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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWas Mitt Romney Planning On Stealing The Election In Florida?
Sept. 26, 2012 Why Nathal Sproul is not in jail is a mystery, after a long history of charges he manipulated the 2004, 2008 and now the 2012 Election.
Nathan Sproul stands accused of destroying Democrat Registration forms in the past, has been hired by the Republican party to help Romney win in Florida and other states.
The Romney campaign hired a company called Strategic Allied Consulting and fired them last night when more than 100 fraudulent registration forms were found in Palm Beach County Florida. But theres more.
Strategic Allied is a shell company operated by Nathan Sproul. The Florida Supervisor of Elections reported the fraud which included:
1) Shredding Democrat voter registration forms in Florida and other states such as: North Carolina, Virginia and Colorado.
2) The GOP party paid this firm $667,000.00 this year to run campaigns in Florida, that would diminish democratic votes.
3) The Romney campaign hired Nathan Sproul as a political consultant last year knowing full well that he was accused of fraud in the past.
4) Election officials are investigating voter registration cards that were shredded or destroyed by the firm, and signatures were altered or changed on others.
5) Over 106 applications were flagged in a submission batch of 304 turned in on Sept 5, 2012 by the contractor of the Republican party.
The rest: http://www.politicolnews.com/gop-hired-fraud-company-destroy-voter-registrations-of-democrats/
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)"Democratic?"
It's an adjective describing the forms!
Glorfindel
(9,733 posts)Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, and other assorted Repuke. An interesting article on the subject:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2010/03/since_when_did_it_become_the_d.html
George II
(67,782 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)They refer to everything as Democrat rather than Democratic. It is either because they are uneducated and cannot communicate using proper English construction or they do this deliberately.
When I see it and I am responding I use the term "republic"...e.g. The republic candidate did so and so.....
It drives me crazy but I respond in kind.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)It's been in use on and off for a long time (since the 40s or 50s I believe), but the Republicans started using it consistently and deliberately around 1994 when Frank Luntz decreed it.
The average Joe Republican probably uses it out of ignorance because that's all they hear on Faux rather than out of some deliberate strategy.
The Wizard
(12,547 posts)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Publican (disambiguation).
This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (April 2007)
In antiquity, publicans (Greek ???ώ??? telōnēs; Latin publicanus (singular); publicani (plural)) were public contractors, in which role they often supplied the Roman legions and military, managed the collection of port duties, and oversaw public building projects. In addition, they served as tax collectors for the Republic (and later the Roman Empire), bidding on contracts (from the Senate in Rome) for the collection of various types of taxes. Importantly, this role as tax collectors was not emphasized until late into the history of the Republic (c. 1st century BC). The publicans were usually of the class of equites.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Assholes.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)JackHughes
(166 posts)When Republicans use that lame "Democrat Party" nonsense, Democrats should respond with "RepublicanIST Party."
That "IST" carries a lot more negative rhetorical baggage, i.e., Communist, Fascist, Anarchist, Islamist, etc. It correctly groups Republicans with other radical movements.
crazyjoe
(1,191 posts)a stupid issue to me, who the f**k cares. The latest polls show Obama creaming Romney in all the important states, we got this thing in the bag.
I'm a democrat, and all you republic's can kiss my ass.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Party..used as an adjective. The stupids are the gops who think they're so clever when all they have are LIES.
crazyjoe
(1,191 posts)the democrats said this or the democrats said that.....that's fine, no issue.
the democrat party.....oh my god, i'm sooo insulted
the democratic party.... that's better, now i'm not insulted.
give me a break...
Cha
(297,655 posts)it's "Democratic".
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)Because their idiots. Ooops! Was that too harsh.
The term Democrat Party apparently originated from the McCarthy
era, but it is currently propogated by Rushbo Lumbutt.
They did it to make the party sound more like an offensive DemocRAT party,
then a Democratic Party.
When I hear friends say Democrat party, I do 2 things,
1- I immediately correct it and say it's Democratic party, look it up.
2- I tell them to stop listen to that blow-hard Rush.
avebury
(10,952 posts)Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)as well the better known ones in Nevada, Arizona and Pennsylvnia.
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)Unless there's public outrage, nothing happens in Florida.
jonesgirl
(157 posts)therefore they just shake their heads and say, "thats the way it is around here." It's pitiful to see how much stronghold the "higher uppers" have on them.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Faux pas
(14,690 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)Alternet on Sproul's dirty tricks in 2004:
http://www.alternet.org/story/20194/republican_dirty_tricks
Also a very long Daily Kos diary from the same year:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/59695/-NATIONAL-The-smoking-gun-on-voter-registration-fraud-Nathan-Sproul
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)whether running for President is, in Romney's mind, just another way of making money in the short or long term.
I don't know how one would make money running for President, but that doesn't mean it's not possible. There's been much discussion on this site and elsewhere about why Romney is running for President, and speculation that not even he knows why he's doing it (other than the - in my opinion - lame explanations that he feels he is "owed" that position, or to one-up his father).
But if you just step back look at Romney's adult life, hasn't it all been about lining his own pockets? Why should this current venture of his deviate from that incredibly consistent life mission?
EC
(12,287 posts)zero. He wants to lower taxes on capital gains to zero, meaning he and his ilk will be paying no taxes while ours will raise to make up the difference. He'll also put in laws to allow him to hide more cash without penelty...there are plenty of ways he can change laws to make more profit for himself.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Because he has no earned income, it will enable him to live in a country where he shelters the rest offshore, contributes absolutely nothing to provide for the common defense, or promote the general welfare of the masses.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)a LOT of money he'd otherwise not have had access to.
Now, if one's father as governor can open doors as beneficial as hat, can you imagine being a former president can do for one's profits?
lexw
(804 posts)JackHughes
(166 posts)Romney is just a presidential hobbyist -- like other rich guys buy sports teams or fly balloons around the world.
Romney is running for president just because he wants to be president -- and it shows.
icarusxat
(403 posts)then release 13 years of tax returns instead of showing the world you are less than one tenth of the man...
phantom power
(25,966 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)just not for president neither.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I won't breath easy until all the votes are counted and Obama is declared the winner.
The GOP has stolen elections before, and this nationwide GOP voter suppression crap
is anti-American and criminal, IMHO.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)It's not the time to rest on our oars. The race is far from over and conservatives are notorious for voting against their own best interests. We have voter suppression and unlimited GOP funding on top of that also to deal with.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)I seem to remember talk of Kerry being ahead in polls, and then I had another four year long nightmare with the Shrub in the oval office.
I will take nothing for granted.
cheezmaka
(737 posts)I plan to keep working and register voters until Oct. 9th. I'll work up until Nov. 6. I wont relax until Obama is declared the winner. If we all get voters to the polls, we can have enough votes to supress the voter suppression... Although Obama is ahead in a lot of polls, I'll still work like he's over 5 points behind...
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)stoned to death by the people they cheated. But these bastards don't just cheat those voters, what they do screws us all. Slaps on the wrist emboldens the criminal. If the DoJ can prove these criminals are doing this, those people should never see the light of day again.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)More like "actively engaged in".
B Calm
(28,762 posts)After all he hired this SOB!
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,292 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)But why is this guy allowed anywhere near our elections? As to why he would be hired by Republicans? Well, the Mafia hires hit men they know are experienced in their 'field'.
Republicans hire people accused of election fraud. Same story.
Dems should take out big ads in Florida with his photo and what he is accused of and the question 'why is Romney paying this guy' to work on his campaign?
I wonder how many more of them there are.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)How goes it? Long time no bump into each other...
Absolutely agree, full page ads in local, even national, papers.
How to get that idea to the two Davids (in case they haven't already thought of it)?
This is an urgent matter. The scales need to be removed from the general public's eyes, and pronto!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I've been thinking about you
I agree they will do anything to win, we know that. Public exposure of their behavior is probably the best way to shine a light on their criminal behavior.
Maybe some of the organizations, like ColorForChange eg, could raise some funds to put ads in big national newspapers. They are very good at that kind of thing.
But you are right, it is an urgent matter and I'm sure they are up to more dirty tricks we haven't discovered yet.
riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)MSM is pretty lame.
jonesgirl
(157 posts)Ms Arrington just blows it off. If she is that desperate, I wonder what else she is/has done while in office?
glinda
(14,807 posts)alittlelark
(18,890 posts)nice catch.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Hope this gets covered by at least SOME of the news stations. CNN or NPR at least.
DirtyDawg
(802 posts)These people are everywhere and until they are made to understand that there is a price to pay for the deceit, the lying, the worst kind of thievery imaginable, they won't stop. What price and when? Sorry, but I just re-agreed to the terms of membership here so I probably shouldn't say what I believe...but since the SOB seems to live in Arizona, a headless body dumped in the desert comes to mind.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Some DU-ers were speculating that maybe Nitt knows something we don't. His campaign has hit the skids; his numbers are trailing the President's; sparse crowds and lackluster folks show up at his rallies; and he's the joke of the politicos of both parties. But none of these things will matter one whit if the plan is to throw every swing state (each having repuke governors) to Nitt.
This scenario wouldn't ever occur to me except that it happened in 2004 when techno guru Mike Connell manipulated the numbers to give Ohio to dubya. The exit polls, always a sound indicator of who's winning, suddenly 'flipped'-- remember that? And politicos were scratching their heads over this anomaly.
I fervently hope I am wrong. Nothing would make me happier.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The Republican Party of Florida's top recipient of 2012 expenditures, a firm by the name of Strategic Allied Consulting, was fired on Tuesday night, after more than 100 apparently fraudulent voter registration forms were discovered to have been turned in by the group to the Palm Beach County, FL Supervisor of Elections.
The firm appears to be another shell company of Nathan Sproul, a longtime, notorious Republican operative, hired year after year by GOP Presidential campaigns, despite being accused of shredding Democratic voter registration forms in a number of states over several past elections.
According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Strategic Allied Consulting has been paid some $667,000 this year by the FL GOP, presumably to run its voter registration campaigns in the state. That number, however, does not account for another identical payment made in August. The Palm Beach Post is reporting tonight that the firm received "more than $1.3 million" from the Republican Party of Florida "to register new voters."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1014&pid=245256
He's still doing dirty deeds in the swing states, though. But this may help in Florida...