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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:43 PM Sep 2012

Last night I heard Romney refer to himself as a 'pastor'

I came of age as LDS and I don't think a branch president, or ward bishop ever did much in the way of pastoral activity.

Back then sermons were given by congregation members either upon volunteering or on request. Sermon like messages weren't given very often by the local leaders, who mostly functioned as managers.

Personal counseling is something that they may have done, but I never saw any of that. The structure of contact with home/visiting teacher was more a source of interactions that led to helping families and individuals.

Is Romney trying to relate to the Huckabee republicans by conflating his bishopric as being the equivalent of a 'pastor' in a protestant church? Is this a rhetorical tool to win back some of the fundies who saw him as a cult leader?

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Last night I heard Romney refer to himself as a 'pastor' (Original Post) HereSince1628 Sep 2012 OP
If you want facts you have to listen to democrats Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #1
I'm mostly interested in what Mr. Etch-a-Sketch is up to with his rhetoric HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #3
If he's a pastor, I'm the Queen of Sheba... noel711 Sep 2012 #2
The LDS start getting ordained at age 12 HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #4
well, he sure put the 'prick' in bishopric... KG Sep 2012 #5
I think the answer to your question is "Yes". trof Sep 2012 #6
Prior thread on this had some good points on this too ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #7
I call BUllSHIZZZZZ ( as Mormons would say) ! minaflewis Oct 2012 #8
Thanks for clearing that up, minaflewis. Excellent points. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #9

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. I'm mostly interested in what Mr. Etch-a-Sketch is up to with his rhetoric
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

He is nothing if not very very careful with his word choice. He almost always means exactly what he says, but he means it in a way that other people wouldn't take from the way he says it.

noel711

(2,185 posts)
2. If he's a pastor, I'm the Queen of Sheba...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sep 2012

Now I don't know the requirements for ordination in the LDS...

and I do know there are many wolves masquerading as sheep
within the confines of many a church body...

BUT what I do know, and live, is that many of us who have
followed a spiritual calling to pastoral leadership,
live simply (so others may simply live),
and live in a way that promotes honesty, liberality,
kindness, compassion and social justice.
No one I know has a car elevator or a dancing horse.
Would Jesus have....?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. The LDS start getting ordained at age 12
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:55 PM
Sep 2012

It's mostly a member of being a good mason, oops I mean mormon, to get promoted to the next degree, oops again I mean different offices in their two priesthoods.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
7. Prior thread on this had some good points on this too
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:52 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021421890

As I posted there, apparently the LDS church is using pastoral nomenclature more frequently these days

minaflewis

(2 posts)
8. I call BUllSHIZZZZZ ( as Mormons would say) !
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

Grew up Mormon. They NEVER use that term and still don't...but perhaps tomorrow they will to cover! LOL. THe requirements for Pastor are normally as follows.. Major in the appropriate undergraduate degree. After obtaining a bachelor's, apply to a Masters or Doctorate divinity program. There will be requirements for the degree, such as an internship. After completing all of the requirements for the advanced degree, contact the denomination and state licensing board to complete the steps to becoming a licensed minister Did he do any of that ? NO. He is not qualified to ba a " PASTOR"! So what does that tell you? His calling himself so...was a MISCONCEPTION about himself... and on the MISCONCEPTION question... he lied to get votes. There are no requirement to be a BIshop except to be asked to be so. It is like calling yourself the President of The Girls Scouts of America...when you were asked to be your Brownie Troup leader once or twice in the course of your girl scout experience. It was highly obnoxious and misleading.

I spent 14 years as a Mormon. THe only people that would agree to that switch are now Mormons who desperately want "one of theirs" to win and are going to say he did it becuase it was a more understood term....or Mainline Christians who are voting for him who have never stepped in a Mormon church to know that it was complete and utter nonsense!

He would never qualify on a resume to serve in a pastoral position...so it was a HUGE stretch!

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