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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have never seen as many critical low class criticisms of a Dem nominee on DU
as I have seen this evening.
For shame. This is a debate. This is not a graduation with beach balls and confetti. This is not a campaign stop or stump. This is not a boxing ring, an NFL game or even a family argument. This is a sitting President who has to maintain a presidential persona even as he is confronted by a no account smirking no nothing rich white guy WHO may I remind all of you, thinks that 47% of us are dirt. That's right, Romney thinks that you are I are dirt.
Can you say that about Obama? Do you truly think he believes that Americans are dirt?
I'm sorry that those of you who bought into the media hype are somehow confused about the role of a sitting president during a debate. This was not meant to be an event in which one gladiator kills another. And really? Let's get real. ALL of our political processes may have become more sanitized but that IS NOT the fault of this president.
SO there you go. Tear up or tear me up. But be sure to grow up and vote.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)you know, the ones with the replacement refs.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Considering Lehrer's moderating
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)No, it's not a gladiatorial event, but it is a debate. There will be a perceived winner and a perceived loser. No one has said that the President thinks anyone is dirt. There have been criticisms of his debate performance. And that, honey, is perfectly legitimate.
actslikeacarrot
(464 posts).
FSogol
(45,524 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Willard continues to never give any specifics
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)liberal N proud
(60,340 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,087 posts)It seems to me that lots of people think that ignoring the debate rules, and stomping all over everyone like a big fucking bully is "winning". I keep reading about how much more aggressive Romney was, blah, blah, blah... Yet, everyone ignores the fact that he went outside the damn rules, and they're all letting him get away with it. Why bother having debate rules when you are going to let one of the debaters ignore them--and then turn around and bash the other guy for staying within the rules???
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)And when it is encountered, people view it as a weakness. I will point out also, that while Millard had the option of primping all damn day, Syria killed people in Turkey, Turkey fired back and that I think that just might mean we have some serious shit about to happen.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Naturally you can't have it however.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)regardless of whether you have bestowed to us from on high your approval for us to do that.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Afterall, its one of several debates. Some of us have the strength to wait and see and others well...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I think I would stop coming here.
So while I appreciate your apology, it was not necessary.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Its not like this is AA or something honey.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I said that dickish posts *don't* hurt my feelings. If anything, they amuse me. So why would I stop coming here?
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)directing the economic recovery, healthcare, social security, wars, possible SCOTUS appointments, and so on. We need a fired up candidate to bring along fired up voters to vote for him and down ticket. We can't afford for the other guys to get that fire and those down ticket votes.
Every moment counts.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)so I suppose somethings slide past me like others. Since the 8 long years of Bush I feel like I pretty much know the republican playbook. Nothing new.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and that is not what this is.
thanks.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)our president was not talking to the left, I think that over the next few days as Mitts lies are exposed Obama will be seen to have Won.
Unless the left keeps spinning it for Mitt!
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I am so disgusted with the Eds and Beaks on msnbc and their rage against the obama machine. I haven't read much here just yet but I am sure disgust will pour forth from that cornucopia as well.
I want to puke.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)We Democrats have perfected it.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)His body language was terrible.
awake
(3,226 posts)Mitt looked like he was on crack
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)next to that aged Ken doll too. So that's ok with me. Rmoney is an asshole. I expect people who have to stand next to assholes to look dissatisfied, I would. Don't you?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)I wonder if the media will attack him the way they attacked Gore.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Not a cheerleading camp.
Virtually everyone here despises Mitt Romney. Unfortunately that doesn't mean the President had a good debate.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Provided you can provide the substance to your point of view that Obama, and not Rmoney, gave to the audience this evening.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)He let lie after lie go by unchallenged time and time again. While you can be rightfully outraged that Romney lied repeatedly,and you can say it is good Obama stayed Presidential, that fact that he let the lies go without refuting them gives them legitimacy with voters who do not know better.
The snap polls are are agreeing with this, unfortunately.
Obama can and will get the momentum back, but this was not a good night for him.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)progressoid
(49,998 posts)You're kidding right?
Uh, do you remember the '08 primaries?
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Good times tho'. Some the best arguments for or against I've ever read.