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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:06 PM Oct 2012

12 polls, national and state, released today. Obama led in 9 , Romney led in 1, and 2 were tied

General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Pew Research

Obama 45, Romney 49

Romney +4



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Politico/GWU/Battleground

Obama 49, Romney 48

Obama +1



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking*

Obama 47, Romney 47

Tie



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking*

Obama 50, Romney 45

Obama +5



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 48, Romney 48

Tie



Michigan: Romney vs. Obama

EPIC-MRA

Obama 48, Romney 45

Obama +3



Michigan: Romney vs. Obama

Baydoun/Foster (D)

Obama 49, Romney 46

Obama +3



Pennsylvania: Romney vs. Obama

Susquehanna

Obama 47, Romney 45

Obama +2



Colorado: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Reports

Obama 49, Romney 48

Obama +1



Virginia: Romney vs. Obama

PPP (D)

Obama 50, Romney 47

Obama +3



Iowa: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Reports

Obama 49, Romney 47

Obama +2



Massachusetts: Romney vs. Obama

Western NE University

Obama 63, Romney 33

Obama +30


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


Pew freak out. Nate Silver says, "Get a grip."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021496439

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12 polls, national and state, released today. Obama led in 9 , Romney led in 1, and 2 were tied (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2012 OP
? DemzRock Oct 2012 #1
See the chart ProSense Oct 2012 #3
But they are not switching to LVs until tomorrow. At least that is how I read it. Tx4obama Oct 2012 #6
That wasn't the point. The chart at the link is today's. ProSense Oct 2012 #8
Ah okay. I just read the text. Tx4obama Oct 2012 #12
Has something to do with one is over seven days, the other over three days. Something like that n/t Tx4obama Oct 2012 #4
Is there any way to make this OP the first post DonViejo Oct 2012 #2
Anytime a person posts a reply it bumps the OP up the list. Tx4obama Oct 2012 #7
and the 'media' proclaims him the winner....bwahahahaahaa spanone Oct 2012 #5
Interesting that Rasmussen has them tied raven42 Oct 2012 #9
Most curious about Rasmussen tomorrow. Jennicut Oct 2012 #10
I don't know about the accuracy jsmirman Oct 2012 #11
The PA poll ProSense Oct 2012 #13
Susquehanna had it plus 2 in September also. Jennicut Oct 2012 #14
EPIC/MRA showed Obama by 10 previously, but ProSense Oct 2012 #15
Thank you Prosense and Jennicut for the info on that poll jsmirman Oct 2012 #16
PBS Newshour Oct 7: all they talked about was Pew and the dead-even Gallup Poll. Norman Goldman too progree Oct 2012 #17
This morning: NBC News cited Pew: Romney+4 & Gallup: Obama+5. & Stephanie Miller: "an obvious tight progree Oct 2012 #18
what you neglect to mention is that rMoney made gains in cali Oct 2012 #19
Really? ProSense Oct 2012 #20

DemzRock

(1,016 posts)
1. ?
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:08 PM
Oct 2012

General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking*

Obama 47, Romney 47

Tie



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking*

Obama 50, Romney 45

Obama +5

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
6. But they are not switching to LVs until tomorrow. At least that is how I read it.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

The 'two' Gallup polls came out today.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. That wasn't the point. The chart at the link is today's.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:17 PM
Oct 2012

The HuffPo piece discusses the two poll releases.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
4. Has something to do with one is over seven days, the other over three days. Something like that n/t
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:11 PM
Oct 2012

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. Is there any way to make this OP the first post
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:10 PM
Oct 2012

on the list? Make sure that every last DU member and lurker sees it? The hysteria and Henny Penny impressions around here are driving me loco

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. Anytime a person posts a reply it bumps the OP up the list.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:16 PM
Oct 2012

If you are talking about 'pinning' an OP to the top of the list so that it doesn't move, then the answer is 'no'.

Only Skinner and the other admins can 'pin' threads in 'forums'.



Edited to add...

Also, the threads that get the most RECs end up on the 'Greatest' page.

raven42

(88 posts)
9. Interesting that Rasmussen has them tied
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:17 PM
Oct 2012

in the national poll, when he had Romney up by two or three points over the weekend. That must mean that in his most recent samples President Obama had a better polling day(s). If a republican-leaning pollster has it tied again--after the "big" Romney bounce from the debate--then things can't be that bad.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
10. Most curious about Rasmussen tomorrow.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:19 PM
Oct 2012

Obama's approval went up in their poll today at 51%. Have no idea what that means. Maybe he had a good polling day on Sunday? It showed up in Gallup today too. Pew had very little polling done Sunday with just over 100 people polled the other day. Their final poll had over 1,000 people in their sample. I take Rasmussen and Gallup more seriously then Pew because they weighted Sunday more evenly with their other tracking days, although Gallup will be iffy tomorrow with LV polling out. Gallup needs to realize they were very confusing today and this will confuse people even more tomorrow as surely Obama will drop a lot from 5 points with an LV model.

The swing state polls are pretty consistent, if tight.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
11. I don't know about the accuracy
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

and I'm feeling like as long as Biden does his job, things are headed in our favor, but if that PA poll is accurate, it is horrifying.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. The PA poll
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:28 PM
Oct 2012

is post debate and no change. It's a right leaning poll.

Following is a brief overview of our latest statewide poll in the Keystone State conducted October 4th through October 6th with 725 likely voters. The poll was taken over the course of three days immediately following the first televised presidential debate held October 3rd. Top line results are included following this overview.

General Overview

Barack Obama leads Mitt Romney in the Keystone State by 2 points (47%-45%), with 3% voting for Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson. This close margin means the race continues to be a virtual dead heat within the survey’s +/-3.7% margin of error, particularly when compared with our last two surveys (Obama +2, on behalf of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review released 9/23, and Obama +1, on behalf of the Republican State Committee, released 9/18). Four percent of voters say they are still undecided in the current poll. When the undecided voters leaning towards a candidate are factored in (breaking 3:1 for Romney), the race narrows to a 1-point Obama lead (47-46). Plus, among those who say they have an “excellent” chance of voting (639 respondents out of 725 likely voters), Romney leads 47-46. These “excellent” voters combined with 86 respondents who say they have a “good” chance of voting make up the 725 likely voters sampled, while voters who said their chances of voting were “fair” or “poor” were disqualified from participation in the interview.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Susquehanna_PA_1008.pdf



Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
14. Susquehanna had it plus 2 in September also.
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:28 PM
Oct 2012

They were an outlier in the PA polls. No other poll had it that close in Sept. Obama's average lead there is over 7 points on poll tracker and other websites.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
15. EPIC/MRA showed Obama by 10 previously, but
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

that was attributed to Mitt's disastrous 47 percent comment:

Poll: Obama Leads Romney By 10 Points In Michigan

DETROIT (WWJ) As President Barack Obama and Republican contender Mitt Romney prepare to battle it out in the debate ring, the most recent poll shows Obama is pulling no punches in his lead over Romney in Michigan.

The newest EPIC/MRA poll shows Obama with a 47 to 37 percent margin over Romney.

The GOP candidate has lost five percentage points in the state since the previous poll, and pollster Bernie Porn thinks he drop can directly be attributed to Romney’s remark about the ”47 percent” of Americans who would rather rely on government handouts than take care of themselves.

“I think in terms of the impact of that, it was very profound, and I think most people may well consider it a revealing comment more than thinking that it was an invasion of his privacy in comments before fundraisers,” Porn said.

- more -

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/10/01/obama-leads-romney-by-10-points-in-michigan/


The EPIC/MRA poll prior to that (at the end of August) had Obama up by 3 points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/mi/michigan_romney_vs_obama-1811.html



progree

(10,908 posts)
17. PBS Newshour Oct 7: all they talked about was Pew and the dead-even Gallup Poll. Norman Goldman too
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 01:47 AM
Oct 2012

On the PBS Newshour, during the "rest of the news" segment that follows the lead story, they only talked about how the Pew poll has Romney 4 points ahead (vs. 8 points down before the debate) and how the Gallup Poll shows them even (vs. 5 points ahead for Obama before).

Then they went into details about the Pew poll how it has changed relative perceptions of a stronger leader from Obama way ahead on that score pre-debate to about even or something -- I forget the spread on the many perception / character questions pollsters asked about. But it was a long and sad thing to sit through.

Norman Goldman (progressive radio talk host) also was reporting the same thing, and complaining that so many low-information voters fell for Romney's lies and think bullying makes him look strong.

I'm just reporting what I've heard on the media this evening for informational purposes.

progree

(10,908 posts)
18. This morning: NBC News cited Pew: Romney+4 & Gallup: Obama+5. & Stephanie Miller: "an obvious tight
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:39 AM
Oct 2012

This morning: NBC News cited Pew poll: Romney+4 & Gallup: Obama+5 and then said "go figure".

Stephanie Miller (progressive talk show host) said "an obvious tightening of the race" (didn't cite any specific polls in the few-minutes segment that I listened to)

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. Really?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:53 AM
Oct 2012

Which ones?

Mitt's gain in the EPIC/MRA is basically erasing the effects of the 47 percent comment: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1497931

The PA poll is no change: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1497876

Obama is up 5 in Gallup and his approval is up.

PPP shows Obama down 2, but still leading by 3 points.

The battleground poll is noise, a point in a poll that has shown Romney ahead, similar to Rasmussen, which now has the race tied.

No one is disputing that there was a bounce, but the freak out is uneccessary. The debate was not a significant game changer.

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