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Mitt Romney leads president Obama 47 percent to 45 percent among likely voters in a new poll sponsored by Investors Business Daily. Romney's numbers were buoyed by support from men and independents, according to the poll.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ibd-tipp-poll-romney-leads-obama-by-2
Good grief! Why on earth is TPM hyping a poll by a wingnut site that's to the right of Newsmax?
Via Media Matters:
http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/03/17/siegel-uses-not-scientific-ibdtipp-poll-to-prop/161803
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The whore (R)as is no where near this biased with polling.
Godless in Seattle
(120 posts)Screw the rest!
cali
(114,904 posts)in other words, any polls that you deem negative.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I call them as I see em. When they're bullshit, they're bullshit.
chew on these while you're holding yourself on high about your opinions and having a sad that people aren't panicking.
Here's a good chart from Gallup:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021500961
Nate Silver: A Great Poll for Romney, in Perspective
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021499616
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Like the one in my reply title for example.
CheapShotArtist
(333 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)I saw had him up by +13 and +17 (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/il/illinois_romney_vs_obama-2955.html )
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100512-628435-polls-show-obama-could-lose-illinois.htm?p=full
I'm not going to post anything the article said because it is such bullshit. But basically it is talking about the difference between the cities and the suburbs. But if that made a difference it would have made a difference in the last election and it didn't. You are right that this group has an agenda, a very clear agenda for the GOP.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Conservative Southern states asked, was biased, showing a huge bump for Romney, making me wonder why they bothered to post their methodology when it destroyed the poll results:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021496747
Then we have grantcart's excellent research on Gravis Marketing showing Nate and other websites had been punked. I never heard of Nate Silver until this year, have wondered:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021489250
I don't believe any of the polls from the networks, period, as they are GOP owned and are against Obama and Democrats every day of the week, so why would I believe their poll numbers?
And I've been 'push polled' before with loaded questions and if I didn't answer the way they wanted, they hung up on me. Those are not representative samples, those are results that are cudgeled together by conservative PACs using paid callers to get a defined result.
The problem with the polls, just like internet search results, which conservative groups pay people to skew, is that policy makers often make decisions based on these things, as if they are votes being cast between elections. They are not, they are all con jobs.
I'm not sure why we are going poll crazy at DU right now, since they are not credible. A poster wrote, the only poll that matters is what the electoral college numbers are on Election night:
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10021493970
I understand we are having a bad news cycle with the media not calling down lightning on the GOP for their cesspool of lies. Even admitting that they are lying, nothing is being done and they won't discuss Obama's ideas at all on the media.
I see here and elsewhere claims that Obama is not sticking up for his ideas or saying what he's done. This is willful ignorance as he's said it on every campaign stump speech. I guess some won't look at an Obama video or read the transcripts of the DNC convention and other talks he's given daily this year, only look at the media sources.
The mainstream narrative belongs to the GOP. It doesn't make it true or good, that's the flood of BS we are trying to mop out of the stables. I'm hating these poll threads, they are taking up a lot of the board. The polls are not going to tell us the truth of what our fellow Americans think. I thought Pew and the Wall Street Journal polls were best run, now I'll never believe another Pew poll, and WSJ is GOP owned, too.