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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsROFL! Fox's Kilmeade Accidentally Asks Dick Morris The Obvious Question About Polls.
Fox News and the rest of the Right Wing Noise Machine continue their desperate damage control operation of claiming "Don't believe any of these polls!" Without this effort, wingnuts would get discouraged and stay home on election day, assuming a helpless fetal position on the couch and wondering if they've got enough survival rations and ammo.
Due to sheer embarrassment, they've put aside the "It's all part of a vast, left wing media conspiracy" narrative (all but Limbaugh, of course) and finally settled on a trope they can all parrot without feeling like complete idiots.
"They're using a 2008 'turnout model."
I even saw poor, pathetic Rudi Giulianni saying this a few minutes ago.
You can turn this into a DRINKING GAME. Go to the bar, and chug your drink every time a conservative talking head says "They're using a 2008 turnout model..." to explain Romney's decline in the polls. We know they all get the same talking points memos, and go around repeating the same phrases, like Zontar's Zombies, without even changing the words. So, you may as well have some fun watching it.
Anyway, for some bizarre reason Brian Kilmeade accidentally asked Dick Morris the obvious question, while Morris was reading from that script, and Morris is completely flummoxed.
The question? "If all of the polls are inaccurate in showing Romney's decline, how do you explain THE TREND? Why did THE SAME POLLS show Romney and Obama dead even a few weeks ago?"
Morris looks like he's just seen a ghost. Fumbles for a few minutes, and then starts blathering about "Um..er...well...I think they're RE-WEIGHTING THE DATA...and..um...WTF, whose side are you ON!?"
Take a look. It's hilarious! Kilmead asks the question at the 1:40 mark.
http://nation.foxnews.com/polling/2012/09/26/dick-morris-poll-numbers-are-not-accurate
TeamPooka
(24,254 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)I guess that comes from eating too much of Roger Ailes' ass?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)There may be some truth in what is being said. They look at past voting to determine who is likely to vote. If the Republicans have managed to disqualify some of the voters who voted regularly in the past -- like elderly people, like people of color, etc., then maybe the outcome could contrast with the poll results.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Every time he opens his mouth, people that listen to him actually get dumber.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I don't even think he cares who wins. He just knows where his bread is buttered. That's why he's appearing on Faux spouting this bullshit. He wants to get paid.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Dog biscuits used for the Pavlovian conditioning.
veganlush
(2,049 posts)..."polls don't matter, it doesn't matter who wins in telephone polling, because those people aren't being caged, aren't being required to show i.d". If a pollster calls you and you say you're voting for Obama, what difference does that make if on election day you are turned away?.. The ground game, the GOTV, is more important than anything else because it has to make up for the suppression.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)of PHOTO ID?" to the questions they ask.
That way they could simultaneously get:
A) An accurate picture of voter sentiment. and
B) An accurate picture of how much the Republican voter suppression efforts may effect the outcome.
cleduc
(653 posts)I've spot checked a few vs exit polls in 2008. I've seen a few matching the 2008 exit polls and I've seen a number where the Dem participation is down by 4 points for example. With Dem enthusiasm polling up and rising to match or exceed the GOP in many of the polls I've seen, it can't possibly explain the polls being off as much as Morris claims.
Past clairvoyance by Morris includes:
June 2012, Dick Morris: "Bill Clinton Does Not Want Barack Obama To Win"
Is Dick Morris the world's worst political pundit?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/08/is-dick-morris-worlds-worst-political-pundit
The guy is a clown
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)time Hannity opens his mouth. BRB
rock
(13,218 posts)You know, he ought to wear his red nose, a great many fox viewers could take him seriously.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)I responded with: "If I had Koolaid-Orange dyed hair, and wore a red and white checkered shirt all the time I'd be very careful about calling somebody else a clown."
Chuck Norris (not exactly as shown) comments on President Obama's job performance.
Spies next wife in crowd of Girlscouts viewing his speech.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)and simply reports the results as they happen. Then sit back and watch the stutter.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)past turnout. They just phone people at random, ask if they intend to vote (likely voters) and then ask them questions. There is such a thing as stratified polling, where you look at the composition of the population and then go out of your way to LOOK for a certain number of respondents from each category and ask them what they think. But I don't think they do that for election polling. Just things like marketing products.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)It was game over right then.
Marr
(20,317 posts)They're hoping their voter suppression efforts will be enough to steal a series of races, and their illegal operations obviously aren't reflected in traditional projections.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Bucky
(54,065 posts)"I don't like the facts so I'm just saying technical sounding shit in the hopes that you won't question me."
This is Dick Morris saying anything just to get on the air and try to hold onto his few remaining customers.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)He will say anything if it means money in his pocket.