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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLast night I heard Romney refer to himself as a 'pastor'
I came of age as LDS and I don't think a branch president, or ward bishop ever did much in the way of pastoral activity.
Back then sermons were given by congregation members either upon volunteering or on request. Sermon like messages weren't given very often by the local leaders, who mostly functioned as managers.
Personal counseling is something that they may have done, but I never saw any of that. The structure of contact with home/visiting teacher was more a source of interactions that led to helping families and individuals.
Is Romney trying to relate to the Huckabee republicans by conflating his bishopric as being the equivalent of a 'pastor' in a protestant church? Is this a rhetorical tool to win back some of the fundies who saw him as a cult leader?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Willard will just say what ever sounds good
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)He is nothing if not very very careful with his word choice. He almost always means exactly what he says, but he means it in a way that other people wouldn't take from the way he says it.
noel711
(2,185 posts)Now I don't know the requirements for ordination in the LDS...
and I do know there are many wolves masquerading as sheep
within the confines of many a church body...
BUT what I do know, and live, is that many of us who have
followed a spiritual calling to pastoral leadership,
live simply (so others may simply live),
and live in a way that promotes honesty, liberality,
kindness, compassion and social justice.
No one I know has a car elevator or a dancing horse.
Would Jesus have....?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)It's mostly a member of being a good mason, oops I mean mormon, to get promoted to the next degree, oops again I mean different offices in their two priesthoods.
KG
(28,751 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)But Christian fundies ain't buyin' it.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)As I posted there, apparently the LDS church is using pastoral nomenclature more frequently these days
minaflewis
(2 posts)Grew up Mormon. They NEVER use that term and still don't...but perhaps tomorrow they will to cover! LOL. THe requirements for Pastor are normally as follows.. Major in the appropriate undergraduate degree. After obtaining a bachelor's, apply to a Masters or Doctorate divinity program. There will be requirements for the degree, such as an internship. After completing all of the requirements for the advanced degree, contact the denomination and state licensing board to complete the steps to becoming a licensed minister Did he do any of that ? NO. He is not qualified to ba a " PASTOR"! So what does that tell you? His calling himself so...was a MISCONCEPTION about himself... and on the MISCONCEPTION question... he lied to get votes. There are no requirement to be a BIshop except to be asked to be so. It is like calling yourself the President of The Girls Scouts of America...when you were asked to be your Brownie Troup leader once or twice in the course of your girl scout experience. It was highly obnoxious and misleading.
I spent 14 years as a Mormon. THe only people that would agree to that switch are now Mormons who desperately want "one of theirs" to win and are going to say he did it becuase it was a more understood term....or Mainline Christians who are voting for him who have never stepped in a Mormon church to know that it was complete and utter nonsense!
He would never qualify on a resume to serve in a pastoral position...so it was a HUGE stretch!
Indpndnt
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