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Scott Brown Retakes Lead from Elizabeth Warren in New Poll (Original Post) WilliamPitt Oct 2012 OP
A poll yesterday showed Warren up 5 points. ProSense Oct 2012 #1
after two shitty performances and Obama being up by double digits? Botany Oct 2012 #2
Yeah. It reeks to high heaven. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #3
I saw a national poll this morning that showed Romney tied w/ Obama with ..... Botany Oct 2012 #4
Was that the infamous Pew poll? GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #7
Pure BS. They are setting up for the "steal." kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #13
A Few Things To Keep In Mind DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #34
That's the "Obama Effect", when your Presidential candidate will not fight for the party's values, GumboYaYa Oct 2012 #5
Yeah instead of joking about his performance bigdarryl Oct 2012 #6
Dammit. cilla4progress Oct 2012 #29
what a pantload spanone Oct 2012 #11
You really are alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #12
Sorry that I am pissed off very badly that he stood on stage and let Romney walk all over him when GumboYaYa Oct 2012 #26
Sick alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #28
Does posting a comment like this make you feel better about yourself? Just curious. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #15
How do we explain that Chris Murphy took a lead against McMahon today? Jennicut Oct 2012 #16
well, yeah but... WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #17
Bullshit Champion Jack Oct 2012 #30
OK, something is going on here! Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #8
The most reliable, unbiased poll has Cyrano Oct 2012 #9
The WBUR has been reliable for years. WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #10
nothing freeperish to notice things that do not seem logical Botany Oct 2012 #20
But everything was logical WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #24
Yes those polls seemed logical because of the demographics of various voting blocks Botany Oct 2012 #27
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #14
Enjoy your stay ..... it will not be long Botany Oct 2012 #18
Oh sorry, I forgot... anyone who is not 100% sure every negative poll is rigged is a troll WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #21
"Obama looks like a guy who doesn't want to be president any more." Botany Oct 2012 #22
He looks tired, stressed, worn out. WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #23
enjoy your stay ..... it will not be long Botany Oct 2012 #25
OMG. Please stop this nonsense. Many posters are doing this. Jennicut Oct 2012 #19
Wouldn't It Make More Sense To Look At The Average Of Polls Then To Cherry Pick A Good Or Bad One? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #31
Cherry-pick? WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #33
Maybe There Has Been An Eight Point Swing In Three Days DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #35
I could give a damn about the polls newspeak Oct 2012 #32

Botany

(70,515 posts)
2. after two shitty performances and Obama being up by double digits?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:45 AM
Oct 2012

something is really funny w/ all these polls.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
3. Yeah. It reeks to high heaven.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:47 AM
Oct 2012

No doubt they bought into the "skewed polls" meme, and are trying to skew them in the other direction.

Botany

(70,515 posts)
4. I saw a national poll this morning that showed Romney tied w/ Obama with .....
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:49 AM
Oct 2012

..... women voters.

please tell what has Mitt done to get a 20 point swing among women in the past two
weeks?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
7. Was that the infamous Pew poll?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:59 AM
Oct 2012

That one had not only a huge jump among women, but also a 7 point jump with African Americans. Pure bullshit.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
13. Pure BS. They are setting up for the "steal."
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:26 AM
Oct 2012

I don't know anything that can be done about it except and act of God than only a few believe in.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
34. A Few Things To Keep In Mind
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012

Scott Brown will run well ahead of RobMe in Massachusetts and that poll has Obama with a sixteen point lead which seems huge but is not as huge as the lead he has in other Massachusetts polls.

I will wait to see other polls.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
5. That's the "Obama Effect", when your Presidential candidate will not fight for the party's values,
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:52 AM
Oct 2012

it hurts all of our candidates.

I hope Obama and Axelrod pull their collective heads out of their asses and get ready for the next debate.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
29. Dammit.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:04 AM
Oct 2012

They've been working their ASSES off in this campaign. Yes, I'm disappointed. But I REFUSE to sit here and armchair throw crap at our Pres and his team. Esp. the Pres.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
26. Sorry that I am pissed off very badly that he stood on stage and let Romney walk all over him when
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:50 AM
Oct 2012

he had every chance to stand up to the lies.

I am going to bash him every chance I get until he shows me that he will stand up there and fight for us. His performance was sad. Anyone watching politics for the past year or so could have knocked Romney down several pegs very easily, but Obama did nothing.

This goes to the way he governs. Obama sells us liberals out all the time. He runs to the center. He is scared to fight for our values. I hope this is a wake up call, that the people who donate time and money for him, matter in this election. Not just the so-called "independent, undecided voters".

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
16. How do we explain that Chris Murphy took a lead against McMahon today?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:30 AM
Oct 2012

Quinnipiac showed McMahon ahead a point and today Rasmussen has Murphy ahead by 5. Murphy went up in the Quinnipiac poll and a PPP poll two weeks ago, therefore there seems to be some movement toward Murphy.

Sometimes, polls show noise. Sometimes they show some real movement away from a candidate for whatever reason. I would wait to see another Mass Senate poll before making conclusions. Warren led in every other poll but this one.

 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
17. well, yeah but...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:30 AM
Oct 2012

As noted elsewhere, it's debate #1 that matters. The damage has been done at this point.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. OK, something is going on here!
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:10 AM
Oct 2012

We know they can't manipulate the vote if the polls are too far apart. So, they manipulate the polls. Done! Check mark!

Are they being overconfident and starting their move too soon? Are the poll changes a fluke? We know they've been working on this coup for a lonnnnnnng time, so I'm sure they have everything laid out nicely and on schedule. Is this part of the scheduled steps?

Obama/Romney at a tie doesn't bother me because of that stupid debate performance, but this Warren/Brown change and the Obama/Romney recovery on women's votes sent my stomach dropping to my ankles. We aren't that stupid, Rove... You may be able to manipulate males, but once you get us females mad...we "ain't" changing our minds. That was your first mistake.

What's gonna be your second? All eyes are upon you.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
9. The most reliable, unbiased poll has
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:13 AM
Oct 2012

consistently been the Quinnipiac poll. But I haven't seen one this week.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
10. The WBUR has been reliable for years.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oct 2012

I am really cracking up over the knee-jerk reaction around here: poll has bad news = biased poll. Very Freeperish of us.

Not you, Cyrano. But do look up above your post.

Botany

(70,515 posts)
20. nothing freeperish to notice things that do not seem logical
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

a 20 point pick up by Romney among women
a 7 point pick up by Romney among African Americans

Botany

(70,515 posts)
27. Yes those polls seemed logical because of the demographics of various voting blocks
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:51 AM
Oct 2012

...... and what the republicans/romney have been saying all along.

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
21. Oh sorry, I forgot... anyone who is not 100% sure every negative poll is rigged is a troll
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:36 AM
Oct 2012

...especially those with low post counts. You're right, Obama did a bang-up job in the debate. Political Judo, keeping the powder dry. Yup. Lots of dry powder. Elizabeth is really up 18 points. Pew research is run by Karl Rove. Undecideds always break for the incumbent. Except for senate races in Mass.

Did I miss any?

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
19. OMG. Please stop this nonsense. Many posters are doing this.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Kaine is ahead in VA, Nelson ahead in FL, Baldwin is ahead in Wisconsin still. Murphy just slipped ahead of McMahon on the RCP average, Brown is still ahead of Mendel. The debate did not effect them in any way. The last poll had Warren ahead of Brown. Stop melting down people. And look at the overall polling before making such dubious claims.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
31. Wouldn't It Make More Sense To Look At The Average Of Polls Then To Cherry Pick A Good Or Bad One?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012

I believe that poll has the pres with a sixteen point lead. Other polls showed him with a thirty point lead. I believe I will continue looking at the averages.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
35. Maybe There Has Been An Eight Point Swing In Three Days
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:23 AM
Oct 2012

I will await confirmation before I drink the hemlock.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
32. I could give a damn about the polls
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012

elizabeth warren KNOWS about the banks, knows what needs to be done to monitor and regulate them. For the people's interest, I really hope she wins.

too many americans have been swayed by corporate media, have become zombies to commercialization and blowhard commentators. What it boils down to is who will do the least amount of damage or actually help the majority of the american people in this economic environment? and for me and my family, it's not tough talking bullshite plutocrat mittens or his randian sidekick ryan.

they treat the election like some damn football game, it's too bad that some don't realize that their team may win, but YOU and your loved ones actually wind up losing!

the only polls I'm interested in is the exit polls and it seems some states want to do away with that poll.

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