Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:28 PM Oct 2012

The next three debates have more favorable formats

The format for the first debate really needed a strong moderator. With Lehrer being so weak, it favored the lying bully. Obama made a conscious decision not to come across as argumentative or angry. That doesn't suit some people here, but deal with it. it was strategy, understanding that this was just one of 4 debaters and the debates themselves are a small part of the overall campaign. The number one mission was to not have a major change in the race, and that seems to be mission accomplished.

Looking ahead, Ryan and Biden go at it next week. We'll get all the red meat anybody could want in that session. And once again, it will not result in a big change.

The third debate is town hall format, which should favor Obama, and it is split between domestic and foreign affairs, again playing to an Obama advantage.

And the 4th debate is entirely on foreign affairs which is strongly to Obama's advantage.

So everybody, please chill. This is just one step in a long campaign.

Obama is not going to knock Romney out. He is going to allow Romney to continue to disqualify himself.

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The next three debates have more favorable formats (Original Post) BlueStreak Oct 2012 OP
Problem is creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #1
Lawrence O'Donnell alluded that Lehrer wanted to preside over a classical debate... immoderate Oct 2012 #2
FALSE, rMoney will talk THROUGH the mod and Obama...that's what he does...bring out a uponit7771 Oct 2012 #3
Problem is, the fourth debate won't matter... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #4
He can link foreign affairs to domestic issues BlueStreak Oct 2012 #6
Plus, no Jim Lehrer KamaAina Oct 2012 #5

creeksneakers2

(7,476 posts)
1. Problem is
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:38 PM
Oct 2012

Everybody is looking for Obama to bounce back by going after Romney. However, that can look bad in a town hall setting, as it will be called "not connecting with people."

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
2. Lawrence O'Donnell alluded that Lehrer wanted to preside over a classical debate...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:42 PM
Oct 2012

As in the Lincoln-Douglass mode. But this requires some integrity on the part of the participants. Romney came out with the notion, "I can say anything!" And he knew Obama would have a hard time cleaning up the damage.

I hope the president has the time and energy to counteract this.

--imm

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
3. FALSE, rMoney will talk THROUGH the mod and Obama...that's what he does...bring out a
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:47 PM
Oct 2012

...monitor and let the lies attack rMoney and any talking through rMoneys words

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
4. Problem is, the fourth debate won't matter...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:30 PM
Oct 2012

Unless we're in a time of war, the average American won't care that much about foreign affairs as compared to the economy. Plus, Romney will keep up a barrage of lies about Libya and "weak on defense" to confuse the issue.

Also, the VP debate can be ignored, because that's what virtually all voters will do with it. Unless either candidate makes a gaffe big enough to get replayed on the national news, it will be down the memory hole within hours.

That leaves the town hall on the 16th. Obama better nail that one.



 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
6. He can link foreign affairs to domestic issues
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012

Many of these things are connected.

This is a common tactic.

"To be strong in the world we must be strong at home and that means ..."

"Our role in the world requires us to bear a certain cost of a large military, and this means we must be very smart about how we spend ALL of our money ..."

Etc.

If people perceive it is still a horse race, they will tun in.

Obama has Romney exactly where he needs to be. Obama gave Romney exactly zero useful soubd bites Romney could quote out of context, and at the same time Romney was very clear that he is killing medicare for those under 56, that he has his head up his ass regarding his tax plan, and the only cut he would specifically identify was Big Bird. Romney did not move the needle very much yesterday, and any progress he made came at the expense of him now joining Ryan as being exposed as world class liars.

Given all the race-baiting that Romney/Sununu/Hannity have been doing, Obama could not take any chance of being the "uppity n-word". What he did instead is set the table for Joe to come hard next week.

So everybody, get a fresh box of Depends and just chill for a few days. This is all on target.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The next three debates ha...