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eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:46 PM Oct 2012

Did anyone else see Ann and family snub the Obamas on the stage after the debate?

I watched C-SPAN until the bitter end, so I don't know if Queen Ann's treatment of the Obamas was broadcast anywhere else, but it was vile. Ann kept her back to Michelle and refused to acknowledge her or the President. It's obvious that rudeness is Ann's natural state, and she can't even fake it when people are watching. If there was any doubt that Ann is nothing more than a spoiled child, it is gone now.

Sure things will be more civil with a President Willard, just watch his family.

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Did anyone else see Ann and family snub the Obamas on the stage after the debate? (Original Post) eyeontheprize Oct 2012 OP
Maybe she shook hands off camera quinnox Oct 2012 #1
Nope, I watched until the Obamas walked off the stage eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #4
Well, well. I wasn't seeing things? Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #2
It's a damn shame that it will be lost to the memory hole eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #5
She did look like she was pissed to be there. I could just picture the bad press she would ... hrmjustin Oct 2012 #3
Video of Michelle and Ann hugging leftynyc Oct 2012 #6
I knew it quinnox Oct 2012 #8
But the demeanor afterwards was totally different. DevonRex Oct 2012 #13
It's proper etiquette to turn your back away from the First Lady when she approaches eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #26
That was BEFORE the debate. DevonRex Oct 2012 #9
Think that was before the debate, not after Rose Siding Oct 2012 #11
I recorded it, and it is most certainly the truth eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #12
So you are mad that they didn't do two greetings? quinnox Oct 2012 #15
If you read my words, I was very clear about the end of the debate eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #18
An untruth is a lie. eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #22
I didn't call you a liar leftynyc Oct 2012 #17
Video of President Obama shaking hands with Ann Romney csziggy Oct 2012 #20
LOL eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #23
that video completely busts your OP quinnox Oct 2012 #25
Yes it was a nice try. eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #28
I just watched this clip and I think they both ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #33
I saw the same leftynyc Oct 2012 #38
And when she did shake Michelle's hand nichomachus Oct 2012 #37
Just wait until THAT gets some airplay today or tomorrow. DevonRex Oct 2012 #7
I saw her ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2012 #10
The moderator's eyes are so black in that video it makes him look possessed -- like the way HiPointDem Oct 2012 #14
The camera angle is different but there was no hug at the end eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #16
she didn't snub them at all. you can clearly see her talking to them, introducing her kids to them, HiPointDem Oct 2012 #21
That is in no way clear, since Ann had her back turned to Michelle eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #27
It's completely clear from the video the other poster put up. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #31
What I noticed jackbenimble Oct 2012 #19
It continued for a little while longer. eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #24
That is how I saw it too. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #36
Just watched the CSPAN replay jackbenimble Oct 2012 #40
Not to play devils advocate Missycim Oct 2012 #29
How is collegial mingling after a debate a snub? eyeontheprize Oct 2012 #30
I agree mingling is a good thing Missycim Oct 2012 #32
Where do people get that Pres. Obama got his ass ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #34
I saw Michelle standing behind Ann and it seemed that Michelle was trying to be polite siligut Oct 2012 #35
ermahgerd! frylock Oct 2012 #39

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
4. Nope, I watched until the Obamas walked off the stage
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:55 PM
Oct 2012

Ann was forced to acknowledge Michelle because Michelle forced it before she left. Michelle positioned herself in a way that Queen Ann couldn't avoid, took QA's hand and said it was nice to meet you (or so it appeared).

The Romneys' have no class. They're showy with their wealth, and have not learned even basic polite behavior.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. Well, well. I wasn't seeing things?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:50 PM
Oct 2012

Not only Ann, but the boys were ignoring Michelle and Obama, as well.

Thank you for acknowledging I wasn't imagining things.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
5. It's a damn shame that it will be lost to the memory hole
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

since it speaks so loudly to the character of the Romney clan.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. She did look like she was pissed to be there. I could just picture the bad press she would ...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:52 PM
Oct 2012

... get as first lady. If the first lady did that she would be picked apart by the press.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
6. Video of Michelle and Ann hugging
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:58 PM
Oct 2012

and shaking hands (for what it's worth, I ususally call Ann Marie Antoinette - no love lost there). Just don't like untrue memes getting started.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/03/michelle-obama-ann-romney-debate_n_1937748.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
8. I knew it
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:01 PM
Oct 2012

they shook hands before the debate started, so shaking hands and greeting one another was not really necessary after the debate. I thought something smelled fishy about this OP.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
26. It's proper etiquette to turn your back away from the First Lady when she approaches
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:28 PM
Oct 2012

if you made an affectionate display for cameras earlier?

Who knew that you only had to employ common courtesies once an evening? Or does Ann ever have to show basic decency to Michelle ever again, since she did it once.

Good God, people here do love their Romneys.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
11. Think that was before the debate, not after
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012

Seems like some kind of acknowledgement after would have been appropriate

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
12. I recorded it, and it is most certainly the truth
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012

Don't know when the hug took place, but Ann and her clan snubbed the Obama's at the end of the debate. Ann likely didn't think there was any tape of her actions, she knows when people are watching.

It is possible both things are true, but your claim that I'm a liar is trollish.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
15. So you are mad that they didn't do two greetings?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:06 PM
Oct 2012

Your OP was kinda implying that Ann Romney never acknowledged the Obamas in any way, so you are busted in a way.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
18. If you read my words, I was very clear about the end of the debate
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

You can falsely characterize my description, but the fact remains.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
22. An untruth is a lie.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:18 PM
Oct 2012

This isn't the same camera angle as was aired last night, but there was no hug, and Ann ignores Michelle when the Obama's came over. http://www.c-span.org/Debates/

You can defend the Romney Clan out the wazoo if you like, but Ann was rude when she thought it didn't matter.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
20. Video of President Obama shaking hands with Ann Romney
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

And both the President and First Lady shaking hands and talking with at least some of the Romneys - skip the last of the debate and start at 20 minutes:



Yes, Ann Romney DID turn her back to Michelle, but she was introducing her family to the President.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
23. LOL
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

Yeah, that's what happened. And the boys ignored Michelle because they deferred to the president.

I hope you're just spinning and don't actually believe what you claim.

At least no one is pretending there was a hug at the end anymore.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
25. that video completely busts your OP
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oct 2012

The video clearly shows smiles all around as Ann Romney introduces the president to her family. Nice try.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
28. Yes it was a nice try.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:37 PM
Oct 2012

Heaven forbid that the Romney trash be called out. It's wrong to "try" such a thing.

ArnoldLayne

(2,068 posts)
33. I just watched this clip and I think they both
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oct 2012

did good. Of course Pres. Obama did better in my opinion but I am for him 100% not Gov. Romney. And good grief Ann Romney was not rude here she was introducing her family to the President..I mean come on.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
7. Just wait until THAT gets some airplay today or tomorrow.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:59 PM
Oct 2012

Then it will sink in to more than a few media people that Romney's strategy is to bring out the angry black man in Obama.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
10. I saw her
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:02 PM
Oct 2012

speak directly to Pres. and Mrs. Obama, shaking hands, smiling, right after they took the stage and the group had a very pleasant demeanor. There was none of the customary kiss greetings we often see but it was nice.

Can be viewed at 1:31:25 in this video:

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
14. The moderator's eyes are so black in that video it makes him look possessed -- like the way
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:06 PM
Oct 2012

they do it in horror movies.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
16. The camera angle is different but there was no hug at the end
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:08 PM
Oct 2012

unless you're talking about the Ann/Willard hug. It looks better than on C-Span in this clip, the C-cpan view was higher, so you could catch more.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
21. she didn't snub them at all. you can clearly see her talking to them, introducing her kids to them,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

etc.

not hugging someone isn't snubbing them.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
27. That is in no way clear, since Ann had her back turned to Michelle
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:34 PM
Oct 2012

during almost the entirety of the encounter. I get that the rules don't apply to the Romneys, now I understand why.

The straw man you've created is nonsense, I didn't say that the failure to hug is a snub, you pulled that one out of the air. What I did say is turning your back to the first lady is a snub, unless, apparently, you are Ann Romney.

jackbenimble

(251 posts)
19. What I noticed
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:12 PM
Oct 2012

Is that after the debate, and after President Obama and Romney shook hands, Obama went to the moderator and spoke with or shook hands but romney went directly to his family and ppeared not to acknowledge the moderator at all. Maybe I missed something later but that is what I saw at the time I changed the channel. Skipped all the talk afterward because opinions mean nothing. Waiting for the fact check today. Looks like I was right to do that.

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
24. It continued for a little while longer.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oct 2012

The encounter I described was much more clear from a camera angle that isn't online anymore.

jackbenimble

(251 posts)
40. Just watched the CSPAN replay
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:13 PM
Oct 2012

And mitt finally did acknowledge Lehrer after the poor man stood around forever waiting. I think most of the rmoney kids had at least said hello to him before mitt even noticed he was there. Shameful, and telling.

 

Missycim

(950 posts)
29. Not to play devils advocate
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

but did the Obama family snub them? Just because they are the first family doesn't mean they can't go to another family first.


Since from what I read that both Obama and Romney don't like each other maybe it passed onto their spouses?


At any rate, WHO GIVES A CRAP? isn't there much more to care about?

eyeontheprize

(349 posts)
30. How is collegial mingling after a debate a snub?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:43 PM
Oct 2012

It is the right thing to do, this is America after all.

It matters because it represents the hatred the Romneys can't pretend to set aside, and the impossibility that they will act any differently from all Republicans in Washington.

 

Missycim

(950 posts)
32. I agree mingling is a good thing
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:55 PM
Oct 2012

but why is it if Ann doesn't go over its a snub but if Mechelle doesn't it isn't a snub? You can't have it both ways.

ArnoldLayne

(2,068 posts)
34. Where do people get that Pres. Obama got his ass
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

handed to him like everyone is saying. They both gave a spirited debate. Romney did not beat him I do call it a draw though in my opinion. But I'm partial to Pres.Obama so whoever is your guy that's who won. Tweety, Big Ed, Joe Scab. and whoever said Obama lost is full of Shit..Done.. next debate come on!!

siligut

(12,272 posts)
35. I saw Michelle standing behind Ann and it seemed that Michelle was trying to be polite
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

Michelle even did the warm, hand at the small of the back gesture toward Ann, I don't know if she actually touched her. Ann did not turn, maybe she was more interested in her family, but seriously, it made her appear boorish. But since we know Ann is a chocolate-coated turd, I actually didn't expect better.

From what I saw, the first couple recognized what they were dealing with and quietly chose to exit the stage. Did you see the Romneys up on stage after? Like oooh, look at us, like it was some sort of prize/victory. I even think they took pictures of themselves with Jim Lehrer . . .OK, maybe that was my imagination, but really, it was just weird.

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