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theaocp

(4,244 posts) Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:11 PM Sep 2020

Since Chad Wolf told the House to go to Hell,

does that mean this is the line? If there are no consequences to this action, does that not mean Congress is a paper tiger? I don't like the US operating on the benevolence of the Executive, but what's to stop them at this point?

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Since Chad Wolf told the House to go to Hell, (Original Post) theaocp Sep 2020 OP

What's to stop them? US! We have to vote the pigs out. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #1

Right, but that's still not dealing with the issue of ignoring subpoenas. theaocp Sep 2020 #2

Yeah - that can't be dealt with until we take power. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #3

Gotcha. theaocp Sep 2020 #4

It's near pointless to ask here superpatriotman Sep 2020 #5

Yea, it's a tough measure to know the level of panic I need to keep myself at. theaocp Sep 2020 #7

An election in which dems end up with control of both chambers. Volaris Sep 2020 #6

Cheers to that. Just keep the enforcement within the power of the House. theaocp Sep 2020 #8

Agreed. Volaris Sep 2020 #9

trump has eliminated any and all oversight. spanone Sep 2020 #10

Since the future is the only way to fix this theaocp Sep 2020 #11

Yes, this was demonstrated during the Ukraine investigation. maxsolomon Sep 2020 #12

If ignoring subpoenas is ok for them it's ok for us lettucebe Sep 2020 #13

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

1. What's to stop them? US! We have to vote the pigs out.

Reply to theaocp (Original post)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:13 PM

Sep 2020

theaocp

(4,244 posts)

2. Right, but that's still not dealing with the issue of ignoring subpoenas.

Reply to lagomorph777 (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:14 PM

Sep 2020

We're back to the honor system.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

3. Yeah - that can't be dealt with until we take power.

Reply to theaocp (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:16 PM

Sep 2020

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-federal-appeals-court-gutted-congress-subpoena-power-in-a-massive-ruling-in-don-mcgahns-case/ar-BB18yFxy

theaocp

(4,244 posts)

4. Gotcha.

Reply to lagomorph777 (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:19 PM

Sep 2020

I had forgotten about that and it was recent lol. Right. Pass legislation, I suppose, but they'll have to be able to enforce this shit outside the DoJ. Too much potential for another Barr fuckup. Cheers.

superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)

5. It's near pointless to ask here

Reply to theaocp (Original post)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:19 PM

Sep 2020

I find the latest iteration of DU is full of Pollyanna's who think everything is just fine. Status quo, if you will.

The truth is the Senate (Legislative) is cramming the Judicial to benefit and empower the unitary Executive (aided by a corrupt Judicial Dept), thereby neutering the House and making any of their powers strictly ornamental. The three branches of govenment will become one branch controlled by a malevolent, megalomaniac reincarnation of 'Sun King' Louis XIV.

theaocp

(4,244 posts)

7. Yea, it's a tough measure to know the level of panic I need to keep myself at.

Reply to superpatriotman (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:22 PM

Sep 2020

It's fatiguing AF to be constantly on alert. This country needs some RnR.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)

6. An election in which dems end up with control of both chambers.

Reply to theaocp (Original post)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:21 PM

Sep 2020

Then the joint majority can pass that stupid law the SC says is needed to give the house the inherent contempt power already assigned to it by the constitution.

Then it wont matter who's in the WH, because the tiger will have teeth to chew on executive malfeasance again.

It will be fun watching Mitch whine and cry about how mean we are to him from the minority for a while, especially if we take his favorite filibuster toy away from him.