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rainlillie

(1,095 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:52 PM Oct 2012

Romney didn't come prepared with "zingers," he came prepared with LIES!

From the time Romney became the nominee, I've said the ONLY way he can win a debate against President Obama is; if he lied, and the moderator didn't call him out. If you go by who lied and was evasive Mitt won, if you go by who was honest and gave specifics President Obama won.

It's stomach- turning to hear the MSM say Romney" lied," but he won. It is damn near impossible to win a debate with a liar, because no road is too low for them to travel down. Your arguments are based on facts and their arguments are based on lies.

This is the age of reality TV, folks are used to lame reality shows, where belligerent drunks cause fights. The person they're trying to pick a fight with may walk away, or stand there and watch them self-destruct. Does that mean that the person who didn't engage in the fight lost.. no of course not.

When the dust has settled and the fact-checkers finish combing through the debate, Romney will be revealed for the liar that he is. Romney is like a used care salesman, he'll say anything to close the deal. You know the local ads for lawyers, asking if you've ever been hurt in an accident, that's who Romney and Ryan remind me of.

Folks it, seems like the truth doesn't matter to those on the right, winning does. There's no way in hell I would support someone who stood on the stage and lied with such ease. If I did, I would have to check my moral compass. This was a warm up.. CHILL! The fight continues.

TAX BREAKS FOR SHIPPING JOBS OVERSEAS


"Romney challenged Obama's statement that companies can take a tax deduction for shipping jobs overseas. " "Look, I've been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you are talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant. The idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is simply not the case," Romney said.

What Obama was actually describing was a tax break for ordinary business expense, including deductions allowed for a company if it closes its plant in the United States and moves it to another country.

In July, Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic proposal that would have provided a tax credit to companies that move production back to the United States. It also would have ended the tax break that companies can claim when closing a domestic plant, even if operations are moving abroad.

DOES OBAMA'S PLAN CUT $716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE?

"Romney repeatedly cited a figure of $716 billion - saying Obama would cut that amount from Medicare to fund his healthcare overhaul. That claim has been rejected by Democrats and independent analysts.
Obama's healthcare law would slow payment increases for hospitals and insurers, something it views as a savings rather than as a cut to Medicare benefits or programs. It does not change the basket of benefits offered to patients.

The $716 billion figure is a Congressional Budget Office estimate of how much the law would save in Medicare spending from 2013 to 2022, compared with what would have occurred without reform. Those funds would be used to help expand health coverage to more than 30 million uninsured Americans.

Obama's Affordable Care Act also offers new benefits to the elderly, such as prescription drug rebates and discounts, and preventive tests including mammograms and cancer screenings without copays or deductibles under Medicare Part B, which covers visits to doctors' offices and outpatient clinics."

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rainlillie

(1,095 posts)
4. If Obama corrected Romney on his lies, he would not have had time to tell people about his
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

vision for the country. That said, he should have went after him on one of two of those lies.

andym

(5,445 posts)
5. He needed to combine his vision with the battle against Romney's lies
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:12 PM
Oct 2012

For example, "I believe in having everyone pay their fair share, especially the wealthy who have been given the opportunity to shirk their responsibilities, not a 20% marginal cut that you suddenly pretend doesn't exist even though its on your own website and costs 5 trillion dollars and inordinately helps the wealthy."

flamingdem

(39,320 posts)
6. The "psyche" put out by his handlers was the "zinger" idea
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

Let's not fall for more bullshit put out by his handlers.

They're all about LIES, at every step.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
7. I think he did come with zingers, but no opportunity to use them.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

I'm sure he had an ugly smackdown prepared for any reference to the 47%.

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