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I'll be posting this up until the next debate simply because after Obama knocks the shit out of Romney, you'll come back and say, Wow trumad, you called that one.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)because I really want to be the first one to yell Hell Ya! when it happens and I'm convinced it's going to happen.
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)Bookmarked.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Obviously, Obama is a smart man and he knows the score. He knows what he has to do. I believe he will do his best and that we will see something very different from him, in the next two presidential debates. I also think the Biden/Ryan debate will also reflect the Obama campaign's new strategy going forward.
A concern--the Romney campaign knows this. They'll probably show up VERY non-confrontational, very personable and kind. They'll relate all kinds of personal stories and tales of "Oh I met Betty in Ohio who said this to me..." kinds of cutesy malarkey that will leave Biden and Obama unable to counter with the knockout punches that are needed.
Seriously. Romney's first debate strategy was to show up with a surprise strategy and discombobulate Obama and leave him unable to effectively respond. Of course, they'll try to do that again. Is the Obama campaign ready for that???? Romney knows that Obama will come out swinging now--so I imagine that their strategy will be to be syrupy, sweet nice--so Obama has nothing to swing at. It could get very frustrating and we have to anticipate it and counter it.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)President Obama is adept and can do both: counter the sweet-syrupy (for example, when Rmoney comes with another made-up Betty from Ohio, he's opening himself up for a redo as President Obama can counter with: and thanks to ObamaCare, Betty and her son can afford health insurance), and he can counter the same Rmoney he faced last Wednesday bu correcting him again and again and again until Rmoney loses it. The president has the truth and facts on his side and Rmoney has nothing but lies.
It's time the president rips off Romney's mask and shows the American people who Romney really is and what a threat he poses to us all - with a big, bright smile.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)So Obama should have been on the attack for a full half-hour.
The debate will obviously go down as one of the worst performances ever. Stop already.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)He started coming back the last 30 minutes.
I thought it was too late, by then, but that last 30 minutes fits into your rope-a-dope explanation.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)And that's why I mentioned each round. Any fighter who let himself be annihilated for a full hour would be KO'd, which is what the eventual verdict was.
mick063
(2,424 posts)Mitt moved to the center. Anxious moderates became relieved.
The debate "victory" has everything to do with Mitt moving left and nothing to do with his debating.skill.
How do you make him look extremist again?
Paul Ryan.
This is just too obvious. Replays of Mitt embracing the Ryan plan in the GOP primary debates is the best.campaign strategy. In addition, force Ryan to embrace Mitt's "new" liberal agenda and watch him squirm. Ryan is one heartbeat from the Presidency. Put a scare back in to the moderates.
This is the best path forward.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Obama always comes from behind, he's a long distance horse not a sprinter.
He did this during the Dem primaries too. Kind of quiet in the background for a while, almost invisible (at least to me I didn't know who he was but I also know a lot of people did know him and had their bets on him early on.)
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Obama succeeded in the 1st debate to the degree that he didn't fall into any of Romney's prepared traps that would have given the opportunity for Romney "zingers." He didn't take the bait when Romney offered the line about "your money is where your heart is." He didn't offer Romney the 47% opening. Etc.
Obama failed where he didn't respond to major Romney's lies about his record. I saw some response in the beginning. But he let Romney claim 5 times that he cut Medicare benefits by $700B, when in fact he cut payments to providers in the form of finding and ending fraud. 5 times.
The good news is he knows and admits he debated poorly and I expect he will do something about it. The other good news is he's got new Romney flip-flops to hold against him.
The first debate showed that strategies go as far as they go, but you have to be in the moment and prepared to deal with what is in front of you, not what you expected to be or wished would be in front of you.
Neither side's strategy played out as expected. Romney won because he came across as positive and energetic, even when Obama didn't take his bait. He didn't give it away. When the chips were down, that is what made him the winner. If Obama had energetically rebutted the key lies about his record, that in itself would have changed the outcome.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)And yup, I am happy to say you called it.