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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts) Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:42 PM Oct 2012

MSNBC: friend or foe

I love Rachel, and sometimes, I like Ed and Lawrence. I willalso admit I hate Chris Matthews for being a loudmouth, even when he is on our side.

However,I think we need to look at something. Yes, Obama did not bring an "A" game, and yes,we all knew that the Media would praise Mitt even if he tied a dog to the roof of the arena. Citizens United has proven that the media will WHORE themselves for those Billion$ that Pacs will throw around.

I think that while we can LIKE MSNBC,we have to realize that they are controlled by GE, the enemy. After all, for Andrea Mitchell to call out the president for QUOTING HER shows the levels to which Mrs. Greenspan does NOT want to piss off her masters. Yes,yes, copyright, did Miss Mitchell have to personally take the nasty tone, and speak to Obama as if he was some bad boy that took the cookies? Note that not even Rachel deviated fromthe nasty tone and ringing the DOOOOM Bell.

I am not saying there is a conspiracy...but I am sayign that the staff of MSNBC may very well be unable to break away froman elitist perspective, which is another way of saying even though they are left leaning, they still have huge egos which can make it hard for them to take their heads out of their arse.

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MSNBC: friend or foe (Original Post) DonCoquixote Oct 2012 OP

On the bright side today Tamron Hall flamingdem Oct 2012 #1

romney kicked butt, perception wise - not Msnbc's fault. on to the next one nt msongs Oct 2012 #2

Msnbc is our friend. mitchell just does not want to be in an ad. Matthews is a pain I agree. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #3

Neither DJ13 Oct 2012 #4

Is it to keep people nervous so they'll get out to vote? meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #5

MSNBC is just targeting a niche LTR Oct 2012 #6

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)

1. On the bright side today Tamron Hall

Reply to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:45 PM

Oct 2012

responded quickly to people twittering her that she should discuss the Gallop poll with Obama 5% ahead vs. the one she had up with 47% vs 47%

Her staff is at fault there, but maybe this shows it's not so monolithic

msongs

(67,406 posts)

2. romney kicked butt, perception wise - not Msnbc's fault. on to the next one nt

Reply to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:45 PM

Oct 2012

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

3. Msnbc is our friend. mitchell just does not want to be in an ad. Matthews is a pain I agree.

Reply to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:46 PM

Oct 2012

Rachel and ed make the world go round.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)

4. Neither

Reply to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:55 PM

Oct 2012

They have a self interest that may or may not coincide with the goals of the Democratic party.

For instance, the way they reported a few polls today shows their self interest in having a close race stands above either being accurate or in supporting our party.

Sure theres the usually left leaning hosts on in the evening, but MSNBC has also shown a willingness to either reprimand or outright fire any host who actually shows some personal support for the causes or politicians who are on the left, like Ed, Cenk, and Olbermann.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)

5. Is it to keep people nervous so they'll get out to vote?

Reply to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:56 PM

Oct 2012

Last go around, Randi Rhodes used to be on my local AM progressive radio station in the afternoons. I would listen when I was out picking up kids. She did plenty of alarmist talk - the race is close, Obama could lose etc etc.

After he won, she flat out admitted on her show that she was certain he was going to win, but by saying it was a done deal, that might make people feel less urgency and importance to vote. She didn't want to talk in anyway to make voters think Obama was going to win by a landslide so maybe it wasn't that big of a deal to skip voting.

I don't know if our MSNBC talking heads are that conscientious of if they are playing the same game as the rest of the media I'm hoping it's the former. Otherwise the lefties don't have any tv stations other than Current and I don't think many markets get that.

LTR

(13,227 posts)

6. MSNBC is just targeting a niche

Reply to DonCoquixote (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:10 AM

Oct 2012

They tried the wannabe Fox News approach years ago and failed miserably.

Going liberal in prime time was done when Olbermann was their top host. They decided to aim for the niche exactly opposite of Fox, and seem to have done well with it. Good for them, but the powers-that-be at the network aren't true believers. It's just a niche they're aiming for.

When all is said and done, they are still more interested in sensationalism and shock than in reporting news. Notice how news operations prefer to air "when pundits attack" rather than in-field reports and detailed journalism, ala BBC and others? It's cheaper that way. But it also makes cable news almost unwatchable.

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