by a coalition off self proclaimed nuts and Russian provocateurs
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:54 PM
Sep 2020

And occasionally some American oligarchs get involved when they think it suits their agenda.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
33. A joke
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:02 PM
Sep 2020

made up by some guys on 4Chan. I looked for the thread on Reddit and can't find it where it explains it all. I will keep looking.

sanatanadharma

(3,722 posts)
34. Qanon is an internet inbred, multi-nation insane asylum askew point of view
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:03 PM
Sep 2020

Prior to the internet, the largest found intensely-insane population 'point of view' was confined by walls.
Now Q's quote anonymous qlues (sic) to create tapestries of sick-fiction, while assuring themselves that they are the 'moran-al majority'.

Stupidity, insanity, the ignorant and egoic are never not dangerous.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
35. Like all things in the right wing cinematic universe...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:03 PM
Sep 2020

It's a grift that has gotten out of control

Dorian Gray

(13,498 posts)
36. My theory
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:10 PM
Sep 2020

Low info idiots congregate on line

One person makes shit up as a goof.

low info idiots buy it all

Russians amplify it

muriel_volestrangler

(101,355 posts)
43. It's an indication a worrying proportion of Americans are gullible and paranoid
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 04:42 AM
Sep 2020

Various grifters have seized on it to make money. But unlike, say, a religious huckster fleecing those who want a picture of a god that looks after them, this appeals to the worst anti-societal tendencies, like the Chinese Cultural Revolution did.

Yes, it matters. It's playing with fire.

Swede

(33,282 posts)
48. It's dangerous.
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:42 AM
Sep 2020

They are cultists that do not accept reality. Armed, angry, and on a mission from their god.

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