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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:52 PM Jan 2012

Due to ultra-Orthodox pressure, women barred from speaking at Isreali conference... on gynecology.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/worldview/in-jerusalem-women-are-voiceless-at-a-decidedly-womanly-event/article2297159/

In Jerusalem, women are voiceless at a decidedly womanly event
patrick martin
Jerusalem— Globe and Mail Update
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:21AM EST

The controversial exclusion of women from various settings in Israel because of pressure from ultra-Orthodox Jewish leaders reached a new level this week with a major conference on gynecological advances that is permitting only males to address the audience.

The conference on “Innovations in Gynecology/Obstetrics and Halacha [Jewish law]” is being held by the Puah Institute this Wednesday in Jerusalem. It will include such topics as “ovary implants,” “how to choose a suitable contraceptive pill” and “intimacy during rocket attacks,” in which there are many qualified female professionals, but none will be permitted to speak, at least not from the podium.

Women are allowed in the audience, in a section separate from men.

Several Israeli human rights groups have protested the men-only nature of the conference. While it is considered a private rather than a public forum, and therefore not subject to Israeli policies against discrimination, Puah receives considerable funding from the Health Ministry, these complainants point out.

Such complaints are unlikely to make much of an impression, however. The Health Minister, to whom they are addressed, is actually the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, owing to another sop to the Ultra-Orthodox.


Wow.

This is pants-on-head special. Every time I think that religious lunatics can't out-crazy themselves, they out-crazy themselves.
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Due to ultra-Orthodox pressure, women barred from speaking at Isreali conference... on gynecology. (Original Post) backscatter712 Jan 2012 OP
the fear of women is world wide Whisp Jan 2012 #1
I don't understand why women aren't protesting DevonRex Jan 2012 #9
fundies. barbtries Jan 2012 #2
No shit. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2012 #3
Although you have to give the Jews credit... izquierdista Jan 2012 #7
Mysogynism: The Great Religious Equalizer Doremus Jan 2012 #4
And we have a winner. PDJane Jan 2012 #5
This is ridiculous. However, I am intrigued by "Intimacy During Rocket Attacks". TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #16
This brought the Onion to mind LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #8
"Women are allowed in the audience, in a section separate from men" DesertRat Jan 2012 #10
Puah Institute is apparently named after a Hebrew midwife suffragette Jan 2012 #11
This reminds me of the extreme muslim riverbendviewgal Jan 2012 #12
Another view from another source ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #13
religions give legitimacy to insanity Quantess Jan 2012 #14
This is why we need China-style population control. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #15
I'll take "Things that are about to change for the better" for $600.00, Alex. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #17
Sandra Bernhardt once said, Louisiana1976 Jan 2012 #18
Is Israel going hyper conservative? Mimosa Jan 2012 #19
Actually this has taken a lot of flack in Israel ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #20
This is my head. This is my desk. Prophet 451 Jan 2012 #21

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
9. I don't understand why women aren't protesting
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jan 2012

in the streets. I guess I'll never understand orthodoxy.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
7. Although you have to give the Jews credit...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:14 PM
Jan 2012

They can go back in time to a much more primitive era than the other major religions. Is there an ultra-Orthodox prohibition about using metal as opposed to stone tools?

Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
8. This brought the Onion to mind
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

i kept the link because it made such a good point.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/renowned-hooha-doctor-wins-nobel-prize-for-medical,2692/

Renowned Hoo-Ha Doctor Wins Nobel Prize For Medical Advancements Down There

STOCKHOLM—In recognition of her groundbreaking work treating life- threatening diseases of the privates, renowned hoo-ha specialist Dr. Victoria Lazoff was awarded the Nobel Prize in Lady Medicine this week.

The world's foremost authority on ailments down south, Lazoff led a team of cutting-edge hoo-ha doctors to develop new strategies for detecting abnormal growth in...you know, that area. The accomplished physician humbly accepted medicine's highest honor before a crowd of her peers, and spoke about the importance of regular screenings to prevent unnecessary complications up inside one's business.

"Recent advancements have brought us closer than ever to eliminating this threat, but early detection is still our best defense," said Dr. Lazoff, who earned a doctorate in lady parts from Johns Hopkins University. "I thank you all for this great honor, which I hope will finally bring the world's attention to the serious matter of [hoo-ha] disease."

Attendees said Lazoff then presented a number of slides pertaining to the, uh, nether-type zone.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
10. "Women are allowed in the audience, in a section separate from men"
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jan 2012

How do they explain that a female OB/GYN, no matter how eminent she may be in her profession, is being considered a non-person by her colleagues?

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
11. Puah Institute is apparently named after a Hebrew midwife
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:30 PM
Jan 2012

so the organization doing this is blocking female medical practitioners from speaking while being named after a female medical practitioner itself. As the article notes, ironic.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/worldview/in-jerusalem-women-are-voiceless-at-a-decidedly-womanly-event/article2297159/

Puah – ironically named for one of the ancient Hebrew midwives believed to have refused the pharaoh’s order to kill all male babies in Egypt at the time of Moses – has held many other conferences with male-only speakers. But this one comes on the heels of several other incidents in which women, or their images, have been excluded from public places under pressure from ultra-Orthodox leaders and their enforcement squads.


ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
13. Another view from another source
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:56 PM
Jan 2012

[quote]For the past 12 years the Puah Institute has hosted an annual conference on Innovations in Medicine. At first, the conference was geared towards rabbinic authorities so they could integrate these advances into Jewish law (halacha). The first conferences took place in a synagogue, and therefore only rabbis and male doctors spoke.[/quote]

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=253064
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It is quite properly in the Op-Ed section by the head of the Puah Institute and gives some of the history of the conference...helping their fundies deal with modern gynecology and obstetrics.

It is also interesting to note the flack that it seems to have taken in Israel.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
15. This is why we need China-style population control.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jan 2012

Otherwise the religious nuts will outbreed the sane people

Mimosa

(9,131 posts)
19. Is Israel going hyper conservative?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jan 2012

There was a time when we thought of Israel as a more progressive democracy. Now we read about the religious nuts gaining more power.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
20. Actually this has taken a lot of flack in Israel
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:25 PM
Jan 2012

The annual conference was intended to educate the fundie rabbis about modern gynecology and obstetrics, which is why it follows the strict rules.

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