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highplainsdem

(49,032 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:04 AM Oct 2012

Kos: A loss, but not a game-changing one

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/03/1139588/-A-loss-but-not-a-game-changing-one

So looking at the snap polls, it's clear that the president got spanked tonight. It's one thing to play prevent defense, which is what he was doing, and it was another to completely ignore Mitt Romney and let lie after lie stand unchallenged. It was another thing to refuse to defend Social Security.

If you've got 67 percent of viewers saying Romney won (per CNN's snap poll), that means a significant number of the president's supporters were unhappy with the president's performance. Just 25 percent gave Barack Obama the win. That's gotta change.

That said, was there anything in this debate that would change the dynamics of the race? Was anything tonight worse than Romney's Benghazi disaster, or his 47 percent video?

If debate victories led to electoral victories, we never would've had President George W. Bush. And we would've had a President Hillary Clinton. There was no gaffe that Republicans and the media can point to, no defining "moment" that will recast the race. What happened is that Romney looked livelier and more aggressive while Obama looked listless and disconnected. It certainly created a bad night for our side, but nothing lasting.

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8:51 PM PT: Incredible:

silver lining for Obama in post-debate poll: fave/unfave numbers for both candidates mostly unchanged.
— @PeterHambyCNN via web


That's the same snap poll that shows Romney winning handily. So if he didn't fix his favorables with this debate, it means his victory was worth ZERO.

Let me be clear, the only thing that makes Romney viable is if people start liking him more. That's the only thing out of this gaffe-less debate that could impact the broader race. If it didn't happen (and we'll still wait on additional polling to confirm), then this debate will have as much relevance to this election as pretty much every other debate since the Reagan-Carter one.
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Kos: A loss, but not a game-changing one (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2012 OP
I think Orangeville shouldn't let the Big Media outlets "lead" on this. MADem Oct 2012 #1

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I think Orangeville shouldn't let the Big Media outlets "lead" on this.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:09 AM
Oct 2012

It's not a "loss" when you tell the truth and your opponent lies. That will be shown as the comments are fact-checked.

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