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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:16 AM Oct 2012

Ct. Requires Disabled Rape Victim To Prove She Resisted... (‘Biting, Kicking, Scratching’)

Court Requires Disabled Rape Victim To Prove She Resisted, Calls For Evidence Of ‘Biting, Kicking, Scratching’

By Zack Beauchamp on Oct 3, 2012

In a 4-3 ruling Tuesday afternoon, the Connecticut State Supreme Court overturned the sexual assault conviction of a man who had sex with a woman who “has severe cerebral palsy, has the intellectual functional equivalent of a 3-year-old and cannot verbally communicate.” The Court held that, because Connecticut statutes define physical incapacity for the purpose of sexual assault as “unconscious or for any other reason. . . physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an act,” the defendant could not be convicted if there was any chance that the victim could have communicated her lack of consent. Since the victim in this case was capable of “biting, kicking, scratching, screeching, groaning or gesturing,” the Court ruled that that victim could have communicated lack of consent despite her serious mental deficiencies:

When we consider this evidence in the light most favorable to sustaining the verdict, and in a manner that is consistent with the state’s theory of guilt at trial, we, like the Appellate Court, ‘are not persuaded that the state produced any credible evidence that the [victim] was either unconscious or so uncommunicative that she was physically incapable of manifesting to the defendant her lack of consent to sexual intercourse at the time of the alleged sexual assault.’

According to the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN), lack of physical resistance is not evidence of consent, as “many victims make the good judgment that physical resistance would cause the attacker to become more violent.” RAINN also notes that lack of consent is implicit “if you were under the statutory age of consent, or if you had a mental defect” as the victim did in this case.


That's the 3-paragraph limit. I'm disenheartened that a court would do this. If anyone knows or has family members in this condition, resistance is not what is going to happen. It makes me too sick to say anymore, but you guys judge. More at link:


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/03/947981/court-requires-disabled-rape-victim-to-prove-she-fought-back-calls-for-evidence-of-biting-kicking-scratching/


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Ct. Requires Disabled Rape Victim To Prove She Resisted... (‘Biting, Kicking, Scratching’) (Original Post) freshwest Oct 2012 OP
There are no words. Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #1
Thank you. freshwest Oct 2012 #2
This is so sickening Oilwellian Oct 2012 #3
So wrong! Nt abelenkpe Oct 2012 #4
Connecticut? Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #5
absolutely appalling fizzgig Oct 2012 #6
Fizzgig! aquart Oct 2012 #26
The law needs to change. boppers Oct 2012 #7
No fucking kidding. This decision has established a legal precedent... TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #13
"She was kicking and biting because she liked it!" boppers Oct 2012 #19
I hope not, but legally I think you have a good point. freshwest Oct 2012 #21
You have got to be fucking kidding. /nt TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #8
Fucking barbaric jsr Oct 2012 #9
what in the HELL is the matter with those people?? niyad Oct 2012 #10
WTF? NutmegYankee Oct 2012 #11
My thoughts too...I thought CT was a rather "evolved" state...Guess not. whathehell Oct 2012 #32
The courts are infested undergroundpanther Oct 2012 #12
I cannot see any knowledge or empathy in this case. It was ignorant or callous, as you say. freshwest Oct 2012 #18
They used to kill black men for rape. boppers Oct 2012 #20
I agree undergroundpanther Oct 2012 #25
Obviously those idiots subscribe to the Todd Akin definition of "legitimate rape." nt tblue37 Oct 2012 #14
What the fuck??? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #15
Disabled folks have feelings and so do their families. I have a hard time talking on this. freshwest Oct 2012 #16
I guess some laws ARE based on the bible. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #17
They like to see bruises even better Generic Other Oct 2012 #22
What are the political leanings of this SC? Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #23
we are in a sick world today, and when told to "lighten up""quit being so angry" a huge seabeyond Oct 2012 #24
I hate the lighten up bullshit too. undergroundpanther Oct 2012 #30
This is SICK angrychair Oct 2012 #27
If this the new normal for America mick063 Oct 2012 #28
Thank you, mick. freshwest Oct 2012 #34
Stupid judges Kalidurga Oct 2012 #29
What an outrage...unbelievable. whathehell Oct 2012 #31
What the fuck? Is every facet of our system broken except Medicare and Social Security? nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #33
Does anyone know the gender make up of the court? tsuki Oct 2012 #35
Warped. Sick. Disgusting. Solly Mack Oct 2012 #36
 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
13. No fucking kidding. This decision has established a legal precedent...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:12 AM
Oct 2012

...which to all intents and purposes, legalises the rape of the physically and mentally dissabled.

Next test case just needs argue that EVERY SINGLE ONE of those suggested indicators of non-consent is also an involuntary muscular action of those with cerebral palsy, and thus you were unable to determine whether or not your victim was objecting and it's open season.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
19. "She was kicking and biting because she liked it!"
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:42 AM
Oct 2012

"it's how she emotes!"

Sickening.

The idea that *anything less* than conscious consent is the problem...

If they can't say "yes", the answer is "no", and it's rape.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. I hope not, but legally I think you have a good point.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:45 AM
Oct 2012

There have been some terrible decisions affecting disabled, especially severely disabled people in the last decade or so. Our conscience is being shredded.

undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
12. The courts are infested
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:11 AM
Oct 2012

with sociopaths,too many assholes,misogynists too many cruel people,too much right wing influenced thoughts to get empathy..and true justice.

The courts fail the victim far too much to hold credibility in my eyes.

If sociopaths write the laws it will favor the "poor criminal".I say,rapists should get the death penalty because,simply ,because there would be 1 less rapist in this world. 1 less rapist to ruin other's lives.
Sad part is the courts are so insensitive callous and bigoted the victims would be blamed(like this case) and a lot of innocents killed.I don't trust the courts to have enough character,ethics and wisdom to make decisions of guilt or innocence anymore. It's so sick it's like they favor the monsters in the world so they blame victims and excuse perpetrators..

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. I cannot see any knowledge or empathy in this case. It was ignorant or callous, as you say.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:42 AM
Oct 2012

There have been very disturbing cases out of CT and other courts in the last few years.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
20. They used to kill black men for rape.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:45 AM
Oct 2012

They still do.

The monsters aren't just the criminals, it's also those who use the law to further their agenda.

undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
25. I agree
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:04 AM
Oct 2012

And if you noticed I said the courts are infested with people that are sociopaths.
If any of the black men you refer to WERE actually guilty of rape fine glad they are outta here. But.. (pay attention here)I think most of them weren't truly guilty because of the RACIST misogynist ,monsters in the court system,that still infest the court system as evidenced by the OP..wanted them to be put away or murdered by the state.

Justice needs to be done rape has to be stopped,sociopaths need to be stopped,but that can't happen in a just way until all the racists, sociopaths and rape sympathizers are removed from positions in the court system.

until people admit rape is chosen act,and skin color is not chosen,and learn to recognize a racist judge or a sociopath judge justice will be screwed up and victims and the innocent will be unjustly harmed.

I wish we had cherokee justice for rapists.A missing ear would mean a person raped and no woman or man would be alone around a rapist and they'd know whom not to trust..But that requires a smaller number of people living together as in a tribe where all members know each other. The counties and states are too big to stop rape without convicting innocents.That is another aspect of the problem

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
17. I guess some laws ARE based on the bible.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:35 AM
Oct 2012

If she doesn't fight or cry out, it's not rape; it's marriage!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
23. What are the political leanings of this SC?
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:54 AM
Oct 2012

I can't even begin to imagine this could happen in our state supreme courts. How much intelligence/compassion does it take to be a supreme court member? We know the capabilities (or lack of) for our Federal Supreme Court, but I would think the states would have more sense than to come up with a ruling like this. It reeks Republican attitudes/beliefs.

undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
30. I hate the lighten up bullshit too.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:31 AM
Oct 2012

And out of the chaos, a voice spoke:

"Smile and be happy, for it can always be worse".

And I smiled, and I was happy, and it did get worse.

And worse,and worse,and worse....

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
27. This is SICK
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:15 AM
Oct 2012

I find it hard to even wrap my mind around. Very disappointed in CT.
their SC are a bunch of sick assholes.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
28. If this the new normal for America
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:22 AM
Oct 2012

You will find an ex patriot in me.

If this is the new norm, the country I proudly served in the military no longer exists.

We have been overcome by religious zealots that think this poor disabled women has less freedom than an undeveloped embryo.

The religious charlatans will eventually de-evolve our culture into that of burning witches and stoning the falsely accused. This is an example of how close we are.

The Tali-ban has arrived.



Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. Stupid judges
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:26 AM
Oct 2012

I don't even want to know what they were thinking it's irrelevant, especially since the thinking is void of thought. I just want them to be defrocked or derobed or what ever it is you do when you take a judge off the bench. They probably have a history of horrible rulings behind them and if they are allowed to go on they will make more horrible rulings. They just let a predator out chances are he will rape again, this is on their heads.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
31. What an outrage...unbelievable.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:47 AM
Oct 2012

"According to the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN), lack of physical resistance is not evidence of consent, as “many victims make the good judgment that physical resistance would cause the attacker to become more violent.” RAINN also notes that lack of consent is implicit “if you were under the statutory age of consent, or if you had a mental defect” as the victim did in this case".

Exactly...Many victims do not even need to come to their own "good judgment" as the perpetrator will INFORM you of the damage he will inflict upon you should you resist. This is what happened to me decades ago...I was barely out of my teens, 3,000 miles from home in a strange house in a strange city. I DID resist the mofo by kicking him in the balls, whereupon he proceeded to threaten me with severe bodily harm if "you do that again". Being of sound, if distraught mind, I decided to continue to LIVE, but one couldn't exactly call that "consent" could one?

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