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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:20 PM Sep 2012

Things right now are looking very good--are you worried about the debates?

It seems to me the only way for Romney to make a comeback is if he performs well in the debates and Obama falters or makes some kind of gaffe. Obama is cool as a cucumber while Romney will be wanting to make something happen. It seems to me that Romney is the one who in his urgency to try and make a game changer will trip up.

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Things right now are looking very good--are you worried about the debates? (Original Post) WI_DEM Sep 2012 OP
Nope. nt onehandle Sep 2012 #1
Not worried. The 47% video won't go away. Maybe expectations are too high for Romney as the GOP livetohike Sep 2012 #2
I have the same problem with debates that I have with Raven Sep 2012 #3
One awkward, creepy, inappropriate laugh from Romney boobooday Sep 2012 #4
i agree that the debates are rmoney's last best hope for a game changer. but he remains a long shot. unblock Sep 2012 #5
no. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #6
To some extent. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #7
Not really. CrispyQ Sep 2012 #8
Toles nails it again. n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #13
Nope. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #9
Hate to be cynical Pbs1914 Sep 2012 #10
No gollygee Sep 2012 #11
No. I'm worried about the voting machines and the Rethugs MoonRiver Sep 2012 #12
Not worried about the debates at all. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #14
Not a bit. rMoney already dug his political grave. He's no match for Obama. I see no change. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #15
During the first few debates with Hillary that was the case. He stumbled. He stammered. He stuttered Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #16

livetohike

(22,163 posts)
2. Not worried. The 47% video won't go away. Maybe expectations are too high for Romney as the GOP
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:22 PM
Sep 2012

thinks he will turn everything around on that first debate. They're going to be disappointed. Romney seems to have a short fuse and he will screw up.

Raven

(13,900 posts)
3. I have the same problem with debates that I have with
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:23 PM
Sep 2012

figure skating competitions. I love them but I can't bear to watch. When those couples get ready to do one of their trible double up in the air whirlygigs, I have to cover my eyes. Feel the same way about these debates.

boobooday

(7,869 posts)
4. One awkward, creepy, inappropriate laugh from Romney
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:24 PM
Sep 2012

is all it will take, and it will happen for sure. He will lose his cool somehow.

unblock

(52,318 posts)
5. i agree that the debates are rmoney's last best hope for a game changer. but he remains a long shot.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012

i'm worried only in the sense that if the debates were somehow called off for some valid reason, rmoney wouldn't have that last chance for a game changer, and therefore would have very little hope left at all.

the debates now become nothing but an opportunity for obama to screw up and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. that is exactly what rmoney will be praying for.

obama's not remotely given to screwing up royally, so this is a decidedly unlikely event, all the more so because he'll be playing it safe. but it remains a small possibility.


otoh, if rmoney self-destructs (far more likely, as he *is* gaffe-prone and he'll be throwing hail marys) we could have a better shot at winning the house.

the next 2 years look rather different if we can actually capture both houses of congress (and, please, please, severely limit the filibuster).

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
7. To some extent.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:37 PM
Sep 2012

I hope the president does well, and I really hope he can make Romney come unglued, to seal the deal.

Debates always carry an element of risk.

Pbs1914

(147 posts)
10. Hate to be cynical
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:41 PM
Sep 2012

but the main thing I've been worried about since, 2003 when Johns Hopkins University first did their study on how easy it is to compromise them, continues to be the diebold machines. I have no idea why Democrats/public/ or even the current media that is at least 30% liberal as opposed to the 5% Dan Rather days when it was just him and Bill Maher, why this isn't getting the attention it deserves.

No papertrail.. they can have some excuse a few days before the election, flaunt the memo by fox news, and try to get the bought polls (Gallup, Rassmussen) close enough that a 2-3 percent change with the machines can change it.

I just find it soooo odd that so many swing states and blue states have Repub Governors. Penn? Repub Governor and adminsitration in charge of the votes. Wisconsin? Repub Governor who was the ONLY politician to EVER survive a recall election (NO RED FLAGS THERE??!!!). The ONLY one. Then you have Ohio, Repub Governor. How many deep Red states have Democratic Governors. South Carolina? hmmm Georgia? Mississippi? Nope, but we sure do have a Scott Brown in BLUEST of the Blue Massachussets. hmmmmm. This isn't an election year plan, this was initiated years in advance. The persons behind the machines get the people in under the radar while letting one or two races slip to give a false sense that this isn't going on. Anthony Wiener.... while investigating conflict of interest between AHC and Clarence Thomas, suddenly has a "picture" scandal, loses his seat, then a REPUBLICAN is elected in the middle of Brooklyn?! and nobody says.. hmmm what about those diebold machines or who the he11s counting the votes.. .THATS what I'm worried about.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
11. No
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:42 PM
Sep 2012

Bush (W that is) managed to debate without too much embarrassment (though I remember him sounding weak to me) but the press was on his side. Romney doesn't have that benefit. And I think his temper is worse and he'll get snide or nasty at some point and it'll look horrible. One of Obama's great assets is how he always appears so kind and empathetic. There's start contrast between them on that point when they are nowhere near each other, and the contrast will be even greater when they're on the same stage answering the same questions.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
14. Not worried about the debates at all.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:47 PM
Sep 2012

Not Biden's either. They both, POTUS and Veep are well-equipped for this. The worst they will do is a draw. Most probably, they will wipe the floor with Stench and Gilligan.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
15. Not a bit. rMoney already dug his political grave. He's no match for Obama. I see no change.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:50 PM
Sep 2012

As Bill Maher said, the undecided are dumbfucks.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
16. During the first few debates with Hillary that was the case. He stumbled. He stammered. He stuttered
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

As the debates went on, though, especially with McCain, he got much better. I could tell that he wasn't a seasoned debator prior to that. But he got better later.

So, I don't agree with you. And even though Mittens got better towards the end, he is not particularly good on his feet. Obama is.

However, I am worried to the extent that the moderators and Corporate Media have raised the bar for Obama and lowered it for Romney. They still want a close race, and they always seem to raise the bar when it comes to anything Obama says or does, no matter what he says or does. If Romney doesn't commit a gaffe of any kind, he'll be declared the winner. Same will be true of Paul Ryan who the Corporate Media loves anyway.

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