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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI probably just lost a friend of 40 years.
I posted a pic on FB of a campaign sign--"Biden 2020, tRump 10 to 20". This friend replied back with something about the "phony impeachment charges." I responded that I couldn't decide whether it took extreme mental gymnastics or just galactic stupidy for someone to excuse tRump's extortion of foreign interference in our elections, but that I was leaning toward the latter.
Of course, he took it personally and got nasty. My last response to him was to say that my comment was intended to apply to ANYONE--Dem, Rep, Green, Vegetarian--who was willing to tolerate or excuse foreign interference in our sacred process, and that he could stand under that umbrella, or step out from under it--his choice. I told him that I valued his long-time friendship, and it wasn't going to change for me, but there are lines not to be crossed, and this was one of them.
Guess I'll see whuthappens.......
It sucks when people we care for can not see what is so obvious to us. I hope it blows over.
Edwcraig
(292 posts)There is this thing called self-esteem. Aren't you glad you are keeping that?
catbyte
(34,454 posts)racist rant he went on about the Obamas shortly after that thing infested the White House. Over Facebook. Great platform. Not. We were pretty close and I thought I'd miss him but I haven't missed him a bit. I realized I just couldn't have such a toxic person in my life even if we never uttered another syllable about race or politics again. It wouldn't matter because I know how he feels.
BComplex
(8,066 posts)I was so disgusted after she told me that liberals wait until a baby is born before they kill it, and that Bill Gates is going to put microchips in everyone's hand, like in the bible, and he will lead the one world government.
I don't miss her.
duhneece
(4,118 posts)One woman Ive known for over 40 years told me to get off my soapbox and get a life. When I sent a list of what Ive been doing, she blocked me.
The other woman told me how wrong I was to advise/suggest everyone wear a mask and blocked me before I could reply
BComplex
(8,066 posts)I hope the campaign is going well!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Sad, but I can't have that kind of poison in my life.
Tetrachloride
(7,871 posts)and stick to it.
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)as a country. If I had old friends like that, I'd write them off and move on, consider them to be just acquaintances that I no longer keep up with. Family is a different matter, but we can choose our friends.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)other respectfully, and honor each of our rights to our own opinions, isn't that what being a friend is all about? If someone then mocks a 'friend' for their beliefs etc., then in my mind, they weren't really a friend at all. One of those 'fair weather' friends that when things get tough, they disappear like the dew in the morning.
Good for you. I wish you the best, and remember, you do have lots of other friends that you can call on, or if you don't, you certainly won't have any issues in finding other compatible friends like you to join up with. Take care and be safe out there!
Paladin
(28,273 posts)That's just where things stand, at this point. And I say that as someone who's let several friendships lapse, on account of trump loyalty.
Hard to be "friends" with anyone who is that ar from your own values and morals. I have dumped several because of pretty much the same thing, won't have racists as "friends".
Turbineguy
(37,368 posts)3catwoman3
(24,051 posts)I will be adding it to my lexicon.
lastlib
(23,287 posts)I guess the next step down would be "cosmically stupid"?
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)Don't take it personally. We outgrow things.
appleannie1
(5,069 posts)I never thought a jackass like trump could break up long-standing friendships or family bonds but he has managed to do both.
Tetrachloride
(7,871 posts)or my family.
If the friend wants to unfriend me, let them burn the bridge. I stay in their view.
soldierant
(6,926 posts)is a form of coming after me, my job (or at least my income, since I'm retired), and my family, such as it is.
Tetrachloride
(7,871 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)LisaM
(27,832 posts)I have never unfriended anyone (I hide a lot of stuff, though). I can't say that I have been given the same consideration.
I also have some online acquaintances who are hard left, and they can be a problem, too. I was aghast at one who encouraged looting as a justified redistribution of wealth.
But, I find I learn a lot reading some of their posts. Some of it is disturbing, though
kimbutgar
(21,195 posts)She used to be apolitical but then started dating a guy who treats her terrible and is a right winger and because shes of a certain age and desperate for male affection she has gone full mf45 posting these awful memes. I unfriended her. Ironically, when she gets in crisis mode she calls me for support emotionally. It will be interesting the next time she calls me for comfort.
And my husbands 24 year old nephew is full on Qanon, no college but he knows more than me with my lowly college degree and teaching credential, one who still reads newspapers and news magazines. He attacked me for watching CNN ( which I rarely do] and his father in February attacked me for reading Mother Jones(( which I rarely do) But I am the one with my loony ideas and am wrong to Not admit there are so many pedophiles sucking childrens blood I need to WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
We just have to accept these poor souls are lost for now and in a cult. I just hope it doesnt take a Jim Jones event for them to get hurt.
Warpy
(111,351 posts)and most people repay the compliment.
There are just things I don't want to know about other people: sex kink, crackpot politics, screwball religion. I've gone full Emily Post in my old age and the world is a nicer place because of it.
I've also carefully avoided Facebook. That site is responsible for more grief in this country than Limbag and Pox News combined. I know people are addicted to it and, like all addicts, say they can handle it and can quit any time. Neither is true. It has become the new battleground in a world war and people who want this country gone are fighting it. Your ex friend is one of their recruits.
llmart
(15,553 posts)I'm so glad I never got on it or Instagram or Twitter or any other goofy Tik Tok latest thing. I've actually looked at Facebook because I'm a naturally curious person and still don't understand the allure. Sadly, people are addicted to it. Then we end up with a freakin' president who communicates via Twitter??? Have you watched the Netflix documentary "The Social Dilemma"? You would see what the insiders who created these things feel about them now.
Warpy
(111,351 posts)because I found it a great place to keep up with fast breaking news, as long as I took it all with a pound of salt. I think I've made a total of three posts there.
I never did Facebook, I didn't like their business model and I certainly didn't want people from my past finding me. There's usually a reason they're in the past.
erronis
(15,335 posts)Different Drummer
(7,646 posts)My situation is like this. I am "friends" with several public figures on Facebook, one of whom is an animation voice artist I admire. During the 2016 Presidential campaign, he posted a link to some right wing hatchet piece that attacked Hillary and then went on about how ridiculous and unfair he thought the article was. I chimed in with my agreement, not realizing at the time that if a person sets their FB profile to public, anyone and everyone can see their posts and any responses to them. No sooner had I posted my response than all hell rained down on me in the form of a response from a high school classmate of mine who I've known since second grade.
The high school classmate wrote that, had he known my political leanings at the time he accepted my friend request, he never would have accepted it. Apparently, Fox News had told him that Hillary is Satan and he believed it because Fox News. He unfriended me and, in retaliation, I blocked him.
The ideas of live and let live and agreeing to disagree, sadly, apparently don't exist anymore and I'm not optimistic they ever will again. IMO, Fox News and the Republican Party since Nixon are largely responsible for this. I hope your situation has a better outcome than mine did, lastlib.
DFW
(54,437 posts)A guy I went to school with when I was 16, lost touch, got back in touch through a mutual classmate, maybe 17 years ago? I didnt pursue it. He was from some upper scale part of Connecticut where I never set foot, and he apparently never went to Texas or Germany. But he saw something I posted somewhere, probably one of my music videos mocking Trump, and he replied that he had never imagined that I would post something so hateful. Those of you who have seen our satirical Trump-mocking videos know that the only hate involved was in the few Trumpanzee responses. Oh, well. Life goes on.
calimary
(81,489 posts)From coast to coast.
Sorry to see this, but sometimes theres just no other way around it. I can appreciate the mixed feelings. But sometimes one has to prioritize ones own self-respect, as well as a little thing called The Truth.
erronis
(15,335 posts)I don't mind cleaning out my closet from some moldering skeletons every now and then. This apocalypse is a good opportunity.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,462 posts)marble falls
(57,236 posts)I've have noticed most Trumpers have slipped from unabashed Trump boosters to sullen 'whatabout-ists" since Covid19.
llashram
(6,265 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)I can't remember exactly what I posted, but I suspect the outrage came from the fact that I called that orange thing, "Pussy-Grabber", which is the ONLY thing I call him. One little extra I'll get if we win is that I won't have to use that word as often. . .
I had a long-time friend who just foamed at the mouth over Obama. She wrote daily tirades about him, and I just ignored it. I guess she could dish it out but couldn't take it. . . Typical repig, and as far as I'm concerned, NO loss, whatsoever.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)When all the tell-all books and stories hit the shelves.
And if he doesn't, well that's for you to decide.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The way I see it is he believes these lies IN SPITE OF ALL THE EVIDENCE, just because hes enthralled with Trump. You can see this, but what you havent seen before is the rest of the truth about this friend. But sometimes people like this will expose who they truly are and you simply cannot accept that in your life.
Its a shocking thing when this happens because its so unexpected.
In time though, youll recall some things said or done previously that showed you he wasnt being honest with you.
Delmette2.0
(4,170 posts)My friend of 30 years and I were at musical presentation. She asked me how I have been. I honestly answered," Sick to my stomach since the election." She turned away and talked to another friend of her's. Now, I have put up with her "I'll pray for you" and "you are in my prayers". I guess I should have asked why do I need prayers, but I was polite and just said Thank you." Seriously what else can one say?
I haven't called her and she hasn't called me since. Almost 4 fucking years!!
Just walk away and don't look back.
Joinfortmill
(14,460 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)The difference was an old friend of @40 years who I went 500 miles out of my way to visit, went ballistic on me. I tried to calm him down and urged him to drop the politics...but he wouldn't have it.
It all started, somehow, when BLM subject surfaced. He started off calling me a "fucking liberal", and on he ranted. I pleaded to drop the subject and get back to, what I thought was an old, long lasting, close friendship. Wasn't going to have it.
He finished off by calling me a cheap bastard cause I accepted his invitation to hold up at his place for the night; and he accused me of being a leech by not booking a hotel...which I really preferred to do in the first place, but I didn't want to offend his "friendly offer".
What a nightmare that was. I left him with his ranting, "...fuck you...yeah, you'd like that..." and on and on in the wind. Unbelievable. I honestly think he is sick...mentally. I think there are a lot of people, mentally at wits end right now. With Covid, this shit head nightmare in the White House, fires raging across the whole western country and air unfit to breathe, and then add in various personal problems people are facing everydsy...we are just worn down below safe.
These are some stressful, terrible times...compounded by this fascist pig and his thugs and cult idiots.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Party affiliations shouldn't tear people apart. There are strong opinions during every Campaign, but there's an election & in time, those feelings shrivel up & die. Friendships shouldn't.
I detest DT every bit as much as you do, & I fear the sane will be outvoted & we'll end up with a 2nd term of the JA. My husband keeps asking me just what I will do if he is? I don't know! I'm too old to move to another Country, so I guess he only answer is I'd gripe all the time & live with it.
I've made it a personal rule not to discuss politics with anyone I know is a Pug or a DT supporter. We were friends or relatives long before DT & I won't let him destroy those friendships for me.