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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid anyone else see Ann and family snub the Obamas on the stage after the debate?
I watched C-SPAN until the bitter end, so I don't know if Queen Ann's treatment of the Obamas was broadcast anywhere else, but it was vile. Ann kept her back to Michelle and refused to acknowledge her or the President. It's obvious that rudeness is Ann's natural state, and she can't even fake it when people are watching. If there was any doubt that Ann is nothing more than a spoiled child, it is gone now.
Sure things will be more civil with a President Willard, just watch his family.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)eyeontheprize
(349 posts)Ann was forced to acknowledge Michelle because Michelle forced it before she left. Michelle positioned herself in a way that Queen Ann couldn't avoid, took QA's hand and said it was nice to meet you (or so it appeared).
The Romneys' have no class. They're showy with their wealth, and have not learned even basic polite behavior.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Not only Ann, but the boys were ignoring Michelle and Obama, as well.
Thank you for acknowledging I wasn't imagining things.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)since it speaks so loudly to the character of the Romney clan.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)... get as first lady. If the first lady did that she would be picked apart by the press.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and shaking hands (for what it's worth, I ususally call Ann Marie Antoinette - no love lost there). Just don't like untrue memes getting started.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/03/michelle-obama-ann-romney-debate_n_1937748.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
they shook hands before the debate started, so shaking hands and greeting one another was not really necessary after the debate. I thought something smelled fishy about this OP.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)eyeontheprize
(349 posts)if you made an affectionate display for cameras earlier?
Who knew that you only had to employ common courtesies once an evening? Or does Ann ever have to show basic decency to Michelle ever again, since she did it once.
Good God, people here do love their Romneys.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Seems like some kind of acknowledgement after would have been appropriate
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)Don't know when the hug took place, but Ann and her clan snubbed the Obama's at the end of the debate. Ann likely didn't think there was any tape of her actions, she knows when people are watching.
It is possible both things are true, but your claim that I'm a liar is trollish.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Your OP was kinda implying that Ann Romney never acknowledged the Obamas in any way, so you are busted in a way.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)You can falsely characterize my description, but the fact remains.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)This isn't the same camera angle as was aired last night, but there was no hug, and Ann ignores Michelle when the Obama's came over. http://www.c-span.org/Debates/
You can defend the Romney Clan out the wazoo if you like, but Ann was rude when she thought it didn't matter.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I said the OP was wrong that Ann never acknowledged Michelle.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)And both the President and First Lady shaking hands and talking with at least some of the Romneys - skip the last of the debate and start at 20 minutes:
Yes, Ann Romney DID turn her back to Michelle, but she was introducing her family to the President.
Yeah, that's what happened. And the boys ignored Michelle because they deferred to the president.
I hope you're just spinning and don't actually believe what you claim.
At least no one is pretending there was a hug at the end anymore.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)The video clearly shows smiles all around as Ann Romney introduces the president to her family. Nice try.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)Heaven forbid that the Romney trash be called out. It's wrong to "try" such a thing.
ArnoldLayne
(2,068 posts)did good. Of course Pres. Obama did better in my opinion but I am for him 100% not Gov. Romney. And good grief Ann Romney was not rude here she was introducing her family to the President..I mean come on.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and I'm no fan of either Romney (or their spawn).
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)she gave her the phoniest smile I've seen in ages.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Then it will sink in to more than a few media people that Romney's strategy is to bring out the angry black man in Obama.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)speak directly to Pres. and Mrs. Obama, shaking hands, smiling, right after they took the stage and the group had a very pleasant demeanor. There was none of the customary kiss greetings we often see but it was nice.
Can be viewed at 1:31:25 in this video:
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)they do it in horror movies.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)unless you're talking about the Ann/Willard hug. It looks better than on C-Span in this clip, the C-cpan view was higher, so you could catch more.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)etc.
not hugging someone isn't snubbing them.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)during almost the entirety of the encounter. I get that the rules don't apply to the Romneys, now I understand why.
The straw man you've created is nonsense, I didn't say that the failure to hug is a snub, you pulled that one out of the air. What I did say is turning your back to the first lady is a snub, unless, apparently, you are Ann Romney.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)jackbenimble
(251 posts)Is that after the debate, and after President Obama and Romney shook hands, Obama went to the moderator and spoke with or shook hands but romney went directly to his family and ppeared not to acknowledge the moderator at all. Maybe I missed something later but that is what I saw at the time I changed the channel. Skipped all the talk afterward because opinions mean nothing. Waiting for the fact check today. Looks like I was right to do that.
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)The encounter I described was much more clear from a camera angle that isn't online anymore.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Noticed Mittens didn't bother with the "help" (moderator). Classless.
Julie
jackbenimble
(251 posts)And mitt finally did acknowledge Lehrer after the poor man stood around forever waiting. I think most of the rmoney kids had at least said hello to him before mitt even noticed he was there. Shameful, and telling.
Missycim
(950 posts)but did the Obama family snub them? Just because they are the first family doesn't mean they can't go to another family first.
Since from what I read that both Obama and Romney don't like each other maybe it passed onto their spouses?
At any rate, WHO GIVES A CRAP? isn't there much more to care about?
eyeontheprize
(349 posts)It is the right thing to do, this is America after all.
It matters because it represents the hatred the Romneys can't pretend to set aside, and the impossibility that they will act any differently from all Republicans in Washington.
Missycim
(950 posts)but why is it if Ann doesn't go over its a snub but if Mechelle doesn't it isn't a snub? You can't have it both ways.
ArnoldLayne
(2,068 posts)handed to him like everyone is saying. They both gave a spirited debate. Romney did not beat him I do call it a draw though in my opinion. But I'm partial to Pres.Obama so whoever is your guy that's who won. Tweety, Big Ed, Joe Scab. and whoever said Obama lost is full of Shit..Done.. next debate come on!!
siligut
(12,272 posts)Michelle even did the warm, hand at the small of the back gesture toward Ann, I don't know if she actually touched her. Ann did not turn, maybe she was more interested in her family, but seriously, it made her appear boorish. But since we know Ann is a chocolate-coated turd, I actually didn't expect better.
From what I saw, the first couple recognized what they were dealing with and quietly chose to exit the stage. Did you see the Romneys up on stage after? Like oooh, look at us, like it was some sort of prize/victory. I even think they took pictures of themselves with Jim Lehrer . . .OK, maybe that was my imagination, but really, it was just weird.
frylock
(34,825 posts)oh brother!