and that is what matters. The push for Romney is coming from poor whites in red states. Their approval of him jumped in those states but it does not matter. They are red states that will never go blue. The irony is that they are the states filled to the brim with the 47% Romney despises.

Cant tell me that there is no racism involved..with lopsided figures like these.and fyi..I am white and I hear things that people would NEVER say in front of blacks..

Totally obvious.

- Most of DU

See my reply in the thread.

People are saying that the snap polls are not a true indication of the race.

The freak out that all is lost is what's ridiculous.

Most of these polls are showing just what Kos said, likely no response from some Democrats and increased Republican enthusiasm.

an indication of a certain psychology. You're actually a prime example of it.

nonsense, no matter how many polls you call outliers, it won't change stubborn facts. This is a very close election. It has become closer since the debate. Spin away, dear.

Similar to Pew (88%). Seems a fair number of black voters expressed their displeasure with the President's debate performance in the aftermath by rejecting him on the phone. Those numbers won't hold.

I guess it would make sense if such polls were reported as reactions to the big event, but they're not. They're treated as things that completely shake up the entire race, but it would seem that historically we know that isn't true. It flies in the face of history to suggest that reactions to big events are the new normal. Instead, they're just reactions to big events.

I don't know. It just seems to give a completely false perception of the state of the race, any race, to do a poll immediately in the aftermath of any big event, be it a convention, a debate, a running mate choice, etc. To me, it seems it would be much more accurate to always wait a few days to begin polling to get an accurate state of the race instead of a snap reaction.

But then again, I don't think pollsters or the media are looking for an accurate picture of the race. They do snap polls to create controversy and to stir things up.

Which they clearly do quite well.

And why isn't this PPP poll reflected in the RCP average?

http://www.dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2012/10/4

Independent/Other 299
Liberal 260
Moderate 507
Conservative 533

Northeast 338
Midwest 299
South 416
West 247

Major gaffe coming up...

That's probably a good assessment of where we're at right now: a statistical tie, with maybe Obama ahead by one-two points. Pew and PPP should both be taken with a grain of salt considering most of the interviews were done right after the debate. PPP's interviews conducted on Saturday and Sunday indicate Romney up by only 0.5%. And they noted on Twitter that the bump has really subsided over the past few days. It's way too soon to panic. Rather, we're back to where we were pre-conventions, which is a very close race with the Electoral College on our side. We're not exactly winning, but we're certainly not losing either.