poor people are getting mixed signals from Mitt. Mitt signals.

Now, I clearly recognize that this is not possible for many people. However, statistics bear out the truth that it IS better to have a parent at home. That is why my wife and I make sacrifices for her to stay at home and my brother and sister-in-law make sacrifices for him to stay at home.

Is he going to make people pay child support if they divorce??

kill other social programs.

http://www.barackobama.com/press/release/van-hollen-romney-ryan-wrong-for-the-middle-class/

it's the out of touch lack of concern for those who 'CAN'T' that pisses me off.... I am certain that nearly all of the 63.9% of Mothers mentioned in the article would stay home if they could... but they CAN'T, that's why Mitt Romney is a Fucking Asshole... because he does not care for those that can't

I am certain that your family's and my family's sacrifices are going to be rewarded by having a parent stay at home...

I count my blessings every day because we can give so much to my Daughter... I wish the rest of the country were in the same position we are today.

I come from a blue collar family whose father worked in a factory

that was UNIONIZED, so his job paid him GOOD wages and very good benefits.

so my mom did not have to go to work.

I love these Repukes who hearken back to those "good ole days"

when moms could stay home if they chose, because the jobs held by the family

breadwinners were often WELL paying with benefits including good health insurance.

They always "forget" that those good old days just happen to coincide with

a time when about 34 percent of the work force was unionized, and, no coincidence

here either, America had the largest middle class in the world.

Sorry I didn't get to this sooner.

homes for better-off friends.

Union membership, quality of the union, family size and expenses.

No two cases are exactly alike....My family was small (two kids) and

my father worked in a sugar refinery that had a very good union. He also

worked a second part time job as a bartender, but didn't really have to.

We lived in a pleasant, blue collar suburb, took one vacation a year

and grew up modestly, but without any real wants.

since you're clearly implying that your parenting is superior to mine (i was a single working mother for most of my life).

Between the hours of 3 and 5 in the parental home. Now, why do you think that is?

Clearly, this is not an attack on you and you can quite being so damn defensive.

you said statistically. where are the statistics.

My wife and I make it a point to go to parenting classes to make sure we are offering the best for our kids (fortunately, we live in Omaha and there are great classes/seminars at Boy's Town). Frankly, this statistic is brought up at the majority of these classes we have attended.

What scares me is how many parents are completely unaware of this and, as you case demonstrates, actually get pissed and "offended" when someone brings it up.

Here is something I found real quick, but did not have time to read here at work:

http://www.drugrehabtreatment.net/addiction-news/teen-alcohol-abuse/

the kids who want to drink and whose parents are at home go to the friend's house where the parent is not at home. i don't really see this as being some sort of empirical proof that kids do better when one parent stays home. and the plain fact is that these days most parents cannot afford for one to stay home.
i took offense to your apparent sense of superiority because you and your wife have managed that. as a single parent for almost all of the years when my children were young, that is offensive. with very few exceptions ALL parents are doing their level best to provide the best possible upbringing for their children. you apparently believe that you are more successful than me in that regard.
but i can tell you this. my oldest son runs a successful plumbing business and is raising three children of his own. my middle son is in his last year at law school, and my youngest is a junior at university where he has not failed to make the dean's list at every semester. each of my sons deserves plenty of credit for where they're at in their lives, but i couldn't have done that badly as a parent, right? i mean, i did raise these people, even while working to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table at the same time.
in other households everything may seem so hunky dory but the child gets taken by addiction in spite of it all. some places may look to an observer to be great but behind the walls terrible things are being done to those children - and when those children grow up some of them are successful and some are not.
anyway, you got me ranting. it was just the tone of superiority that pissed me off and you probably didn't even mean to come off that way. i apologize for my knee jerking.

Clearly, everyone does the best they can with the hand they are dealt. Sounds like you did a wonderful job. Hopefully, we raise our kids where there is no temptation because they have no desire (or know better). However, if they are like I was at that age, there will be temptations and I don't see anything wrong with limiting those opportunities. Clearly, I don't want to shelter them so when they get to college they go buck wild and turn into a meth-head.

Sure, they can always go to a friend's house that is empty in the afternoon and do those things. In our mind, it makes it easier for us to monitor that with one parent at home.

I can't afford it under our disabilities, so both of us has to work, with a growing child.

It's not what he said, it's the way that he said it. "I really sympathize with the majority of families out there who just aren't economically able to have one parent stay at home with the kids. I know that most working Moms agree with me and would love to be able to give their kids the attention that Ann gave ours."

And he could have used it to make (an admittedly lame) political point by adding:"And I intend to do something about it when I'm elected. When the economy is put back on the right path, it won't be necessary for so many of you to leave the home and your children . . .blah blah blah."

But Romney is so completely beyond caring about the 47% and most of the remaining 53%, that he misses a chance to pretend he has a heart.

I meant to say that he could have said something with at least a pretense of heart, likr "I really sympathize . . . "

It's better to have a parent at home, except if you belong to the 47%.

for destroying working family salaries.

He's an asshole. What might be preferable is not always possible. He has no clue and no empathy.

a lot of families ended up having TWO parents at home...

It's better for a young child to get that time with a parent, or someone else who loves them.

The thing is, most of us can't afford this anymore. Romney and his fucking criminal Republicans ass-hat buddies have so royally fucked this economy that only the most affluent parents can afford a full time stay at home mom or dad.

Fuck you Romney, not for the goal that you set, but for putting goal so far out of the reach of so many.

comment here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021413056#post12

As a single parent I worked a full time job and raised 4 kids. I could have stayed home and relied on the state to take care of us, but living on the edge of poverty with a job was more attractive than existing in the depths of poverty without one. I don't think someone who has not experienced that life can truly understand what it's like.

when I listen to him talk this insane gibberish he wants so badly to call "his policies and beliefs", I can't help but compare them to some of us earlier life's experiences and behaviors. When we do that, it all comes together into one big ugly picture.

It's rare to see one person so completely disconnected from the majority of American people's reality to the point that he can't even fake it.

He's unqualified to lead this country in and and every way, shape and form.

I'm sorry to be so blunt - I do. not. mean to hurt your feelings in any way shape or form. Please believe me!!!!!!!

The man is evil, cold, heartless and I hate him for what he is and what he is not.

I do understand that a man like Romney however, has the deepest suffering of all....

“But a mermaid has no tears, and therefore she suffers so much more.”
― Hans Christian Andersen, The Little Mermaid

just sell some stock so they can make that happen.

and he is also so much worse.

Romney and others that subscribe to his message will be defeated in November. It will be a mandate by those of us with souls, with empathy and compassion. We want a better world for us and all of our kids and the people we must share our world with.

am thankful for the immediate social safety net and much later, state-enforced child support from a deadbeat dad. Not all domestic situations are created equal.

But coming from someone like him--and, especially, without proposals for what he as president would do to make it possible for more parents to stay at home--it just comes off as preachy and unaware of what life is like for the 47%. Again.

You really have to wonder...how does a person become so completely blind to what 80 percent of the country experiences??

All Presidentisl candidates talk about how they meet snd talk with so many Americans on the campaign trail. Does he not listen to them? Or does he just give his prepared speeches and take off?

The only way someone could be so oblivious about the lives of the vast majority of this country--is if they deliberately avoided them. I think he is so wealthy and such an out-of-touch elitist--that he has no interest in us. He doesn't know any of us. He doesn't want to know any of us.

He does not belong in the White House.

i am a marine vet who lives in hazard ky, i am surrounded by these conservatives on all sides, you cant even drive to the store without seeing 50 bumper stickers saying something about friends of coal, it is a nightmare here, i love the location but the people are just plain awful, recently i found a local town forum and tried to express my views and because i do not agree with them they have insulted me to no end, if you really want to see how these people think give it a try at wsgs.com and click on message board, they don't care about people, they don't care about the green house gas, they don't really care about facts, so far on three threads gimmie gimmie gimmie, romney's 47%, and hilary apologizing to thugs, the debating has turned into nothing but insults, i want to show the whole democratic country just what this town i live in is like, listen to how cruel these people are when they talk about the poor, elderly, and disabled, it will show you just what we are facing in this country right now, this place is very poor, and these people are poor but they think they are myth robme's best friend, i am very ashamed of these people, i cant even post my opinion locally without being attacked and i know that if they knew my real name they would try to hurt me and my family so i have to post anonymously even though i have served my country

No offense to my wife. I'd rather have professionals raising my kid in a stimulating environment with other kids. My daughter showed huge increases in cognitive ability right after she started daycare.


Plus, when one parent stays home, the kid becomes too attached to that parent and it isn't fair to the other parent that cannot bond with the kid.

... selling us downriver.

And then you elaborated...which only reinforced my support for your comment.

'you had me at fucking asshole'

He went on to say how we could use Florida as a model of how to bring choice into which public schools children can attend. OMG! He can't be serious. What a clusterf**k it has been for the folks in FL

Herald investigation into charter school: cozy connections = taxpayer paid profits
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2011/12/herald-investigation-into-charter-school-cozy-connections-taxpayer-paid-profits-.html

Florida charter schools: big money, little oversight
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/19/v-fullstory/2541051/florida-charter-schools-big-money.html#ixzz1gWHn6e4n


Then there's been the massive failure in Louisiana

Is the Jindal Voucher Program a Boondoggle?
http://dianeravitch.net/2012/06/08/is-the-jindal-voucher-program-a-boondoggle/

and Texas

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/tx-school_n_1668594.html

but that worked back in the 1950s, when a single bread earner could buy a house, a car, feed a family, pay for health insurance, and save for educational costs. My father did it and bought a small house in 1959 for $3,000. But today two working parents can barely keep up.

The Republicans haven't realized those days are gone forever.

My brother and I barely speak. Some of those afternoons alone were moments of terror for me, since he used to hit me and throw knives and other random objects at me. When my parents got home, they didn't want to 'hear who started it' because they had 'dealt with enough crap at work and were tired' and so punished us both. I often heard, "oh, come on, he's younger than you, as if he beats you up".

I used to wish my parents were home so I didn't have to deal with that.

I promised myself when I had kids I would stay at home with them. And I did - I had 4 kids and was a SAHM for 13 years. Then suddenly my ex left me for someone else and I found myself back in school full-time and shuffling 2 kids to daycare (and the other 2 were latchkey kids). So far it's worked out okay, but I can tell my kids resent it...all except the youngest who was 2.5 when this all happened and doesn't know any different. And I'm lucky to have really great caregivers for my kids. It's still not an ideal situation. I understand some mothers dislike being home with their kids (my mother was one of them) and prefer to have them in childcare and I think so long as it's really GOOD childcare it's not detrimental. Unfortunately, finding childcare that's both affordable and good is not easy. I got lucky because where I live (in Canada) I qualify for a childcare subsidy so it's *just* cheap enough I can make do. I'm also lucky that my ex does pay enough I can survive without working while going to school f/t, and my school schedule means that at least a couple days a week I'm home before my kids are. The rest of the time they are living the same life I had. Thankfully, no physical fights between them though

Mittens, is just the gift that keeps on giving isn't he?,........Keep talking dude,...... Between stating that teachers unions have too much say in politics, to there should be 1 stay at home parent, to ER's can provide healthcare to the uninsured, to the fact that "I'm a little partisan (ya think dude!) ............. these are gems folks in getting the message out there about Rob-me and his group of freaks, courtesy of Rob-me himself................I just hope that the MSM & the Obama campaign are paying attention..............I know I am!!!

I wonder if he even has a soul!

... he just got me so mad with this one

Either way -- it's a CHOICE that some people do not have.

Most families have two working/employed parents. Being able to stay home (if one chooses to do so) is still a luxury for many.

a large majority of American families just don't have that option.

When my sons were young, I was making good money but we still sacrificed a lot in order for their mother to stay home.

But that was 20-something years ago.

you will hit the right answer. But, as usual even when Twit Mitt speaks a and throws a grain of truth in the mix he still falls short of a plan. And that is the problem. Except in Mitts case. I don't think he knows what a good plan is.

Hi Everybody,
This posting concerning families reminded me of an article I would like to share.
Within it is a chart that lists some countries and the paid maternity leave they give to families (nevermind the healthcare offered). As you may notice....the US is, may I say, a little behind the times.


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/permissiontolive/2012/07/how-i-lost-my-fear-of-universal-health-care.html

P.S. quick shoutout from a newbie here, HI

Yes, it would be great to have a parent at home with a child when they are young rather than shuffling them off to child care. But the reality is that our current economic system doesn't make that possible for the vast majority of families (other than the super-wealthy such as Robme). Ann RMoney was able to stay home because her only concern was for what to tell the servants to do and look at her pretty horsie. I doubt very much she actually did much with those children. I'll bet (I could be wrong) she deferred all the "little people" work to her servants.

Grow up fuckstick!!! If you really believe that RMoney then we need to find a way to make that possible. How do you do that? Let's see, raise salaries for those families so they can afford to have a child at home....require companies to provide reasonable means for job-sharing, etc. But he won't do any of that because that would mean his corporatist colleagues would have to give up a little of their profit and wealth for the COMMON GOOD.

What a dipwad....The sooner this election is over and he goes back to wearing his magic underwear and out of the spotlight the better.

never MIND divorce! my mom was lucky as she had 2 pairs of grandparents! GOP pollyannaism COSTS MONEY!!!