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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:57 PM Oct 2012

Ryan's Latest Hateburger: ‘Inner City’ People Need To Be Taught ‘Good Discipline, Good Character’

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-inner-city-people-need-to-be-taught-good-discipline-good-character/

Paul Ryan: ‘Inner City’ People Need To Be Taught ‘Good Discipline, Good Character’

Republican vice-presidential hopeful Paul Ryan made a bit of news when he abruptly cut short an interview with a local reporter in Michigan, but the hissy manner in which he ended the chat seems to have buried the ugly substance of what he said while trying to evade questions about gun control and his tax plan. Asked whether this country has a gun problem, Ryan responded that that it’s a “crime problem,” and volunteered that “The best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities. Is to help teach people good discipline, good character.”

There’s a lot wrong with what Ryan said while trying to avoid questions about gun control, from hiding behind President Obama (“I don’t even think President Obama’s proposing more gun laws.”) to his apparent lack of concern over gun suicides (which make up the majority of gun deaths in the U.S.) or accidental child killings. However, these are fairly commonplace facets of conservative gun arguments.

What you don’t often hear spoken (out loud, anyway) is that the real problem with gun violence in America is the “character” and “discipline” of people in the “inner cities,” a very specific delineation from other city folk. Obviously, if you shoot someone to death, there’s a good chance you have a major character flaw or two, but what about all the “inner city” people who are doing the dying? Did they lack the “character” or “discipline” to dodge a bullet? Are rural or suburban murderers and victims more virtuous?

Apparently so. Apparently, crime in our cities has nothing to do with poverty, and systemic failures, fueled by generations of institutionalized racism, but with the character of those people. So says Paul Ryan, and so says Mitt Romney. If you’re poor, it’s because your culture is inferior.

Ryan’s assessment of “inner city” people is of a piece with the not-at-all subtle (and even out-and-proud overt) attitudes of the leading lights in the Republican Party, best exemplified by racism decoder-ring Newt Gingrich, who helpfully singled out black people as the Food Stamp-satisfied people we already knew they were talking about, and who echoed Ryan’s chatter about the low character of the inner city denizens who “have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash,’ unless it’s illegal.”
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Ryan's Latest Hateburger: ‘Inner City’ People Need To Be Taught ‘Good Discipline, Good Character’ (Original Post) trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
Who's into class warfare? This arrogant little prick needs a lesson in sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #1
The pompous arrogance of this weenie knows no bounds. lpbk2713 Oct 2012 #2
Who's gonna teach all the "character and discipline"....? Bigmack Oct 2012 #3
Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora Colorado were not in the "inner city" nor KurtNYC Oct 2012 #4
Of all people to be talking about "Character" Bandit Oct 2012 #5
Born in 1971, grew up thinking Reagan was God BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #6
I know you have the right to vote for who you want, but this dog-whistle racist statement is oviedodem Oct 2012 #7
Because some of them are either affluent enough to not care, CheapShotArtist Oct 2012 #8
+ 1 uponit7771 Oct 2012 #11
Does anyone seriously think that asshole has ever been in an inner-city neighborhood? HopeHoops Oct 2012 #9
so they are more like Ryan/Rmoney? EC Oct 2012 #10
You know.."To lie like me!". Aaaand another projection from ryan. nt chowder66 Oct 2012 #12
This klown should be dropped in Harlem or hifiguy Oct 2012 #13
Not-so-subtle racist and classist dog whistle meow2u3 Oct 2012 #14
almost as bad as 'those people' trailmonkee Oct 2012 #15
Ryan has an extremely puerile mind. He speaks with insufficient knowledge and experience. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #16
asshole, heal thy self arely staircase Oct 2012 #17
Need to tame the savages, teach them the white man's way. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #18

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
2. The pompous arrogance of this weenie knows no bounds.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
Oct 2012



But let him keep on with comments like this ... he's building his own gallows.


 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
3. Who's gonna teach all the "character and discipline"....?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
Oct 2012

... the Government...? I thought you were against government, asshole.

The Churches....? You mean like they teach the altar boys...?

The Boy Scouts...? Let's not even go there.

Maybe you will teach all that stuff, Ryan... personally.

I look forward to your announcement that you are leaving public life and going on a crusade to teach manners and character to the inner cities.

I don't think they'll even find your body.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
4. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora Colorado were not in the "inner city" nor
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:11 PM
Oct 2012

were they done by "inner city" (we all know what he means) people.

Here is the whole list:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9414540/A-history-of-mass-shootings-in-the-US-since-Columbine.html

Lots of churches, students and white males but not ONE inner city mass shooting on the list.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
5. Of all people to be talking about "Character"
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
Oct 2012

When you LIE pretty much most of the time it speaks of one's Character

 

oviedodem

(1,824 posts)
7. I know you have the right to vote for who you want, but this dog-whistle racist statement is
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

why I have never understood why minorities vote for republicans. It just does not make sense to me.

CheapShotArtist

(333 posts)
8. Because some of them are either affluent enough to not care,
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
Oct 2012

or they don't understand the offensiveness of the dog whistles, and may believe those comments are acceptable as long as they're not overt.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
9. Does anyone seriously think that asshole has ever been in an inner-city neighborhood?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:22 PM
Oct 2012

I have many times. I've done handyman work in the most dilapidated parts of the city, and that's not the only one I've been in that environment in. Yes, crime is high and there's the minute-by-minute possibility of being murdered in some places, but I always preferred that work to the hoitie-toitie 3-car garage neighborhoods (some had 4-car garages). He doesn't have a fucking clue what people without means have to deal with to survive. I tailored my labor rates to account for that. He wouldn't.

My wife's first teaching job ('85) was in rural SC. I went with her on home visits (not required, her decision) and it was a serious eye opener. One of my professors gave me a carload of toys to take down to the kids. At one stop, we entered a two, maybe three-room shanty with one light bulb (hanging from the ceiling by its cord), and a 13" or so B&W TV connected to a socket plug coming out of the light bulb. They were snapping beans and wanted to give us half of their crop. We politely refused, but talk about generosity!!! They knew damn well we were better off than they were, but that didn't matter.

rMoney and rLyan don't have a fucking clue what REAL people have to go through to survive. And no, there's no cake to eat.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. This klown should be dropped in Harlem or
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:38 PM
Oct 2012

South Central LA or some other tough "inner city" neighborhood with two bucks in his pocket. Wonder how his horseshit would go over there. Not well, I suspect.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
14. Not-so-subtle racist and classist dog whistle
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:45 PM
Oct 2012

This is what rAyn really is thinking: s**cs, n****rs, are lazy and need to be hauled off to prison and tortured, starved, and demoralized to keep them in their place.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
17. asshole, heal thy self
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

a lesson on good character from someone who wants to deny the elderly and disabled access to healthcare is a beautiful, pristine example of the republican frame of mindset.

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