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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 06:54 AM Oct 2012

Sad Pictures Of Kids Locked Up In America

http://www.businessinsider.com/pictures-of-kids-behind-bars-in-america-2012-10?op=1

About 70,000 kids sit behind bars in the U.S. at any given time, according to the Campaign for Youth Justice.
And Richard Ross is telling their stories.
The photographer and University of California — Santa Barbara professor visited about 300 facilities across the country and spoke with more than 1,000 juvenile inmates about how they got to where they are.
"They're all teenagers and teenagers by definition make bad decisions," Ross told Business Insider.


"It was really important to go there and put together a collection of images," Ross said of his work. He hopes nonprofits and others will use his pictures to drive home the gravity of the situation.


Since truancy is one of the most common crimes, the schooling they receive while incarcerated might be the best education they've gotten thus far because they are literally "a captive audience," Ross said.


School districts are often hiring their own police officers now, which can create an industry that hurts at-risk kids the most, according to Ross.


To end, we'll leave you with the "wall of shame" at Miami-Dade Regional Juvenile Detention Center. It shows kids who were released and killed by gunshot wounds.
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Sad Pictures Of Kids Locked Up In America (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2012 OP
A national disgrace - the U.S. has lost its way in so many ways. polichick Oct 2012 #1
A powerful photo essay. Which put me in mind of this story: Loudly Oct 2012 #2
That is REALLY sick. Thanks, but damm, just when you think they can't go any lower - they do. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #6
Sad pictures indeed aikoaiko Oct 2012 #3
That second picture Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #4
Heartbreaking. We have become a punitive society in that many Whovian Oct 2012 #5
What percentage of these kids go on to enter the general prison population? Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #7
My students and I were talking about this just this week. knitter4democracy Oct 2012 #8
i think first -- we need to rethink our institutions. xchrom Oct 2012 #9
Fair point. knitter4democracy Oct 2012 #11
I work with these children maindawg Oct 2012 #10
I miss teaching in Alt. Ed. knitter4democracy Oct 2012 #12
and when 'the economy' is destroyed, so are families, communities, and security -- in so many HiPointDem Oct 2012 #18
incarceration is big business in the us of a. spanone Oct 2012 #13
It's the first step in the culling process of the ruling class. rug Oct 2012 #14
There are so many steps involved Hydra Oct 2012 #16
We humans need to learn more about restorative justice duhneece Oct 2012 #15
There are no words malaise Oct 2012 #17
Jesus Christ. Taking pictures of dead teenagers, writing "expired" on them, and than posthumously Puregonzo1188 Oct 2012 #19
Gawd awful! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #20

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
6. That is REALLY sick. Thanks, but damm, just when you think they can't go any lower - they do.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:10 AM
Oct 2012

Judges sending kids to "for profit prisons" grrrrrr.

CONFLICT OF INTEREST MUCH, Judge?

reposting you link:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/18/us-crime-kidsforcash-idUSTRE71H7QJ20110218

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
3. Sad pictures indeed
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:58 AM
Oct 2012

In the early 1990s I worked for a halfway house system in AZ for juvenile offenders and had the chance to learn about their lives. In the past 20 years I'm sure it's only gotten worse. Almost all the kids had been victims of violent crime (usually domestic) and/or psychological trauma. They started off life with warped realities.

While its true that many are incarcerated for trivial things like truancy it's because thats the "crime" that is easiest to Prosecute. Most of the kids I worked with who were hit with truancy were already neck deep in other more serious crime (usually involving gangs).

We spent a lot of time trying to develop empathy for the offenders victims. Sadly this article talks very little about their victims. Some kids are incarcerated for victimless crimes but others are there because they beat on or steal from on other kids, elderly or poor.

I was often assigned sex offenders. Some of them seemed to turn the corner with therapy. But for some I'm sure that incarceration and watching then like hawks for their two or three years in the system may have been the only thing that kept them from sexually molesting or assaulting younger children for that period of time.

It's also true that the jumbie system made them harder and more knowledgeable criminals.

Zero tolerance at schools who use police to enforce infractions is a bigger problem now. It's one of the reasons I pony up for a secular private school. The adminstrators are expected to show more discretion.
 

Kindly Refrain

(423 posts)
4. That second picture
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:06 AM
Oct 2012

Those are inhumane conditions. Look at that. No pillow, no blankets. And I'll bet they leave the lights on in the cell 24/7.

 

Whovian

(2,866 posts)
5. Heartbreaking. We have become a punitive society in that many
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:06 AM
Oct 2012

through feelings of lack of control or any real empowerment find glee in the punishment of others while at the same time finding glee in getting away with their own indiscretions whether they be doing 50 in a 45, claiming an untrue tax deduction or something far more serious.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
7. What percentage of these kids go on to enter the general prison population?
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:16 AM
Oct 2012

I bet it is high. These places do not seem to work for rehabilitation at all.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
8. My students and I were talking about this just this week.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:28 AM
Oct 2012

We're reading Lord of the Flies, and we got to talking about how the boys in that would be treated when they got back home and whether or not they should be tried as adults. Many of my students come from poverty and know or are related to people in prison, and they have some interesting ideas on how to treat juvenile offenders.

Personally, I think we should admit that the latest brain research is clear in that teen brains just aren't there yet when it comes to understanding the impact of decisions and treat them as such. We should have some other place, other way of dealing with them instead of putting them in the general prison population.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
9. i think first -- we need to rethink our institutions.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:34 AM
Oct 2012

our institutions are failing us at the point where they are coming in contact to serve.

you're right about the info -- but a broken institution is still going to have a hard time adjusting appropriately to even the best info.



knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
11. Fair point.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oct 2012

Our jail system is extremely broken. It incarcerates and tortures and fails to rehabilitate most. That's what has to get fixed first. Then, we have to fix our laws that are so messed up.

As for fixing schools, I have my own opinions on that.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
10. I work with these children
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

in an alternate school. They hired me because as I told them , I used to be one of these kids.
There are no 'bad kids'. none. these kids are just angry and confused. They know nothing about life. They come from group homes, they come from abject poverty. They have been abused. Most are dealing with some kind of disability or otherwise a handicap. The main reason most are there, is fighting. But truancy is a close second. Truancy because they just dont want to be there. They have grown accustomed to the despair of hopelessness they expect from life.
young people are resilient. They get used to confinement very quickly and appreciate the security it offers. The comradre the regimen. Children need security. They need sameness.They need roots. They need 18 years of every day to be the same as the day before. They havent figured out the world yet, and its a scarry place.
There is no blanket solution. But one way to help them is to stop lying to them. We lie to them all the time.
Holding them as prisoner is wrong. They do need to be held accountable , they want to be held accountable.

I think the teacher whom I work with are great people.They care about kids whom no one else care about. That, in the end is all they need. Some one to care.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
12. I miss teaching in Alt. Ed.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:19 AM
Oct 2012

The school I'm in has a high number of at-risk kids, so I still get to work with them, but there's something special about alternative high schools. I miss working with those kids--amazing, wonderful kids all of them.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
18. and when 'the economy' is destroyed, so are families, communities, and security -- in so many
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 01:16 PM
Oct 2012

ways.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
14. It's the first step in the culling process of the ruling class.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oct 2012

A bookend to this would be county nursing homes.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
16. There are so many steps involved
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 01:12 PM
Oct 2012

Everything from pricing people out of existence to selective enforcement to toxic food and air.

Too many "useless eaters" in the pool. I hope they enjoy their solitary existence with their diamonds and their servants.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
15. We humans need to learn more about restorative justice
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:40 AM
Oct 2012

And grow up away from punitive' justice'. This is so sad.

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
19. Jesus Christ. Taking pictures of dead teenagers, writing "expired" on them, and than posthumously
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 01:19 PM
Oct 2012

shaming them is pretty damn disgusting.

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