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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:27 AM Oct 2012

When you are the incumbent, you can't be the attack dog.

From my recollection of my days studying group psychology and sociology, prosecutors and those who are promoting change/action are more successful at persuading audiences to their views when they are aggressive and highly critical.

Defense requires a different approach - one that is polite but firm and unyielding. Obama - as the incumbent - could not be the attack dog last night and persuade independents, because if he had done so, he would have been perceived as a bully.

So, basically, I think he did a very good job. Romney also did well, but if the debates were a draw, then Obama lost no ground.

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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. When refuting the lie (which President Obama did on multiple ocassions)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:41 AM
Oct 2012

when does one start looking like he doesn't know what he's talking about when the person continues to hold the line on his lie?

President Obama refuted Romney's tax lie many times, yet Romney continually lied that what the President was saying wasn't true. If President Obama kept stating the opposite, how does that look to people? To me it looks like the President doesn't have HIS facts straight because Romney was lying with such conviction. The only way he could have possibly won that exchange, or any other that Romney insisted using lies to refute his original position is to state, bluntly, that Romney was lying. For some reason, that's seen as bad politics... to call a liar a liar but it's the only way he could have derailed Mittens, IMO. Guaranteed, had he done that, we'd have been happy but many others wouldn't have been.

still_one

(92,382 posts)
9. To you who watch and listen perhaps, but not to an undecided voter, who is hearing about it for the
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:24 PM
Oct 2012

first time

You don't have to directly call someone a liar to point out their contradictions and lies


 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
2. One can refute and correct without being seen as a "bully" on the "attack." BTW: Since when is
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:29 AM
Oct 2012

politics like a court trial? Are you saying Obama is the DEFENDANT?

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. The idea is that when you have an inherent advantage
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:37 AM
Oct 2012

such as currently holding the contested office, voters and those who hire you want to have faith that you are being 'fair'.

And yes, Obama is a defendant in the figurative sense - defending against Romney's charges against him. That's how he has to play his cards.

You disagree?

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
3. In the Midst of the 1992 Primaries,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:34 AM
Oct 2012

Clinton, the front runner, was losing steam before the NY primary and Jerry Brown was making a serious move to overtake him. However, he started almost snarling and yelling and turned into a histrionic attack dog. Also starting about a flat tax. He never recovered from that performance.

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