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lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:10 AM Oct 2012

Abused? Need to get out of your cell phone contract to escape your abuser?

Sprint doesn't care.

http://www.change.org/petitions/sprint-improve-policies-to-keep-domestic-violence-victims-safe#share

I am going to try to post a thread a day for Domestic Violence Awareness Month.

If you are in a shared contract with your abuser, he can access your phone records, see who you've called, stalk you, and track you down--with or without a restraining order.

I call on good people everywhere to heap shame on Sprint until they change this policy.

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Abused? Need to get out of your cell phone contract to escape your abuser? (Original Post) lapislzi Oct 2012 OP
KICK. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #1
I hope Cenk or Rachel or Lawrence gives a couple minutes of time to this issue. diabeticman Oct 2012 #2
signed and K&R! n/t ceile Oct 2012 #3
if you are in a shared contrct wth your abuser, dump the phone. Why would robinlynne Oct 2012 #4
Because you have to pay a penalty for ending the contract. nt freedom fighter jh Oct 2012 #5
How about you turn off the phone, and simply sign up with another provider? SheilaT Oct 2012 #23
Because now she's paying for the basic phone and the contract, too. Zalatix Oct 2012 #36
Somehow that strikes me as better than SheilaT Oct 2012 #38
But not as good as Sprint getting a clue. Zalatix Oct 2012 #41
That's true, but meanwhile she SheilaT Oct 2012 #42
Yes, but isn't it a fucking shame that when the shit hits the fan Zalatix Oct 2012 #43
Because they charge you out the wazoo to break the contract. lapislzi Oct 2012 #7
It said he could check on her calls etc - but I thought all that was password protected? sammytko Oct 2012 #16
Throw the phone in the Charles River and buy a Tracfone. MADem Oct 2012 #21
Sprint is slimy. freedom fighter jh Oct 2012 #6
It's too complicated to explain to pretty ladies. lapislzi Oct 2012 #8
They are awful! CrispyQ Oct 2012 #31
Tell them to stuff the fee and then contest it with the credit agencies. Zalatix Oct 2012 #37
I was a sprint customer Old Codger Oct 2012 #9
Signed. K&R avebury Oct 2012 #10
You don't have to get a contract with any of the major providers - just pay full price for the phone sammytko Oct 2012 #26
I am way to cheap to pay a lot for a phone. A avebury Oct 2012 #30
Credo Mobile will buy you out of your existing contract up to $350: beac Oct 2012 #11
Yes, they did for me. freedom fighter jh Oct 2012 #13
Great links, thanks. n/t lapislzi Oct 2012 #14
I have credo too... happerbolic Oct 2012 #17
Most telecom networks were built with tax payer subsidies wickerwoman Oct 2012 #29
perfect resolution! robinlynne Oct 2012 #32
Cell Phone SamKnause Oct 2012 #12
K&R ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #15
Thank you for sharing that. lapislzi Oct 2012 #20
He's a good man ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #22
You picked a good one! catbyte Oct 2012 #28
K&R n/t DeSwiss Oct 2012 #18
And if the ex put the phone in your name you can't cancel it Generic Other Oct 2012 #19
If the ex 'put the phone in your name' then the contract is not valid. You have to sign for it to MADem Oct 2012 #24
I wasn't behind on the bill Generic Other Oct 2012 #33
See, I would have been a total shithead and said, well it ain't gettin' paid anymore MADem Oct 2012 #34
It's amazing how handy a man's voice can be on the phone. LeftyMom Oct 2012 #40
Looking at some of the comments here, I see SheilaT Oct 2012 #25
AMEN - and make sure you can always pay ALL the bills by yourself. sammytko Oct 2012 #27
This is customary in many other countries. MADem Oct 2012 #35
... Gold Metal Flake Oct 2012 #39

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
4. if you are in a shared contrct wth your abuser, dump the phone. Why would
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:57 AM
Oct 2012

anyone keep a phone shared with an abuser?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. How about you turn off the phone, and simply sign up with another provider?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:53 PM
Oct 2012

Get some kind of a basic phone and just buy the minutes as you need them.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
38. Somehow that strikes me as better than
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:44 AM
Oct 2012

continuing to use a shared phone if one of her concerns is that her abuser can access the records.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
43. Yes, but isn't it a fucking shame that when the shit hits the fan
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:36 AM
Oct 2012

it's the victim who has to shell out extra quid to protect herself?

Who the hell has her back?

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
7. Because they charge you out the wazoo to break the contract.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
Oct 2012

Then you have to re-up with someone else. Many women leaving abusive situations are in very poor financial shape. Oh, and when your abuser discovers you've left the contract, you've got a pissed off abuser, who's already pissed off because you left. The period immediately following a woman leaving the relationship is statistically the most dangerous.

Read the article. Sometimes the only option for women in this situation is a Go Phone.

If you really want to help, you can donate an old phone:
http://www.ncadv.org/takeaction/DonateaPhone.php

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Throw the phone in the Charles River and buy a Tracfone.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:45 PM
Oct 2012

It costs more per minute, but you can get Triple Unit phones that bring the cost way down.

Or just stop using the phone for awhile to call people--use the Tracfone for that, and only use it for INCOMING calls.

You'd think Sprint would allow the person to dump that contract if they fired up a new one. How much would the penalty be?

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
6. Sprint is slimy.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:24 AM
Oct 2012

Sprint lies about the contract when you sign up.

I had to break my Sprint contract and the penalty was more than it should have been according to the formula they gave me when I signed up. Wouldn't have been too bad because my new company, Credo, promised to refund the penalty. But Sprint refused to send the final bill. They just wanted me to pay it, kept insisting that the hard copy I was asking for was a "duplicate," told me that "maybe" they might be able to print it for me if I came to their store, and then they were too busy trying to slime new customers into signing up. Jerks.

Even if I didn't have to pay the penalty in the end, I still wanted to know why it was so high. Got some manager to explain to me the formula they use. I pointed out that that was not the same formula I had been told at sign-up. He said no, the real formula is too complicated to explain. I said, "So Sprint lies." "No," he said, "of course not. Sprint doesn't lie."

Jerks. I want nothing to do with them.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
31. They are awful!
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

When I signed up years ago, the dumbass gave me an out of state telephone number. WTF? Then, they couldn't just give me a new number, they had to cancel the one contract & set up another. I got a $350 bill for the canceled contract. It took a month to iron that mess out.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
9. I was a sprint customer
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:39 AM
Oct 2012

For 11 years I finally had enough and dropped them, they do not care a whit about any individual customer.....had three phones and they would rather lose a customer than give an inch on their "policies".

avebury

(10,952 posts)
10. Signed. K&R
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oct 2012

Having done through two cell phone contracts I refuse to get into a third contract. If I want a cell phone I will buy an expensive one that I can just put minutes on every month. I don't need a cell phone with every available gimmick and I don't need to send text messages. A cell phone is strictly a means to make a phone call if I am not at work or home. And I spend a lot less money in the process.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
26. You don't have to get a contract with any of the major providers - just pay full price for the phone
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:58 PM
Oct 2012

The contract gives you a discount on the full price of the phone. The rates are the same and without the contract you can stop using their service whenever you decide.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
30. I am way to cheap to pay a lot for a phone. A
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 01:18 PM
Oct 2012

$30 phone and a 200 minute phone card each month is plenty good enough for me. I am actually without a cell phone at the minute because I just don't need one. I only make local calls at home on a land line. Beyond that, there is the internet with email, Face Book, DU, etc. Friends and family are more likely to get me by email then any other way.

beac

(9,992 posts)
11. Credo Mobile will buy you out of your existing contract up to $350:
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:59 AM
Oct 2012
http://www.credomobile.com/lp/ext/progressive-phone-company.aspx?pc=400800&page=plan&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=b_brand&utm_content=yescbo_webprice&gclid=CKLcp7-l9LICFVSd4AodlEwAxQ

They also donate to progressive causes, unlike the other cell companies.

From their website:
CREDO FIGHTS THE RIGHT WING
AT&T and Verizon Wireless have given $885,000 and $156,100 respectively to House and Senate Tea Party Caucus members since 2009. CREDO is a different kind of cell phone company. We fight the right—with a network of 3 million activists and with millions of dollars raised annually for nonprofits like Planned Parenthood, Earthjustice, Democracy Now and the ACLU, to name a few.


Here's a list of their 2011 donations totaling $2,789,612: http://www.credomobile.com/mission/donations-report-current.aspx


Please note, I do not work for Credo, but I am a satisfied customer of many years.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
13. Yes, they did for me.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

Had to jump through a couple of (fairly easy) hoops, but once I did that they took the remaining cost of the contract off of my bill.

 

happerbolic

(140 posts)
17. I have credo too...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

... but just saying, They entirely use the sprint network. I don't know how if they are even allowed to buy out a sprint contract.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
29. Most telecom networks were built with tax payer subsidies
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 01:09 PM
Oct 2012

or as public private partnerships or using the government's power of eminent domain to acquire land. It's not "Sprint's network" any more than they are "NBC's airwaves".

ismnotwasm

(41,984 posts)
15. K&R
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:10 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:55 PM - Edit history (2)

A bit different topic, but my husband served on a jury on a domestic violence case a while back.

It's illegal here to prevent someone from a 911 call. The women, who was getting severely beat, tried to call 911, but the guy grabbed the phone and tossed it. So one of the charges against the man was interfering with a 911 call.

The jury-- except for my husband--decided the guy wasn't guilty of that because it couldn't be proven. My husband was pissed. He told he'd sit there for days and as far as he was concerned, finding a beaten woman's cell phone across the room on the floor was evidence enough, given the rest of the circumstances, for example the hole in the Sheetrock her head made when he threw her up against the wall

My husband prevailed, and the asshole was convicted on ALL counts.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
20. Thank you for sharing that.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:35 PM
Oct 2012

There need to be more men like your husband, who will stand with us and say "NO MORE."

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
19. And if the ex put the phone in your name you can't cancel it
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:26 PM
Oct 2012

but need to keep paying the bill. Women are treated like children. A ten year old boy was able to impersonate my ex and get the phone turned off. And I am a career woman. It was an eye-opening experience.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. If the ex 'put the phone in your name' then the contract is not valid. You have to sign for it to
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:54 PM
Oct 2012

be so--I imagine a wet-behind-the-ears lawyer could get someone out of that contract pretty easily.

If the phone was in the ex's name, and he signed the contract but was no longer living in the home, then HE is responsible for the bill. The thing to do is send the bill back to the phone company and say "No longer at this address" and provide the forwarding address.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
33. I wasn't behind on the bill
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:07 AM
Oct 2012

I just wanted to cancel the phone service. And they basically told me I would have to keep paying the bill with no option to turn it off unless the ex authorized it. I was quite upset at the time. I really raised hell about it, then asked the kid to impersonate the ex and they finally relented.

I am glad I didn't have to go to a lawyer. But I was mad enough to!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. See, I would have been a total shithead and said, well it ain't gettin' paid anymore
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:12 AM
Oct 2012

because the guy you say is "in charge" of this bill ain't living in this house--here's his forwarding address. You send the damn bill to him and he'll tell you where to stuff it, I'm quite sure!

If it's in his name, it's his game!

Then you call the phone company and get a phone in your OWN name. Or get a tracfone that no one can trace and be real careful about who you hand the number out to!

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
40. It's amazing how handy a man's voice can be on the phone.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:07 PM
Oct 2012

I was trying to get a price on a car from an out of state dealer because it had a hard to find option package. They WOULD NOT tell me the asking price over the phone, they wanted me to come look at it. Wouldn't even give me a ballpark figure.

Anyhow, I had my boyfriend call and the exact same person gave him the price immediately and without hesitation.

Needless to say I bought the car someplace else.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
25. Looking at some of the comments here, I see
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:57 PM
Oct 2012

a very strong case for women maintaining their social and financial independence in a marriage.

Start by not changing your last name. Then, keep your own credit cards in your name. Have your own separate checking accounts.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
27. AMEN - and make sure you can always pay ALL the bills by yourself.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 01:00 PM
Oct 2012

If there is a break-up, no need to move and look for cheaper accomodations because you based your living standard on dual incomes.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. This is customary in many other countries.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:19 AM
Oct 2012

When you have your own name, you control your own life.

Although I did have a friend years ago who hated her name (it was pretty awful--it sounded way too much like a personal body part) and she was thrilled to marry someone with a much more generic name and change hers out. She kept the name but not the husband!

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