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MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:30 PM Oct 2012

I have never seen as many critical low class criticisms of a Dem nominee on DU

as I have seen this evening.

For shame. This is a debate. This is not a graduation with beach balls and confetti. This is not a campaign stop or stump. This is not a boxing ring, an NFL game or even a family argument. This is a sitting President who has to maintain a presidential persona even as he is confronted by a no account smirking no nothing rich white guy WHO may I remind all of you, thinks that 47% of us are dirt. That's right, Romney thinks that you are I are dirt.

Can you say that about Obama? Do you truly think he believes that Americans are dirt?

I'm sorry that those of you who bought into the media hype are somehow confused about the role of a sitting president during a debate. This was not meant to be an event in which one gladiator kills another. And really? Let's get real. ALL of our political processes may have become more sanitized but that IS NOT the fault of this president.

SO there you go. Tear up or tear me up. But be sure to grow up and vote.

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I have never seen as many critical low class criticisms of a Dem nominee on DU (Original Post) MichiganVote Oct 2012 OP
Actually, I would compare it to an NFL game.... sadbear Oct 2012 #1
:) Well on that I would agree. I usually get along w/Lehrer but not this time. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #2
Good analogy Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #10
Lehrer was a replacement ref, that's for sure. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #21
Yeah he was bad. The media will probably replace him w/Geraldo tho' MichiganVote Oct 2012 #32
Yeah? Well I think YOUR op is shameful. cali Oct 2012 #3
Agreed. Fearless Oct 2012 #4
I agree with you n/t actslikeacarrot Oct 2012 #40
Well said. FSogol Oct 2012 #5
I would call the debate a draw Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #6
Another cheap shopping center campaign stop, that's all Rmoney provided. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #8
Evidently everyone likes a bully liberal N proud Oct 2012 #7
Indeed. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #9
That's not quite it. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #17
And that's true. Its hard to find those pockets of civility in America today. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #35
"low-class criticisms"? Do we have a Divine-Right King now? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #11
Yes and since I'm going to bed soon I will be removing my crown until tomorrow. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #12
A few of us like to call it as we see it Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #13
Aww. sorry your feelings were hurt. But you'll get over it won't you. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #16
If my feelings were hurt whenever someone makes a dickish post on DU, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #24
Ok so stop coming here. I don't much care what you do and few others will too. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #30
Perhaps you misunderstood my post? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #33
I don't know. Maybe for further amusement? MichiganVote Oct 2012 #39
Yes. We're talking incredibly high stakes here. Four more years of GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #22
. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #14
I wanted to listen to what Obama was for, not what a repug was opposed to MichiganVote Oct 2012 #25
you know... i was thinking that too. we have become such an "entertainment" culture, seabeyond Oct 2012 #15
I like your reasoning too sea, critical thinking is a premium commodity these days MichiganVote Oct 2012 #18
Well said awake Oct 2012 #19
no fucking kidding. Whisp Oct 2012 #26
Yup. This is the proverbial Democratic dump on our own candidate phase. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #29
Obama was scowling at the podium the whole time Rmoney was speaking XemaSab Oct 2012 #20
not the way I saw it awake Oct 2012 #23
The whole time?? I think you're exaggerating some. Sides' I'd scowl if I had to stand MichiganVote Oct 2012 #27
YUP flyguyjake Oct 2012 #28
And Romney signed several times throughout. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #31
It's a discussion board LondonReign2 Oct 2012 #34
Once you define what a good debate is, we'll have to discuss it. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #37
Obama was far too passive LondonReign2 Oct 2012 #41
It is disgusting libtodeath Oct 2012 #36
Could be. Or it could be a wake up call to Dem's to focus on the positives re: our candidate. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #38
Never? progressoid Oct 2012 #42
Sure. But those were the primaries, not the current situation MichiganVote Oct 2012 #43
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. Yeah? Well I think YOUR op is shameful.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:35 PM
Oct 2012

No, it's not a gladiatorial event, but it is a debate. There will be a perceived winner and a perceived loser. No one has said that the President thinks anyone is dirt. There have been criticisms of his debate performance. And that, honey, is perfectly legitimate.

GoCubsGo

(32,087 posts)
17. That's not quite it.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:14 PM
Oct 2012

It seems to me that lots of people think that ignoring the debate rules, and stomping all over everyone like a big fucking bully is "winning". I keep reading about how much more aggressive Romney was, blah, blah, blah... Yet, everyone ignores the fact that he went outside the damn rules, and they're all letting him get away with it. Why bother having debate rules when you are going to let one of the debaters ignore them--and then turn around and bash the other guy for staying within the rules???

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
35. And that's true. Its hard to find those pockets of civility in America today.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oct 2012

And when it is encountered, people view it as a weakness. I will point out also, that while Millard had the option of primping all damn day, Syria killed people in Turkey, Turkey fired back and that I think that just might mean we have some serious shit about to happen.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
12. Yes and since I'm going to bed soon I will be removing my crown until tomorrow.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:10 PM
Oct 2012

Naturally you can't have it however.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. A few of us like to call it as we see it
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:10 PM
Oct 2012

regardless of whether you have bestowed to us from on high your approval for us to do that.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
16. Aww. sorry your feelings were hurt. But you'll get over it won't you.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

Afterall, its one of several debates. Some of us have the strength to wait and see and others well...

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
24. If my feelings were hurt whenever someone makes a dickish post on DU,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:18 PM
Oct 2012

I think I would stop coming here.

So while I appreciate your apology, it was not necessary.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
30. Ok so stop coming here. I don't much care what you do and few others will too.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:23 PM
Oct 2012

Its not like this is AA or something honey.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
33. Perhaps you misunderstood my post?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:26 PM
Oct 2012

I said that dickish posts *don't* hurt my feelings. If anything, they amuse me. So why would I stop coming here?

GreenPartyVoter

(72,381 posts)
22. Yes. We're talking incredibly high stakes here. Four more years of
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:17 PM
Oct 2012

directing the economic recovery, healthcare, social security, wars, possible SCOTUS appointments, and so on. We need a fired up candidate to bring along fired up voters to vote for him and down ticket. We can't afford for the other guys to get that fire and those down ticket votes.

Every moment counts.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
25. I wanted to listen to what Obama was for, not what a repug was opposed to
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:18 PM
Oct 2012

so I suppose somethings slide past me like others. Since the 8 long years of Bush I feel like I pretty much know the republican playbook. Nothing new.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. you know... i was thinking that too. we have become such an "entertainment" culture,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:11 PM
Oct 2012

and that is not what this is.

thanks.

awake

(3,226 posts)
19. Well said
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:15 PM
Oct 2012

our president was not talking to the left, I think that over the next few days as Mitts lies are exposed Obama will be seen to have Won.

Unless the left keeps spinning it for Mitt!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
26. no fucking kidding.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:20 PM
Oct 2012

I am so disgusted with the Eds and Beaks on msnbc and their rage against the obama machine. I haven't read much here just yet but I am sure disgust will pour forth from that cornucopia as well.

I want to puke.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
29. Yup. This is the proverbial Democratic dump on our own candidate phase.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

We Democrats have perfected it.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
27. The whole time?? I think you're exaggerating some. Sides' I'd scowl if I had to stand
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:20 PM
Oct 2012

next to that aged Ken doll too. So that's ok with me. Rmoney is an asshole. I expect people who have to stand next to assholes to look dissatisfied, I would. Don't you?

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
31. And Romney signed several times throughout.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:24 PM
Oct 2012

I wonder if the media will attack him the way they attacked Gore.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
34. It's a discussion board
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:27 PM
Oct 2012

Not a cheerleading camp.

Virtually everyone here despises Mitt Romney. Unfortunately that doesn't mean the President had a good debate.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
37. Once you define what a good debate is, we'll have to discuss it.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:32 PM
Oct 2012

Provided you can provide the substance to your point of view that Obama, and not Rmoney, gave to the audience this evening.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
41. Obama was far too passive
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

He let lie after lie go by unchallenged time and time again. While you can be rightfully outraged that Romney lied repeatedly,and you can say it is good Obama stayed Presidential, that fact that he let the lies go without refuting them gives them legitimacy with voters who do not know better.

The snap polls are are agreeing with this, unfortunately.

Obama can and will get the momentum back, but this was not a good night for him.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
43. Sure. But those were the primaries, not the current situation
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:21 PM
Oct 2012

Good times tho'. Some the best arguments for or against I've ever read.

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