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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 06:58 PM Oct 2012

CREEP - For political junkies and/or those of you old enough to remember

I came across an article the other day in The Utne Reader about campaign financing rules that changed in 1972, which apparently prompted a rush to stuff Nixon's coffers with unreported and unreportable cash before the rule came into affect.

Look, I know that 1972 was the dark ages. My parents' gift to me in September of that year was an Olivetti typewriter to take to college. Ahhh, memories.

Anyhow, dark ages. No internet. No 24x7 news cycle. No bloggers. FORTRAN computers. Remind me again? Did we really have electricty and the combustion engine?

In any case, the article got me to wondering. Who in Nixon's inner circle thought it would be a good idea to name the 1972 equivalent of a PAC the Committee to Re-elect the President, aka CREEP?

Just asking.

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CREEP - For political junkies and/or those of you old enough to remember (Original Post) matt819 Oct 2012 OP
Ah, yes.........CREEP. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #1
Oops. Already in the OP. n/t charlyvi Oct 2012 #4
They should have called it . . . abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #2
LOL!!! Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #3
Don't laugh laundry_queen Oct 2012 #13
Nixon ... CREEP ... Romney ... just plain creepy ... zbdent Oct 2012 #5
Weren't all the Watergate burglers members of CREEP? Glitterati Oct 2012 #6
Yes, I was such a Watergate junkie. murielm99 Oct 2012 #7
I think that is where the Republican hatred of PBS started csziggy Oct 2012 #9
I think we all were Glitterati Oct 2012 #11
Good question. I've wondered that myself many times Aldo Leopold Oct 2012 #8
It was an attempt H2O Man Oct 2012 #10
Daniel Schorr, CBS made history on live TV.. Stuart G Oct 2012 #12
All the President's Men is such a great movie to watch and rewatch because applegrove Oct 2012 #14
I saw it a few weeks ago on my On Demand. Jennicut Oct 2012 #15
A great, light-hearted follow-up movie to that is the underrated "Dick"(1999) eShirl Oct 2012 #18
ChucKKK KKKolson and his aKKKolyte... madinmaryland Oct 2012 #16
A lot of Nixon's goons have died off. Archae Oct 2012 #17
Some prominent members of CREEP... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #19

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,641 posts)
1. Ah, yes.........CREEP.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

I remember wondering where on earth that name came from too...

Somebody (or somebodies) just might not have been paying attention.



laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
13. Don't laugh
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:06 PM
Oct 2012

that particular acronym actually happened in Canada when the Reform party changed their name to the Canadian Conservative Reform Alliance Party, which journalists instantly started calling the CRAP party, LOL. It was promptly changed to Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance, but most of us have not forgotten that (un)fortunate acronym.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
6. Weren't all the Watergate burglers members of CREEP?
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:16 PM
Oct 2012

Oh boy, do I remember those days. When Watergate broke, it rolled and rolled and rolled into a HUGE story. A new, breaking news event practically every day.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
7. Yes, I was such a Watergate junkie.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

I went to work all day, and watched the hearings on replay on PBS until I could not stay awake any more. I think everyone at my workplace was doing that. We rolled a TV in the day Nixon resigned. I own just about every book written on Watergate.

I worked with more repubbles than Democrats. But they were honest and fair people. Most of them knew it was time for him to resign. I believe we have fallen far since those days. We don't have a truly independent media any more. And I don't think the republicans have many people with integrity. Those types lose their offices fairly quickly.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. I think that is where the Republican hatred of PBS started
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:51 PM
Oct 2012

The hard core Republicans HATED that people got to see all the sordid details of the Watergate hearings. Some probably felt that Nixon never would have been forced to resign if the public had not gotten to see so much of what had gone on.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
11. I think we all were
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

It dominated the news every day. You couldn't avoid it if you wanted to.

But, yes, the independent news is gone forever, I fear. Such a horrible loss, and what I feel is responsible for the horrible ideological purity tests going on in both parties now. You just never get enough information to make a logical, informed decision.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
10. It was an attempt
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:54 PM
Oct 2012

at tongue-in-cheek humor, made by the members of CREEP's "plumbers unit." Because it was referenced in documents discovered by the Senate Select Committee, "CREEP" became the public name for the outfit.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
12. Daniel Schorr, CBS made history on live TV..
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

Nixon had an enemies list..lots of people who the adminstration of tricky dick wanted to get...

ABC's Sam Donaldson...was reading names off the list, (I was channel switching with an old black and white tv) and Donaldson read Daniel Schorr's name as an.."enemy"..to be dealt with....at that moment........ABC was a little ahead of CBS...

...........so I switched the channel and there was Daniel Schorr...(he was the reportor on at the time) ..........just getting the list and the story.......so he started to read the story and the list........on live TV..and........... he came across his own name.read it, looked up for a second..stopped..looked into the camera...and continued reading ..........It was a moment frozen in time for me.. more than 40 years ago..I remember that...

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
14. All the President's Men is such a great movie to watch and rewatch because
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

it is so complicated that it seems completely novel to me once every five years. I never can remember the details.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
15. I saw it a few weeks ago on my On Demand.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

Love using my Xfinity to watch older movies.
I was born in '75 so this was all new to me. I knew Nixon resigned and that he did bad things but I had no details. The whole thing was fascinating. Too bad Bob Woodward became such a poor book writer later on in life.

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
18. A great, light-hearted follow-up movie to that is the underrated "Dick"(1999)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:38 PM
Oct 2012

"...a parody retelling the events of the Watergate scandal which ended the presidency of Richard ("Tricky Dick&quot Nixon and features several cast members from Saturday Night Live and The Kids in the Hall."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_%28film%29

Archae

(46,337 posts)
17. A lot of Nixon's goons have died off.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:50 PM
Oct 2012

Remember Haldemann and Ehrlichmann? Chuck Colson?

Two of his former goons still active are radio commentator G. Gordon Liddy, and Faux "news" head Roger Ailes.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
19. Some prominent members of CREEP...
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:30 PM
Oct 2012

Prominent members

John N. Mitchell, Director
Fred Malek, Deputy Director
Jeb Stuart Magruder, Manager
Francis L. Dale, Chairman
Maurice Stans, Finance Chairman
Herbert W. Kalmbach, Deputy Finance Chairman
Kenneth H. Dahlberg, Midwest Finance Chairman
Hugh W. Sloan, Jr., Treasurer
James W. McCord, Jr., Security Coordinator
G. Gordon Liddy, Finance Counsel; former aide to John Ehrlichman.
E. Howard Hunt, Consultant to the White House
Donald Segretti, attorney involved
Fred LaRue, Deputy Director; aide to John Mitchell
Charles Colson, Special Counsel to the President
DeVan L. Shumway, Spokesman
Roger Stone, political operative

On his death bed, E. Howard Hunt admitted to being involved in the JFK assassination:

The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt

QUOTE:

"But now, in August 2003, propped up in his sickbed, paper on his lap, pen in hand and son sitting next to him, he began to write down the names of men who had indeed participated in a plot to kill the president. He had lied during those two federal investigations. He knew something after all. He told St. John about his own involvement, too. It was explosive stuff, with the potential to reconfigure the JFK-assassination-theory landscape. And then he got better and went on to live for four more years."

Oh, by the way, during his CIA days he would have known George H. W. "Poppy" Bush rather well. Of all the major figures interviewed as to where he was the day JFK was killed, Poppy's the only one who can't seem to recall.

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