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Do YOU agree with Jon Stewart? (Original Post) Playinghardball Sep 2012 OP
don't you? barbtries Sep 2012 #1
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #26
It sums up what the whole republican schtick is Cosmocat Sep 2012 #90
I totally agree with him! n/t arthritisR_US Sep 2012 #2
How can I not? GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #3
yip Johonny Sep 2012 #4
Of course. End. ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #5
That was a great episode. Just aired a few days ago. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #6
And, The Funniest! Cha Sep 2012 #36
Agree - re-watched it xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #86
Almost always OriginalGeek Sep 2012 #7
K & R cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #8
Research in Psychology agrees. "Attribution Error" is very reliable. patrice Sep 2012 #9
What's that other term... DaveJ Sep 2012 #30
Entitlement mentality? dotymed Sep 2012 #100
Confirmation bias Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #32
Yes, don't you? sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #10
How could any Democrat not agree? Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #11
One of his best moments on the Daily Show. Jennicut Sep 2012 #12
and should be good enough for yet another Emmy. nt truebluegreen Sep 2012 #18
HUGE k&r Hutzpa Sep 2012 #13
K&R nt avebury Sep 2012 #14
Yep, on this, and most of the other times DiverDave Sep 2012 #15
are you kidding? angel823 Sep 2012 #16
"Yes." truebluegreen Sep 2012 #17
Yes, because it's true. n/t Greybnk48 Sep 2012 #19
Yup Flatpicker Sep 2012 #20
He's a comedian tavalon Sep 2012 #65
Yes, I agree. yends21012 Sep 2012 #21
Of course I agree with him! DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #22
Absolutely! demilib Sep 2012 #23
Yup. silverweb Sep 2012 #24
Very often I agree with him more than I agree with myself. mac56 Sep 2012 #25
Why I believe the technical term for that is what's known as a "cluster fuck". Initech Sep 2012 #27
Or, in gatherings of more tender sensibilities, "group grope" can be substituted Bocks Car Sep 2012 #52
I like "circle jerk" as well! Initech Sep 2012 #58
Yes Solly Mack Sep 2012 #28
"the denizens of bullshit mountain" yellowcanine Sep 2012 #29
Fuck YEAH! Blue Owl Sep 2012 #31
Boo-yah! I love it! n/t MicaelS Sep 2012 #33
Yeah, that just about sums it up for me. Waltons_Mtn Sep 2012 #34
Damned skippy, I do. madashelltoo Sep 2012 #35
Absolutely! n/t Mad_Dem_X Sep 2012 #37
Well, yes except...... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #38
I agree with whatever you said. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #41
!! FailureToCommunicate Sep 2012 #42
You are now under my power...... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #75
Cognitive dissonance is what's happening inside my own brain eyewall Sep 2012 #64
You need to take...... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #77
great point! I think you nailed ecstatic Sep 2012 #70
The conservative mind today (such that it is)..... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #79
Absolutely! Plucketeer Sep 2012 #39
Yep. 99Forever Sep 2012 #40
Absolutely! eom City Lights Sep 2012 #43
Totally Agree! n/t horseshoecrab Sep 2012 #44
I agree!!! beachgirl2365 Sep 2012 #45
Yes vote here Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2012 #46
Yep... K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #47
Totally. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #48
yes! heaven05 Sep 2012 #49
. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #50
let me be the 169th person to rec this...and a kick as well! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #51
Absolutely! Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #53
Jon Stewart for Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #54
K&R defacto7 Sep 2012 #55
Kick kentuck Sep 2012 #56
So this is the check in if you are sane thread? Kalidurga Sep 2012 #57
110% Agreement. (nt) Paladin Sep 2012 #59
Bingo, Bango, Bongo - Spot on!!! n/t SmittynMo Sep 2012 #60
How could anyone NOT agree with that? ScottLand Sep 2012 #61
This? Yes, except to replace "denizens of bullshit mountain" with conservatives. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #62
He's right. So, yes, I do agree with him. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #63
Yes. DinahMoeHum Sep 2012 #66
That one was a true Stewart gem. DirkGently Sep 2012 #67
Always - and it's ridiculous that the best political TBF Sep 2012 #68
The best TV since The Wizard Sep 2012 #69
Yes Eatacig Sep 2012 #71
Yes. Especially here! calimary Sep 2012 #72
yes subject Sep 2012 #73
No Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #74
Hell, yeah... MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #76
What's baffling about it? It's all consistent with an extremely egomaniacal view of the world. spooky3 Sep 2012 #78
America really is a frightening place if so many Americans think like this AZ Progressive Sep 2012 #91
and that they are PROUD rather than ashamed of it. spooky3 Sep 2012 #102
Well, hell yes! Maynar Sep 2012 #80
I see he's met my in-laws. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #81
100% agreement! Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #82
Applies equally well in Canada too. MAD Dave Sep 2012 #83
On this, absolutely! mountain grammy Sep 2012 #84
I absolutely agree. LakeErieLiberal Sep 2012 #85
fuck yeah ibegurpard Sep 2012 #87
Yes, I do. Stardust Sep 2012 #88
This is DU - you're required to no matter what he says ... meegbear Sep 2012 #89
I've been on here for years and regularly disagreeing with the masses. crim son Sep 2012 #97
Brilliant riposte. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #99
On this and most things he says, I do liberal N proud Sep 2012 #92
I absolutely agree Ian62 Sep 2012 #93
I resemble that. Errrm- I mean yes. geckosfeet Sep 2012 #94
Yes, I agree Shankapotomus Sep 2012 #95
General human optimism corrupted PATRICK Sep 2012 #96
I love watching his show every day, BEZERKO Sep 2012 #98
Stinky Poo! Ughhh! n/t veness Sep 2012 #101
He's just a silly comedian. Kablooie Sep 2012 #103
YES libodem Sep 2012 #104
I do on most of his rants LiberalLovinLug Sep 2012 #105

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
90. It sums up what the whole republican schtick is
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:26 AM
Sep 2012

you bear no responsiblity for your actions at all, and there is always a boogeyman to scream at.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
6. That was a great episode. Just aired a few days ago.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012

EDIT: You can find it by the name "Chaos on Bullshit Mountain". Possibly the best 10 minutes of TV all election season.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
9. Research in Psychology agrees. "Attribution Error" is very reliable.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:34 PM
Sep 2012

People explain behavior in a very consistent way.

One's own good behavior is the result of permanent positive personal traits.
One's own bad behavior is the result of temporary situational traits, beyond one's own control.

Other people's good behavior is the result of temporary situational traits that are beyond their control.
Other people's bad behaviors are the result of permanent negative personal traits.

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
30. What's that other term...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:41 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:02 PM - Edit history (1)

I think Attribution Error is exacerbated by their belief that some people are simply better and more privileged because God said so, so nobody should ever question their natural right to have more. It's not 'manifest destiny' but something like that, that I've been trying to recall for a while now...

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
12. One of his best moments on the Daily Show.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

Bullshit mountain pretty much sums up what Faux and conservatives and the GOP is all about.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
22. Of course I agree with him!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:33 PM
Sep 2012

The man is 100% completely right and so very handsome as well... I love me some Jon!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
38. Well, yes except......
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:48 PM
Sep 2012

...cognitive dissonance is where a conflict arises in one's mind when trying to reconcile two opposing ideas. The result is surprise, anger, guilt, dread or embarrassment. And I don't Republicans have that problem. What the reference is trying to say is: ''It's a baffling, willfully blind doublethink...''

Or, it could also be described as The Dunning Kruger effect which is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to recognize their mistakes.

- I was recently reminded that it helps to get one's metaphors and definitions correct.....

K&R

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
75. You are now under my power......
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:24 PM
Sep 2012


....and you are now a chicken! So go into the kitchen and sit on the table (move the ketchup and salt/pepper shakers) and fold a tea towel or those leftover napkins from Dunkin' Donut and lay two eggs in it.

- Congratulations Mommy!!!!

eyewall

(674 posts)
64. Cognitive dissonance is what's happening inside my own brain
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

everyday, as the elecection gets more surreal the cognitive dissonance gets more intense.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
77. You need to take......
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:31 PM
Sep 2012

...two Occupies, and call me in the morning.




[center]"The revolution is not going to happen tomorrow -- it's never going to happen.

It's taking place right now.

It is an alternate universe that runs parallel to this one, waiting for you to switch sides."


EXPECT RESISTANCE

[/center]

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
70. great point! I think you nailed
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:20 PM
Sep 2012

the reason why today's republican party is so delusional/unreasonable!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
79. The conservative mind today (such that it is).....
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:45 PM
Sep 2012

...abhors change (i.e. - progress) like the plague. Such thinkers have generally never created anything of use to the profit of humanity as a whole, excepting for fear and dread. But that is its nature.

Thus, conservatives are likely to attempt to twist, bend and contort time, history and reality to make it conform to its own warped views. It's prime motivation for existence is selfishness and therefore they find it difficult to breed. When they do breed, it's often very close to incestuousness by nature of the limited gene pool, and which likely also accounts for the high levels of moronity one sees within this tribe as a whole.

In Nature, such a genetic grouping would (and will) become thankfully extinct over time, as few wish to interbreed with them unless under religious edict to do so (e.g. - The Romneys). However, what we often fail to remember is that it is the welfare state which liberals are generally responsible for creating, which ironically is also largely responsible for the conservative's continued existence.

- Now ain't that bit@#$.......

/hyperbole

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
39. Absolutely!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

Stewart, Colbert, the late great Carlin - they all dare say it like it is because that's how they generate revenue. Too bad more Faux News, CNNers, and Nightly News devotees don't watch Comedy Central for their enlightenment.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
63. He's right. So, yes, I do agree with him.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:33 PM
Sep 2012

I've been saying this for years. The repubs, especially the rabid ones, hate Democrats because they're their bogeymen. They NEED the Democrats to exist so they have someone to blame for anything and everything. They are miserable, so it's the Democrats who are responsible for their miserable lives. If they have any success, it's because they both deserved it and because they fought a hard battle against the evil Democrats and won. They are victorious!

 

Eatacig

(97 posts)
71. Yes
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:22 PM
Sep 2012

Hopefully this is the beginning of making it up to us in 2010 for backing the teabaggers. I
think that had alot to do with our losing. When young people saw him on Rachel Maddow,
defending them, they thought ok it must be cool.

spooky3

(34,461 posts)
78. What's baffling about it? It's all consistent with an extremely egomaniacal view of the world.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:31 PM
Sep 2012

My successes are due to my talent and hard work; any failures can't be my fault. I'm so superior to you that you have no talent and don't work hard, so of course I don't have to feel bad if you are struggling, because that's your fault and you are looking for a handout. There is no such thing as good luck or privilege.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
91. America really is a frightening place if so many Americans think like this
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 05:57 AM
Sep 2012

It really is a national disgrace that so many Americans think like this.

LakeErieLiberal

(37 posts)
85. I absolutely agree.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:27 AM
Sep 2012

Nobody ever suggests that their success had anything to do with the whims of the market i.e. a little luck. Success was always one's own hard work. Democrats do not punish success! We cherish it! We just have a more enlightened self-interest, IMHO.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
97. I've been on here for years and regularly disagreeing with the masses.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:27 AM
Sep 2012

I've never even had a mod warning. It's all in how you present your dissenting viewpoint, not just that you have one.

 

Ian62

(604 posts)
93. I absolutely agree
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:49 AM
Sep 2012

You should see some of the cognitive dissonance going on right now on RWNJ discussion forums.

Even when the latest polls are put in front of their eyes, they choose to believe Faux News selective information (e.g. Rasmussen) bending the polls 4 or 5 points towards Romney and it's still a close race.

The other 10 pollsters are ALL wrong, only Rasmussen is right. LOL

They refuse to believe that anybody would not vote for Romney.
It is everybody else that is ignorant and crazy, not them.

Even when presented with evidence from a multitude of credible sources (and even some GOP RWNJ's) that Romney is a terrible candidate, with an appalling track record and terrible policies, they fall back on empty ignorant emotional rhetoric, parroting Faux.

They can't give a single reason with any evidence to counter argue a single one of the 101 reasons I give them as to why Romney is bad for America.

The GOP is now a cult, with cult members who have lost the power to think for themselves (if they ever had it).
They have been brainwashed over many years by a barrage of Faux News propaganda into a bunch of unthinking, ignorant, bloodthirsty savages.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
96. General human optimism corrupted
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 07:19 AM
Sep 2012

by success. Depressed people who actually see things logically balanced or in real evidence term are not the norm or the elan and fight for life would have the energy sucked out of it. The mere knowledge of frailty, mortality, limits and ultimate breakdown of order should have us behaving more rationally but the energies and emotions from which thoughts spring have to be life progressive, blissfully defiant up to the strong urge to not only risk but deny danger.

The particular disease of the super successful is to far surpass the natural bias and consider success in denying even the rudiments of reason. Some wealthy people who are thus afflicted still can have love of their close ones and class and even compassion. Still, their life experience is crippling, their denial more agitated and extreme.

The upside down world where our species is led and controlled to a fatal degree by corrupted "optimism" does not bode well at all for survival. Intelligence at some stage must surmount its animal nature and cope with itself as well as doing the "impossible" regarding any fatally hostile world. Logically, I suppose we are doomed while I somehow retain my inner sense of optimism. I notice a lot of horrified awakening climate scientists are doing the same.

The only truth and good judgment in "modern times" seems the purvey of dark humorists, not pundits, holy men or statesmen or scientists.

BEZERKO

(592 posts)
98. I love watching his show every day,
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:52 AM
Sep 2012

but there is a lot he doesn't understand. The problem is that there are two contrasting worldviews. They see government and taxation as something that takes money away from people who have earned it and gives it away to people who haven't. They drive around on the roads, call the police when they need help, call the fire department when their house is on fire, access the internet, and all the other ways they profit from government investment, and they think they don't owe anybody anything. It's up to us to tell them that public investment makes private success possible. There is no private without the public.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
105. I do on most of his rants
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:42 PM
Sep 2012

Last night he seemed to be bashing Michelle Obama's push for healthy foods in schools. Government funded lunches that actually have healthy choices. The option of fruit or veggies if you are still hungry after the meal.

This follows on the heels of his ridiculing Mayor Bloomberg's new laws about restricting the size of sugary drinks.

I guess he's trying to prove to a certain segment that he can have a limit to the "nannie state" as well. But obesity in children in the USA is an epidemic. Its a health issue and its also a medical cost issue down the road. I may not like all of Bloombergs initiatives but those leaders in the US like the mayor and Michelle that actually step out of the shadows and attempt to chip away at this growing problem are demonized enough by the Libertarian/Teabag/Rethugs. No need to pile on.

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